Ratzkifal wrote: »

The reason Kwama don't count as "chitinous creatures" is because they are already considered "insectoid", which is silly as insects have carapaces made of chitin.

That makes me wonder if Guars are considered reptiles or bird-like (like the dinosaurs).

ZOS needs a zoologist on their team.

Honestly with the way they label these things and what they obviously are. It seems like they went the most easiest route and gave every creature in the game 1 label and left it at that. Even though they obviously don't all fall into just 1 category. And because of the fact that their definitions of what is and isnt something is so vague. Its going to be a headache every time someone new discovers how lazy the labeling system is for Endeavors.

I completed this endeavour within seconds of engaging an abyssal geyser.

The person at ZOS who put these "kill x of y-creature" endevors together is not very good at biology, unfortunately. Not only wasps, kwama etc. don't count as "chitinous" (even while droping chitin within the game LOL). There was also endevor asking us to kill "lizzards" and Death Hoppers got counted towards it despite being quite obviously amphibian. If they are not going to follow reality (or common sense) with these, there should be list of enemies which count in endevor's description.

Ratzkifal wrote: »

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

It's because ESO ruined kwama (especially scribs) and turned them into gross arachnids.

I'll never forgive ZOS for what they did to my little chitinous bois

Arachnids are also chitinous bois. Crabs are arachnids after all.

The lables for these endeavors are very very unclear. All sorts of enemies are not considered "Beasts" either. Only mammals, however Trolls which look like mammals are not considered beasts. I would argue any dangerous animal is a beast.

Crabs are not arachnids but crustaceans, just FYI. They are all (insects, arachnids, crustaceans, and more) arthropods which all share many features, including an exoskeleton and chitinous cuticle.
(Edit: I was too quick to correct! I am glad that others caught this too and that I’m not the only one who cares about these distinctions!)

Of course that’s Earth’s creatures and I’m okay with Tamriel’s being different! In fact, it’s better if they are, not that we need the theoretical biology of all of them, but giant arthropods would need a completely different body plan for support, movement, circulation and oxygenation, etc. — or it could be magic.
(Edit: But as others have pointed out, as long as you’re using the Earth terminology, yes, the discrepancies can be confusing! Are draugr crustaceans? Maybe the term “chitinous creatures” should be changed to “crustaceans.”)

Now when Mirri told me that as far as she was concerned, ALL snakes were poisonous, in my mind I told her, “Well, then just don’t eat them. Now if we come upon a venomous snake, then we’ll have to be careful not to be bitten.”

Mirri glowers and rapport goes down.

But as for kwama, they’ve always seemed insectoid to me, including in ESO, rather like a bee or ant colony. I empathize with not liking how something was changed although some changes in the kwama don’t bother me personally, perhaps because it’s been too long since I played TES III…

But don’t dis my lovely spiders! There really is nothing gross about them, not in reality anyway. They are very clean and very very few wouldn’t much rather run and hide than bite you! Spiders are beautiful misunderstood creatures.

I think these should count (though not 100% certain: mudcrabs, duneracer, dreugh, chaurus, queen of the reef? On the other hand beetles, assassin beatles, kwamma don't seem to count. Not sure about scorpions or nix-hounds.

mbeetley_ESO wrote: »

Just had an amusing discovery in this regard. There's the achievement "Chitin Accumulator" for collecting "trophies from all the chitinous creatures of Tamriel." Now, I just got the achievement because I killed a thunderbug and it dropped the razor-edged mandible, the last one I needed. So, is the thunderbug chitinous? According to the achievement, yes; according to today's endeavor to kill 10 chitinous creatures, no.

Your user name has "beetle" in it. Things that make you go "Hmmm"!

Haha, thread gets refreshed each time this endeavor comes up. Any more, I go to Soulshriven wayshrine in Stormhaven and work north toward the WB at Dreugh Waters. Short distance, but by the time I get to the WB I've killed a dozen dreughs.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

I know it was like a week ago but just to inform y'all this is still not fixed

And it's not likely to get fixed. Every enemy seems to get just one category label applied to it, even if there are multiple ones that would seem to apply (like "insect" and "chitinous"; or "humanoid" or "vampire" or "undead" or... etc). So some enemies will count for one, but not the other. It's just the way it is.

Update: ZOS still has not fixed this for our little eggy bois

DP99 wrote: »

I tried kwarma and those fiery versions of thunderbugs, I forget what they’re called

I call them...INCINERATION BEETLES!!!!!

Carcamongus wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Update: ZOS still has not fixed this for our little eggy bois

They consider frogs and salamanders as reptiles... If it's that bad, to expect justice for the chitin crew is too much!

Sure. But maybe that's how it is in Nirn...meanwhile Kwama are low-key one of the most important creatures in lore with several of their mines in the game. And they are harvested for stuff like their eggs and chitin. So not including them is a bit like including Dragons as reptiles while you have a category for killing shouting foes where dragons didn't count. Dragons shouts are iconic.

Sorry to post this late, but last time this was the endeavor it still didn't count.