You could just buy them on guild traders.

The whole point of PVP in Imperial City is the risk of losing Tel Var. That should never go away. It isn't supposed to be easy. You just have to get better at PVP. Or buy them from Guild Traders.

@jaws343 is correct. It is a PvP zone and Tel Var is the driving factor for PvP there.

Having virtually zero counterplay is probably related to the build being used. Going into IC with a PvE guild is probably asking to get killed. Especially the lower health is a red *** that the person is easy to kill and probably carrying a lot of Tel Var.

I farm telvar for Hakeijo with my PVE build. I stay in the sewers, run out to the middle, kill everything, then run or port back. 3-5k per run.

I see so few players in the sewers that ganking PVE players must be a boring life.

BlossomDead wrote: »

Maybe I'm unlucky but for the past two days I have been ganked quite a lot. I also have decent HP (25k) and I'm decked in medium armor, however everyone seems to just be shredding through it.

Investing more time into getting PVP gear (which is fairly expensive) to only farm some runes it's overkill IMHO.

I’ve been killed a couple times by a group of three players that I’m pretty sure was farming bosses when they ran into me. Other than that, it’s been pretty quiet. I avoid the weekends and I don’t go upstairs unless I’m farming skyshards.

NerfSeige wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

BlossomDead wrote: »

56k gold for a rune is too expensive. The whole experience to get them is just abhorrently difficult.

So don't buy a gold rune.. just buy the hakeijo and make your own rune.

You basically want to earn these for free without taking any of the risks associated with earning them. It's nonsense.

You misunderstood, it’s the hakeijo that’s like 40-50k++ on pc anyway.

But they are right OP, if you can’t like do at least 5k telvar per run you either have to git gud or if not it’s easier to farm mats, motifs, furnishing, stealing to sell for gold and buy the rune from that.


But if you can get good telvar and just being killed when going home, sneak, just queue to cyrodiil, then queue back to imperial city.

Yeah, I misread that, and it's only like 15K or so on Xbox. But there is also more gold on PC, so even if the price is "high" it is still relative to the gold available.

BlossomDead wrote: »

How is there more gold on PC? There is gold for people who have it, I don't farm gold.

I usually get 5k and then port back using the stone. But I lose 3-5 time the amount to do that.

I do farm upstairs as well and try to keep a low profile.

Ridiculously cumbersome.

And I say have pointed out already: they could also move them into regular nodes. Another option would be lowering their Tel Var cost too. 5k a pop is fairly expensive.

There have been countless threads explaining why prices on PC are much higher than prices on console. No real need to rehash that here.

BlossomDead wrote: »

They are too expensieve for what they are IMHO, so I prefer to farm them myself. The loss is just huge.

The price for Tel Var goods is regulated by supply and demand. Please give PvPers their due.

Needs a refresh.

Because one person hates both farming or paying the gold? Hardly.

BlossomDead wrote: »

I'm trying to farm 15k more Tel Var to buy 3 Hakeijo runes in IC and it's been an absolutely horrid experience so far farming the first 4 I required. I need to put in three times the amount of time I would need to because people farm you rather than mobs and it's usually a nightblade that stuns you to death with virtually 0 counterplay. This also for some reason bugs out my ultimate (DK - Take Flight) so I need to log-out and log in back again. It is extremely frustrating.

It would be, if you're not a PvPer and you hate PvP, so you don't want to learn. Kind of the same as me not wanting to learn veteran trials or do writs on multiple characters every day to gold out trial jewelry. Not wanting to PvP is totally valid, but you don't get to ruin the unique dynamics of IC, which many of us like, because of it.

The game has a healthy trading system so you need only play the content you want to play. Playing buggy af New World really drove this home to me. At least the economy in ESO is functioning. Use it! The game is huge. You don't have to do everything.

As to nightblades having near-zero counterplay, this is only true if you are a beginner. That said, Leap not functioning is unfortunate, a long-standing bug in IC and other content that has protected platforms. Don't use Leap on or possibly while pointing at those platforms, because then the game thinks you're doing something illegal and disables it (all gap closers, I think). You don't have to log out. You can just unslot and reslot the skill. It is frustrating, though. Be prepared to use your second ultimate, such as Corrosive Armor, instead.

Making good Tel Var is pretty "seasonal". Few people carry much. A few thousand at most. You don't get that many from killing players. Although there is (some) safety in numbers you won't get much from going with a big boss farming group either. What you really want is to lead a boss into a building and solo it while having 1K Tel Var already and most of the flags are owned by your faction. Then you crouch, queue for a Cyro campaign, port back to IC (you'll land in the base) and bank. This is the "seasonal" part. You'll only take a lot of Tel Var out of IC, if you're there often and you like it. Get Miat's addon (on PC) to permanently display the status of the flags. The ideal time to try and segregate a boss is when your faction is busy taking the last one or two flags and you leapfrog their subsequent farming. Selfish, but if you need Tel Var in a hurry...

The easiest way to keep your Tel Var is arguably by playing a cloaking nightblade yourself and avoid unnecessary or unwanted fighting. Magicka nightblade with good cloak sustain is ideal, because cloak sheds aggro from NPCs and hides you from players more effectively than crouch. Still requires experience, but as a long-time resident of IC I switched from a stam DK to a magblade long ago for exactly this reason. Nowadays I play multiple classes, but if I just want to bring Tel Var home, I take the magblade. There are probably some other options, such as sorcs or being a stage 4 vamp for the sprint passive. A plain old DK, though, can be cornered by an enemy group or, if not killed, then continuously griefed by a single enemy player.

BlossomDead wrote: »

fred4 wrote: »

BlossomDead wrote: »

They are too expensieve for what they are IMHO, so I prefer to farm them myself. The loss is just huge.

The price for Tel Var goods is regulated by supply and demand. Please give PvPers their due.

Needs a refresh.

Because one person hates both farming or paying the gold? Hardly.

BlossomDead wrote: »

I'm trying to farm 15k more Tel Var to buy 3 Hakeijo runes in IC and it's been an absolutely horrid experience so far farming the first 4 I required. I need to put in three times the amount of time I would need to because people farm you rather than mobs and it's usually a nightblade that stuns you to death with virtually 0 counterplay. This also for some reason bugs out my ultimate (DK - Take Flight) so I need to log-out and log in back again. It is extremely frustrating.

It would be, if you're not a PvPer and you hate PvP, so you don't want to learn. Kind of the same as me not wanting to learn veteran trials or do writs on multiple characters every day to gold out trial jewelry. Not wanting to PvP is totally valid, but you don't get to ruin the unique dynamics of IC, which many of us like, because of it.

The game has a healthy trading system so you need only play the content you want to play. Playing buggy af New World really drove this home to me. At least the economy in ESO is functioning. Use it! The game is huge. You don't have to do everything.

As to nightblades having near-zero counterplay, this is only true if you are a beginner. That said, Leap not functioning is unfortunate, a long-standing bug in IC and other content that has protected platforms. Don't use Leap on or possibly while pointing at those platforms, because then the game thinks you're doing something illegal and disables it (all gap closers, I think). You don't have to log out. You can just unslot and reslot the skill. It is frustrating, though. Be prepared to use your second ultimate, such as Corrosive Armor, instead.

Making good Tel Var is pretty "seasonal". Few people carry much. A few thousand at most. You don't get that many from killing players. Although there is (some) safety in numbers you won't get much from going with a big boss farming group either. What you really want is to lead a boss into a building and solo it while having 1K Tel Var already and most of the flags are owned by your faction. Then you crouch, queue for a Cyro campaign, port back to IC (you'll land in the base) and bank. This is the "seasonal" part. You'll only take a lot of Tel Var out of IC, if you're there often and you like it. Get Miat's addon (on PC) to permanently display the status of the flags. The ideal time to try and segregate a boss is when your faction is busy taking the last one or two flags and you leapfrog their subsequent farming. Selfish, but if you need Tel Var in a hurry...

The easiest way to keep your Tel Var is arguably by playing a cloaking nightblade yourself and avoid unnecessary or unwanted fighting. Magicka nightblade with good cloak sustain is ideal, because cloak sheds aggro from NPCs and hides you from players more effectively than crouch. Still requires experience, but as a long-time resident of IC I switched from a stam DK to a magblade long ago for exactly this reason. Nowadays I play multiple classes, but if I just want to bring Tel Var home, I take the magblade. There are probably some other options, such as sorcs or being a stage 4 vamp for the sprint passive. A plain old DK, though, can be cornered by an enemy group or, if not killed, then continuously griefed by a single enemy player.

Thanks, I do not hate PVP, but it just seems a bit too taxing for me. Losing half of your Tel Var upon death.

I am leveling up a NB, but as with things in MMOs, slowly coming up.

Wasn;t aware I can store Tel Var in my bank and this makes things easier.

If you are on PC EU @BlossomDead , I could give you a few tips about pvp. It is super fun when you get into it more 😉

BlossomDead wrote: »

fred4 wrote: »

BlossomDead wrote: »

They are too expensieve for what they are IMHO, so I prefer to farm them myself. The loss is just huge.

The price for Tel Var goods is regulated by supply and demand. Please give PvPers their due.

Needs a refresh.

Because one person hates both farming or paying the gold? Hardly.

BlossomDead wrote: »

I'm trying to farm 15k more Tel Var to buy 3 Hakeijo runes in IC and it's been an absolutely horrid experience so far farming the first 4 I required. I need to put in three times the amount of time I would need to because people farm you rather than mobs and it's usually a nightblade that stuns you to death with virtually 0 counterplay. This also for some reason bugs out my ultimate (DK - Take Flight) so I need to log-out and log in back again. It is extremely frustrating.

It would be, if you're not a PvPer and you hate PvP, so you don't want to learn. Kind of the same as me not wanting to learn veteran trials or do writs on multiple characters every day to gold out trial jewelry. Not wanting to PvP is totally valid, but you don't get to ruin the unique dynamics of IC, which many of us like, because of it.

The game has a healthy trading system so you need only play the content you want to play. Playing buggy af New World really drove this home to me. At least the economy in ESO is functioning. Use it! The game is huge. You don't have to do everything.

As to nightblades having near-zero counterplay, this is only true if you are a beginner. That said, Leap not functioning is unfortunate, a long-standing bug in IC and other content that has protected platforms. Don't use Leap on or possibly while pointing at those platforms, because then the game thinks you're doing something illegal and disables it (all gap closers, I think). You don't have to log out. You can just unslot and reslot the skill. It is frustrating, though. Be prepared to use your second ultimate, such as Corrosive Armor, instead.

Making good Tel Var is pretty "seasonal". Few people carry much. A few thousand at most. You don't get that many from killing players. Although there is (some) safety in numbers you won't get much from going with a big boss farming group either. What you really want is to lead a boss into a building and solo it while having 1K Tel Var already and most of the flags are owned by your faction. Then you crouch, queue for a Cyro campaign, port back to IC (you'll land in the base) and bank. This is the "seasonal" part. You'll only take a lot of Tel Var out of IC, if you're there often and you like it. Get Miat's addon (on PC) to permanently display the status of the flags. The ideal time to try and segregate a boss is when your faction is busy taking the last one or two flags and you leapfrog their subsequent farming. Selfish, but if you need Tel Var in a hurry...

The easiest way to keep your Tel Var is arguably by playing a cloaking nightblade yourself and avoid unnecessary or unwanted fighting. Magicka nightblade with good cloak sustain is ideal, because cloak sheds aggro from NPCs and hides you from players more effectively than crouch. Still requires experience, but as a long-time resident of IC I switched from a stam DK to a magblade long ago for exactly this reason. Nowadays I play multiple classes, but if I just want to bring Tel Var home, I take the magblade. There are probably some other options, such as sorcs or being a stage 4 vamp for the sprint passive. A plain old DK, though, can be cornered by an enemy group or, if not killed, then continuously griefed by a single enemy player.

Thanks, I do not hate PVP, but it just seems a bit too taxing for me. Losing half of your Tel Var upon death.

I am leveling up a NB, but as with things in MMOs, slowly coming up.

Wasn;t aware I can store Tel Var in my bank and this makes things easier.

@BlossomDead don't hate the system, strive to understand it. I think you've sussed that you can bank them now which helps..

TelVar loss used to be way higher to players they changed it to equal mobs and player kills and actually the risk reward of losing 80% to a PvP ki used to a buzz. If the risk was removed the zone would be dead.

You don't need a PvP setup persay. Take a high DPS PvE setup. You can earn 14k in ONE KILL.

You need to clear the zone flags to increase the TV haul, then carry enough to have a good multiplier. Ideally 10k for 4 X

If you then solo a zone boss you can get up to 14k..

If that's a challenge pair up with a mate, you'll only get 6/7k each but still it really won't take long.

A high DPS PvE setup, when Imperial City is quiet and you can clear the full circle in 30-40mins and earn 3 figures worth.

What platform / region are you? I'm happy to help. Or just send you the hakeiejo if you are Xbox EU as I have a load .

@BlossomDead