Main issue I see is is then to activate it.
Is you required to do all the quests in the game for it?
Or perhaps Caldvell's gold?

I say make an new character, by the time you have done all the zones in you main faction you should be pretty fleshed out in skill points I believe. Extra characters are always nice for everything from storage, events and farming.

With new chapters added every year I haven't felt it necessary to redo the zones but would be open to it being an option.

zaria wrote: »

Main issue I see is is then to activate it.
Is you required to do all the quests in the game for it?
Or perhaps Caldvell's gold?

I say make an new character, by the time you have done all the zones in you main faction you should be pretty fleshed out in skill points I believe. Extra characters are always nice for everything from storage, events and farming.

Caldwell gold reward is ability to reset everything at the adamantine tower would be awesome. I'm a main only guy so I would love this as a way to grind CP. I Would even be prepared to pay a small amount of crowns for it.

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

I don’t understand. You’re given 18 possible character slots, half of which are unlocked already. The developers have gone on record saying that players, including themselves, have on average 2 to 3 characters they play with.

CP carries over between characters. Gear is transferable between characters. Gear can be crafted, banked, and sent to new characters. The game world in no case changes from what it is: CP160 enemies to which your stats are scaled to match until you yourself hit CP160

For what reason would redesigning an entire game for a New Game+ option be a sound financial or practical idea when you can create a new character and blow through the material?

There will not be an increased difficulty option. The developers have also gone on record saying that doing so fractures instances and the group play dynamic and isn’t in their interest. That veteran overland isn’t coming back has also been stated.

I see no reason for a New Game+ on the same characters. Please provide sound reasoning for such taking into account what the developers have gone on record about and what you can currently do in game.

For people that don't play alts. I've played x thousands of hours on my main, I love playing my main, last thing i want to to switch to is an alt. Alts is a thing that has really grown since WOW as a way to replicate content (and for those that like playing different chars ofc)

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

Wouldn't this just create lvl 10 characters in Cyrodiil with all passives and skill lines? That place has enough problems as it is.

I think the idea is that it would reset your quest triggers, not your level or gear or skills.
The alternative would be that it resets everything except skyshards, mount training and inventory space upgrades, and research which would basically be like starting a new character without the time gates.

Neither of those options would create balance issues (they probably have a host of technical implementation issues, though).

"Some might say, "just create a new character", but do you know how much GRIND there is to adding a new character?!? Increasing your mount stats, skyshards, skill lines, etc... which is NOT fun and not what I want to do again. I just want to replay the quests from the beginning, not have to re-level a new character again."

If the story is what you want none of the stuff other than maybe mount stats matter. I purchased a 2nd account so I could do all the stories in the same order my first character did on my main account. I couldn't use a character on my main because they had all done quests here and there all out of whack. Also didn't want to delete one. I could have gone to the EU server I guess but caught the game on sale.
THe only thing I helped my 2nd account with is gold to purchase inventory. Everything else I get while doing the story. I wear the gear I find and get the shards as I get in the area. So far I've had zero problem doing any of the story. I do need help with world bosses if I want to finish those before leaving a zone. Just concentrate on the story and there is no grind. All the other stuff just kind of happens.

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

Wouldn't this just create lvl 10 characters in Cyrodiil with all passives and skill lines? That place has enough problems as it is.

I think the idea is that it would reset your quest triggers, not your level or gear or skills.
The alternative would be that it resets everything except skyshards, mount training and inventory space upgrades, and research which would basically be like starting a new character without the time gates.

Neither of those options would create balance issues (they probably have a host of technical implementation issues, though).

yeah i would imagine the regression impact would be horrendous and not worth the cost and risk.

We were kicking around this idea in Discord and thought it would be fun if after completing Caldwell Gold he asks would you like to see what would have happened if you had washed ashore on [silver starter zone] first. If you say yes you end up in the starter zone for what was your silver. The discussion went from there to would that just reset the quests or would it reset everything related to those zones. Everyone agreed they wanted to keep their mounts leveled. Some suggested you would need to find skyshards again for skill points but once you invested them in the skills they would be leveled as before. That way you don't have to grind Undaunted again just because you want to do the story. The option to talk to Caldwell would need to be there beyond when you finish gold. If they were to do something like this however they do it Caldwell should be the one to initiate it.
Doesn't give a way to do the DLC quests again though.

I haven't minded doing it on a new account. Has been fun and I am taking my time looking through the entire zone just like I haven't been there before. Have found some stuff I'd forgotten about.

So where does the Plus come in?

Ususally New Game+ is harder. Not my first choice, but if they can find no other way to introduce harder solo content, I'll take it.

Faulgor wrote: »

So where does the Plus come in?

Ususally New Game+ is harder. Not my first choice, but if they can find no other way to introduce harder solo content, I'll take it.

I've never known NG+ to be harder. It's usually just an option to replay the game but keep all your stats, gear, and other progression that you've acquired. In FFXIV, it is actually like having a 'story book', in that you can switch back and forth between 'current story' and 'past story'. So you can go back and re-play past story arcs with all your current progression, and at any point, can switch back to 'current story' mode. I thought it was a pretty cool concept.

In most single player games, it's simply about replaying the game with all your previous progression... so you can play the game over but with all your awesome accessories, abilities, skill points, etc. In fact, NG+ typically makes you super OP in additional playthroughs... so exactly the opposite of what you described.

ADarklore wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

So where does the Plus come in?

Ususally New Game+ is harder. Not my first choice, but if they can find no other way to introduce harder solo content, I'll take it.

I've never known NG+ to be harder. It's usually just an option to replay the game but keep all your stats, gear, and other progression that you've acquired. In FFXIV, it is actually like having a 'story book', in that you can switch back and forth between 'current story' and 'past story'. So you can go back and re-play past story arcs with all your current progression, and at any point, can switch back to 'current story' mode. I thought it was a pretty cool concept.

In most single player games, it's simply about replaying the game with all your previous progression... so you can play the game over but with all your awesome accessories, abilities, skill points, etc. In fact, NG+ typically makes you super OP in additional playthroughs... so exactly the opposite of what you described.

Eh, there's a bunch of games where the NG+ is harder (Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Witcher 3, Arkham Knight, etc), and then there are the selectable-difficulty games where NG+ opens up harder options for you to pick (but you can still pick the easier ones).

And then, of course, there's the games that aren't really "new game plus", but just have you play through things again on increasing difficulty in order to "progress": Diablo-likes, Borderlands, and similar.


But, yeah - in general, I've always assumed NG+ to be a higher difficulty mode (to make up for the fact you have all the unlockable weapons/skills/etc). It doesn't really make sense in endless/live-service games like MMOs.

Here's the thing about new game plus on FFXIV which I also play. It just lets you redo the story as say a different job. Same difficulty, it makes it so you don't have to create an alt where that game sort of frowns (why make an alt when your character can be every job)