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How is the new Carve?

Zefyron
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I haven't played in a long while, noticed that the Carve morph of Cleave now has the base shield and the bleed stacks 3 times. How viable is it now in PvE dps situations?
  • Jaimeh
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    It's a strong DOT, and the shield is nice (though it is noticeably wealer than brawler, so if you are used to brawler+yolo, it's not the same thing :)), therefore it's a must in a 2h rotation. However, since it's a DOT, you can't use it as a spammable, so if you had the brawler morph before and spammed it, you have to add a spammable skill now too.
  • Syrpynt
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    Zefyron wrote: »
    I haven't played in a long while, noticed that the Carve morph of Cleave now has the base shield and the bleed stacks 3 times. How viable is it now in PvE dps situations?

    I recently saw that carve changed, and I have to say:

    Good for bursting large groups of enemies faster:
    LA --> Carve --> LA --> Carve --> LA --> Carve

    Long solo fights:
    LA --> Carve --> LA --> Some other ability --> repeat

    I could be wrong, but this is how I've adjusted my rotation.
    Edited by Syrpynt on October 8, 2021 3:38PM
  • Skullstachio
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    Carve is in a good spot, but in my case, there is only one problem, Because there is no initial tick of bleed damage when applying the bleed (not counting the damage done from the direct attack itself), reapplication results in a slight net loss of dps since Reapplication of the bleed prevents the bleed itself from dealing damage until the moment you stop using carve.

    Two ways this could be remedied:
    1. Add an initial tick of bleed damage that occurs when damaging a target/s with carve, this would add an extra tick but given the duration, it would be more spread and likely result in slight less damage per tick when not using carve but remains roughly the same for its entirety. Or…
    2. Add a 2 Second delay to targets hit, so as to allow some bleed damage to occur, as in its current state reminds me of Sunderflame before a 2 second delay was added to it due to it not dealing damage under certain circumstances.
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    As a magden main checking out stamdk it's quite fun to use and a pretty solid DoT.
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  • Akali
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    Carve has changed !?
  • vms11934
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    Akali wrote: »
    Carve has changed !?

    "Focus your strength into a mighty swing, dealing 1742 Bleed Damage to enemies in front of you, and causing them to bleed for an additional 1790 Bleed Damage over 10 seconds. The bleed stacks up to 3 times. You also gain a damage shield that absorbs 1742 damage for 6 seconds."
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    vms11934 wrote: »
    Akali wrote: »
    Carve has changed !?

    "Focus your strength into a mighty swing, dealing 1742 Bleed Damage to enemies in front of you, and causing them to bleed for an additional 1790 Bleed Damage over 10 seconds. The bleed stacks up to 3 times. You also gain a damage shield that absorbs 1742 damage for 6 seconds."

    next patch the DoT is 12 seconds.
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  • Stx
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    I think the new carve is fantastic unless you are trying to solo some of the hardest content in the game like dlc vet dungeons, you may want brawler morph for those huge shields.

    But I like carve for the stacking bleed, and the shield is still pretty nice. I think my shield is 8k with bastion cp, and if I fall to low health I just switch to carve as spammable until I'm topped again from self heals.

    I can't speak too much about using carve in pve but I imagine it would be nice for trash packs that will live at least 10 seconds.
  • Akali
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    vms11934 wrote: »
    Akali wrote: »
    Carve has changed !?

    "Focus your strength into a mighty swing, dealing 1742 Bleed Damage to enemies in front of you, and causing them to bleed for an additional 1790 Bleed Damage over 10 seconds. The bleed stacks up to 3 times. You also gain a damage shield that absorbs 1742 damage for 6 seconds."

    Thank you mate, yeah I read it but haven't ever read carve before so it meant nothing to me. Just so happens I am using a new two hander and figured I would give that a go.

    So, to understand, the best way to use t is whack it 3 times? Then do something else and come back to it after 6 seconds ish ?
  • Akali
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    10 seconds*
  • vms11934
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    Akali wrote: »
    vms11934 wrote: »
    Akali wrote: »
    Carve has changed !?

    "Focus your strength into a mighty swing, dealing 1742 Bleed Damage to enemies in front of you, and causing them to bleed for an additional 1790 Bleed Damage over 10 seconds. The bleed stacks up to 3 times. You also gain a damage shield that absorbs 1742 damage for 6 seconds."

    Thank you mate, yeah I read it but haven't ever read carve before so it meant nothing to me. Just so happens I am using a new two hander and figured I would give that a go.

    So, to understand, the best way to use t is whack it 3 times? Then do something else and come back to it after 6 seconds ish ?

    I used Brawler in pve and haven't used either in pvp, so I can't say what would be best but I imagine weaving in a Carve every 3 attack or so just to keep the three dots up at all times and to refresh the shield (I don't think the shield stacks to spamming it might be counterproductive).
  • Ippokrates
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    With new sets like Hexos or Pelinal's Wrath, shields are no longer an issue, so when aiming for solo, you can be satisfied with smaller shield of carve. Brawler is no longer a must.

    And yes, carve is great, especially with Master's 2h ;)
    Edited by Ippokrates on October 11, 2021 11:00PM
  • ke.sardenb14_ESO
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    2h master weapon+carve effectively makes vVH a joke
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