Lag. Happens literally all of the time. It's just some times it's more noticeable than others.

Sluggy wrote: »

Lag. Happens literally all of the time. It's just some times it's more noticeable than others.

Didn't experience anything like this last night before or after this encounter (wasn't even 1v1 the entire time, we just got separated from the larger battle at the end.

Kaysha wrote: »

Or lag switch

That is something I have heard about but I couldn't recall the term. Is there a way to report suspected cheaters? And more importantly, can ZOS actually determine if they are using a cheat/hack?

Because he said "I wonder what it looks like on his [end]" I don't know; maybe (he is on PC though and I am on PS4). It definitely wasn't an instant death type thing, just a continuous series of very fast attacks that all ended up being abilities.

As regards the guy in that video (and those like him), the bigger the cheats the smaller the man (if he can be called such).

Hopefully you're on PC. Get an addon, such as FTC, and examine the combat log after a fight. The death recap does not include the exact times when the attacks happened. The combat log from an addon does. Just turn off the scrolling combat text in FTC, since that kills performance. Only retain the combat log for examination after a fight.

I have studied detailed logs in many similar cases, when I felt aggrieved. This will teach you a lot about the game. For example one thing that's not much talked about is the effect that the 400ms ultimate delays have had on the followup attack, such as executioner. An ultimate and execute typically land in the same second.

It doesn't take cheats / hacks to explain things like this. Delayed skills, including ultimates, and skills with travel times are quite enough. This has been proven time and again to me by looking at combat logs.

Lag compounds the issue. You don't see what's happening. You can go from 100% health to 0%, due to a desync. That's an unfortunate reality, but doesn't mean your opponent cheated. Luckily a detailed combat log shows server timings. You can retrospectively see what your opponent has actually done. The death recap is far too coarse. It is utterly useless to help you understand your opponent's play.

Fengrush's macro slice video is really old. I remember a time when stuff like that used to happen to me. I think another thing that happens (at least historically): If you get CCd while dodge rolling, it may take you an extra GCD (global cooldown / an aditional second) to recover. Sometimes this is reflected by you lying flat on the floor. A further scenario is multiple players attacking you and CCing you while you are breaking free. It used to be that you only get CC immunity at the end of the break free. I think that may still be the case. Thus it is / was possible to get double CCd when multiple players attack you.

I think the term "macro slice" is unfortunate in so far as it hints at the perpetrator using macros, which I don't think was ever necessary to cause the effect. Has the game been buggy? Yeah. Have you ever had full control over this? I don't think so. I still run into all sorts of bugs these days. DK Leap not working. Stun timer being a huge number and every bash causing you to get charged for a break free. Being "macro sliced", though, is rare for me these days. In fact, I can't remember the last time.

This kind of bug happends tzo me pretty offten, always together with animation cancling (especially in combination with synergies and la/skill/bash weaving). but its just visual i never could bypass any CCD or cast anything faster then intented.

Then on the other hand there is the classic desync from incomming dmg. This happends especially with projectiles with slow travel speed (snipe/overload). This can mostly only be seen by the person getting the dmg, for the caster everything looks normal.

i have arround 4800h of pure PvP playtime and i never saw a cheater in the last year, but i saw huntreds of bugs.

As someone who also plays on PS4, here lately I've been noticing skill delay has been a lot worse, and every once and a while when I spam my skills while they're not working, they will all of a sudden all go off at the same time leading to like a burst of abilities. Unfortunately for me it usually just means I run out of Stam because it spams all my buffs

You wanna see the opposite?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlyXMjrLoM

I don't think any of this lags is possible to force. If my internet lags for me in BGs, I outright skip many attacks and it doesn't end up good for me.

This must be server lagging, calculating later than it should, sending you results later than it should. Which means you don't see enemy actions (because they are visual result of server sending you packets), and then you see everything that players buffered into server happened fast.

I don't have solid proof, but my guess that those computations can also have some altered logic, I noticed that dodgerolls have extended dodge period in cyro (medium lag) compared to BGs (no lag).

vms11934 wrote: »

Last night in Cyro I was fighting someone (mostly running and healing) and his attacks were super fast (like every 0.5 seconds). I was thinking he must be using that set where light attacks are 50% faster and hit for 50% more damage. When I looked at the death recap, there were not only no light attacks, but it was 2 Executes, a Dizzying Swing and a couple of other things (procs I think). Each one was only for 2-3k and death recap only shows the last five attacks. I know you can switch bars to animation cancel, but it doesn't work for Execute if I recall correctly and it certainly doesn't work for Dizzying Swing/Wrecking Blow. So it is possible to cheat in this way, on console no less?

What platform are you using? And if on console what system?

For consoles there is a add on that can be used with controllers that have rare triggers and that add on counts one trigger push but with it properly set up it can register as if multiple buttons were hit. That add on is cheating and quite a few so called players on PSN in ESO and other games are using it.

Why, because in BR when it was really low population and we were not seeing any lag that night. I left the keep with a friend after just popped our defensive buffs and we were on our back/defensive bars no less, out of no where another player drops both of us within the 3 seconds. .

My resistance on my back bar is around 24K and I had an additional 15% damage reduction from abilities either slotted or that were used. I have over 30K HP. My friend similar setup with HP but instead of damage reduction he has around 31K resistance. I was only hit with lethal arrow as was my friend and by the same player.

Together we were hit 10x. That ability takes almost a second to proc and yet we both got hit 5x by it and died within 3 seconds. Even with lag that shouldn't be happening. That's cheating.

MEBengalsFan2001 wrote: »

For consoles there is a add on that can be used with controllers that have rare triggers and that add on counts one trigger push but with it properly set up it can register as if multiple buttons were hit. That add on is cheating and quite a few so called players on PSN in ESO and other games are using it.

should be doable with pc as well but isn't skill firing limited to one per gcd by server?