Why did I pay full price for blackwood when 4 months later it's half price?

wishlist14 · October 2021

Im seriously fuming mad at this. Im paying a permanent subscription, have done so for years. Most of the time i buy the limited edition expansions too and I just bought sweetwater cascades fully furnished. Im not rich, i have to save for these things.

I feel ripped off that the expansion is sold cheaper only a few months later...if i had known prior i would not have bought blackwood back in june.

I just feel hurt because i support this game a lot and yes its my choice to do it but its getting to the point where im seriously feeling like im being shafted here. Im very upset when i should be excited what with the gorgeous house and community event. Why treat long term customers this way. I have been ao loyal to this company.
These decisions to hype up the mystery gift and then let us eso plus members down like this is pushing me to consider quitting this game.

It's not even aboug the money anymore its about fairness and consideration.

I know not everyone feels this way and i respect it if you disagree with me but i just had to get this off my chest.😢😢😢😢😢😢

Gythral · October 2021

this is normal - almost all games are discounted within months - if you want the lower price just wait - if you want it NOW accept it'll be cheaper in a short time!

Recent · October 2021

Hmmm it makes no sense to sell it half price so early after release , I see why you feel its unfair

spartaxoxo · October 2021

This has been a way to promote the game every year since Summerset though. It's normal for games to go on discount after they aren't brand new anymore. And they have used this to bring the community together to do a big hurrah for the chapter for years at this point.

I don't see how it's unfair at all to have discounts on old items, or how you've missed this for the past like 3 years...

tonyblack · October 2021

And you could get it for free with next chapter.

InaMoonlight · October 2021

I knew they would, they always do, but I honestly wanted the pre-order items as well + patience is for the immortal...

But now you know for next time and will be able to make your choice, so sucks to feel ripped off..

But if its any consolation I ended up first buying basic pre-order (cause that was all I could afford at the time).. and then later upgrading to collectors because I reallyreally wanted the armorstyle. .. Smarted a bit, but I blame myself...

Akali · October 2021

Good to vent, absolutely nothing wrong with it.

I personally don't see any issue at all, I payed full price for blackwood knowing it would eventually be cheaper, or if I wanted to wait, free. I mean, if you want it 'now' you tend to pay the price. If you didn't buy it then the price went UP I would understand that would be extremely annoying

davidtk · October 2021

Hey, i bought for me and wife long before standart and after some months i wanted collectors editions so i bought it again twice

i am not mad that they put it on discount when is there event

I didn't want to wait for next chapter to bought stuff for crowns.

markulrich1966 · October 2021

if you check the steamcharts, you will see that the amount of players rises just for 1 month, then declines again.

Offering it for sale shortly after, helps to reduce this decline. So this strategy has been used every year, nothing new.

You even could wait for a whole year and play it completely for free, if you subscribe to ESO+.

What you would miss though buying late:

No bonus items like the welva mount from the pre-purchase or the deadlands gladiator outfit.
No fun NOW.
Making gold from items as long as they are new and rare. Like Ivory brigade clasp, Black fin motifs. Furnishing plans sold for several 100k, up to 1 mio. Now they are down to 20k already.

For me, these points justified the pre-purchase. If they don't justify it for you, you should wait next time.

EF321 · October 2021

I knew it will be at least 50% off during september-october event (all recent chapters were), so buying it early was a decision I made knowing that.

I've sold chapter stuff that I don't need/duplicates for many millions totals and been using all four chapter mythics (yes, even shapeshifter) all this time, so no regrets.

Luke_Flamesword · October 2021

There is a pattern here for last couple years - special chapter event in early autumn with chapter sale. You feel ripped off because you didn't check how it's usually works. Sales and promotions don't hurt anyone, especially when they are so easily to predict. I paid full price too and for me it's ok, because I had fun with Blackwood since 4 months now, without waiting for sales.

If it's hard for you to get money for things then you should do "your homework" and check things first before you will buy anything. I don't have too much cash either, so I buy crowns only on sales planning this for months, because I checked when they usually do this. I follow twitch drops for free gems to have some nice stuff for free, etc. I just do everything to minimize potential lose.

If for you there is no problem with waiting 4 months for chapter, there is a good news for you - now you learned about it and you can wait in next years, because this will happen again for 99%. So you will use it next year or just you will protest that there shouldn't be any sale ever?

Lady_Galadhiel · October 2021

I did the mistake with Greymoor last year and I did it this year.If next years chapter isnt anything what convinces me 100% or they include some new perk/skill line/class with it what I would urgently want I wont preorder anymore or buy it at full price.

BomblePants · October 2021

I always wait… but I hear you.

Don’t quit… take a deep breath, enjoy the game and remember next year to wait for the discount to kick in

Sheezabeast · October 2021

People preorder chapters for the digital shiny things, it's not so much about losing money when you do it that way and it goes on sale and gets given away, because you paid for your preorder exclusives. Never buy chapters unless you preorder for the goodies.

Mira_Steintor · October 2021

I bought the base game at full price - €60. Couple of months later the price was cut permanently.

I've bought every chapter since Summerset or Morrowind (whichever was first) at full price.

Been paying the sub since 2015.

These are all choices I've made. I've yet to get much past Orsinium (I'm a rubbish player).. This event is the first time I've played any of the expansions I've paid for, beyond small bits.

I don't feel I've wasted my money. I have the content available whenever I want to access it.. I can drop the sub when i'm not playing.

Sure.. I knew I could have waited to get discounts... but I didn't want to wait. Even when I wasn't playing, I still didn't want to wait.

JKorr · October 2021

wishlist14 wrote: »

Im seriously fuming mad at this. Im paying a permanent subscription, have done so for years. Most of the time i buy the limited edition expansions too and I just bought sweetwater cascades fully furnished. Im not rich, i have to save for these things.

I feel ripped off that the expansion is sold cheaper only a few months later...if i had known prior i would not have bought blackwood back in june.

I just feel hurt because i support this game a lot and yes its my choice to do it but its getting to the point where im seriously feeling like im being shafted here. Im very upset when i should be excited what with the gorgeous house and community event. Why treat long term customers this way. I have been ao loyal to this company.
These decisions to hype up the mystery gift and then let us eso plus members down like this is pushing me to consider quitting this game.

It's not even aboug the money anymore its about fairness and consideration.

I know not everyone feels this way and i respect it if you disagree with me but i just had to get this off my chest.😢😢😢😢😢😢

If you want to play the content immediately, you'll pay full price. If you want the "order early" bells and whistles, you'll pay full price. If you can wait a few weeks, or months, you'll pay a lot less.

Some people were rather perturbed to find that, after they paid full price for Morrowind, a year later when Summerset came out Morrowind was now DLC. Some people complained they paid full price for Summerset, when a year later Elsweyr was released, and Summerset was now DLC. I consider paying for the chapters pre-order or at release because I get to play for a full year before the content goes to DLC, I've had my sub since early release when it was required. This game is still the cheapest hobby I've ever picked up considering the amount of time I play.

SeaGtGruff · October 2021

It's a lot like going to a movie on opening night and paying full price, plus spending a lot for over-priced concessions, then the bargain theatres are showing the movie some months later and the concessions are slightly cheaper. If you want to see the movie when it first comes out, you must pay a lot more for the experience than if you're willing to wait until it comes to the bargain theatres. And if you wait longer, you get to see it for "free" on TV-- initially on subscription movie channels, and later on broadcast TV.

So you just have to decide how much you want to play the new chapter's content. You can pay full price if you want to play it as soon as it's released, or pay a bit less when it goes on sale if you don't mind waiting several months, or wait until you can access it "for free" via an ESO Plus subscription if you don't mind waiting a year to play it.

Pauwer · October 2021

I only bought this expansion after it was on discount, for the first time ever. I had always prepuchased the previous expansions. I also was a bit amazed that it went on discount so fast and they made an event on it.

My guess is that i was not the only one of long-time customers not buying it full price and they were forced to put it on sale and push marketing with the event.

Danikat · October 2021

I can't say why you did it but I pre-ordered Blackwood because I wanted the items that came with it (especially the mount). But then I also found a reputable 3rd party site selling it slightly cheaper, which brought it down to a price I thought was reasonable for the content (having checked it out on the PTS) and the items I wanted. If I hadn't been able to find it for a reasonable price I'd have waited for Blackwood to be on sale before buying it, which I knew would happen sooner or later because it always does.

I'm not sure how you've missed it before but the chapters have always been discounted a few months after release. Also roughly a year after release (when the next chapter is released) they're re-branded DLC meaning they're included with ESO+ and available on the crown store, offering another oppertunity to get them at a discount by buying crowns during a sale.

It's always worth remembering that you're not required to buy anything else just because you're playing ESO, you're certainly not required to buy everything. If you think a particular purchase isn't worth the money then don't get it. If you want it but think it's too expensive for what it is then look for other options, just like you would when buying anything else.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

This has been a way to promote the game every year since Summerset though. It's normal for games to go on discount after they aren't brand new anymore. And they have used this to bring the community together to do a big hurrah for the chapter for years at this point.

I don't see how it's unfair at all to have discounts on old items, or how you've missed this for the past like 3 years...

They did it for Morrowind too, but that was just a sale, it wasn't linked to an in-game event.

SickDuck · October 2021

It has always been the case, promos happen pretty soon. Remember after a year it becomes "free" within the ESO+ sub, so why pay at all? The answer is: you paid the full price for that 4 months, where you could play with the chapter earlier then those who just bought it. Maybe not fair but definitely not unexpected.

Btw, I've bought the chapter a month ago and managed to make a few million golds before the this event, where motif and furnishing plan prices plummeted. Just to mention one tangible advantage...

ArielSira · October 2021

You paid full price for early access, though it's not hard buying it cheaper as pre-order even.

spartaxoxo · October 2021

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I knew they would, they always do, but I honestly wanted the pre-order items as well + patience is for the immortal...

But now you know for next time and will be able to make your choice, so sucks to feel ripped off..

But if its any consolation I ended up first buying basic pre-order (cause that was all I could afford at the time).. and then later upgrading to collectors because I reallyreally wanted the armorstyle. .. Smarted a bit, but I blame myself...

Yeah the preorder bonuses were really nice

magnusthorek · October 2021

"If it’s fast and cheap it won’t be good. If it’s cheap and good, it won’t be fast. If it’s fast and good, it won’t be cheap"

Lady_Sleepless · October 2021

Did you play it for 4 months before the sale?

jlmurra2 · October 2021

Pre-order content is bait.

Maya_Nur · October 2021

If I remember correctly, there always was a sale for the chapters previous years. However, this year sale appeared much earlier.

colossalvoids · October 2021

Everything would be discounted, always was like that. Next year it will become free with eso plus and people will still be fuming? Smh.

MasterSpatula · October 2021

You paid for months of access that people buying now did not get.

cyberjanet · October 2021

When I decided not to pre-purchase in protest against the poor execution of the companion system, I did some research:

Sale cycle of a new chapter, which usually launches June:
35% off during quakecon, usually August
50% of during community event, end September/October
67% off on Black Fredas and during New Life event

I normally like to pre-purchase early so that I can put the new crafting stations in the guild hall almost immediately.
Can't think that I've ever been attracted by the pre-purchase bonuses.

spartaxoxo · October 2021

Maya_Nur wrote: »

If I remember correctly, there always was a sale for the chapters previous years. However, this year sale appeared much earlier.

Summerset release date May 21, 2018
Summerset (Summerfall) event start Sept 20, 2018
Days in between: 122 days
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/summerfall
Discount: 40%

Elsweyr release date May 20th, 2019
Elsweyr event (Dragon Rise) start date October 3rd, 2019
Days in between: 136
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/dragonrise
Discount: 50%

Greymoor release date May 26th 2020
Greymoor event (Lost Treasures of Skyrim) start date September 23rd 2020
Days in between: 120 days
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/losttreasures
Discount: 50%

Blackwood release date June 1st 2021
Blackwood event (Bounties of Blackwood) start date September 30th 2021
Days in between: 121 days
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/bountiesofblackwood
Discount: 50%

Days in between used this calculator
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html

So nope, this sale appeared around the same time as the other ones and is the same percentage off. Elsweyr was significantly later than the others, but the rest all debuted in very similar amount of days. And it's consistently been half off since Elsweyr.

DMuehlhausen · October 2021

wishlist14 wrote: »

Im seriously fuming mad at this. Im paying a permanent subscription, have done so for years. Most of the time i buy the limited edition expansions too and I just bought sweetwater cascades fully furnished. Im not rich, i have to save for these things.

I feel ripped off that the expansion is sold cheaper only a few months later...if i had known prior i would not have bought blackwood back in june.

I just feel hurt because i support this game a lot and yes its my choice to do it but its getting to the point where im seriously feeling like im being shafted here. Im very upset when i should be excited what with the gorgeous house and community event. Why treat long term customers this way. I have been ao loyal to this company.
These decisions to hype up the mystery gift and then let us eso plus members down like this is pushing me to consider quitting this game.

It's not even aboug the money anymore its about fairness and consideration.

I know not everyone feels this way and i respect it if you disagree with me but i just had to get this off my chest.😢😢😢😢😢😢

Cause they have done that every year.