Marcus_Aurelius wrote: »

I think I am (was) one of the last magwardens still in service in PvP. They have always been so bad compared to other classes that seeing one was like seeing an unicorn.

So I really want to tank you for the release of Plaguebreaker, now I can't use the only skill that had some class importance.

RIP Magwardens.

Gonna level up a magsorc and join the flock. See you.

Magicka Warden really needs some self healing help in it's green balance line in the coming patches along with a redesign to Arctic Blast to make it a proper offensive stun and damage skill.

The subclass is genuinely awful to survive on compared to most other magicka classes bar maybe magblade, because it's burst healing options are all incredibly bad for healing themselves (i must stress that i mean only themselves. they're still very good group healers). Budding seeds is an awful skill to spam as a heal except when it a group, because while it's tooltip is huge and in aoe, it requires 2 gcds to use, and is a placed aoe skill, leaving it very prone to lag, it's also not as easily spammed as breath of life, twilight matriarch or resistant flesh. mushrooms is bad because it's tooltip is really low for the ginormous cost and type of skill it is, even major mending doesn't come close to saving it. living trellis is cheap, but it's burst heal is atrocious since the major mending and healing nerfs, blessing of restoration is probably our best option, being relatively cheap, giving minor resolve and healing for about 10% less than our Tree Ultimate's burst heal, it's problem is that it still is not enough to be a great heal. arctic blast is our remaining option, which scales based on health, but in order to get a great tooltip with it, your max hp needs to be so huge that you sacrifice damage in order to be able to heal well with it(i personally think that is fine for the current iteration of that morph). It also offers some okay damage and a defensive stun, which makes it both obnoxious to use offensively, and to play against, it does basically everything but it wasn't what we needed. We never needed a defensive stun, we needed an offensive class stun that was able to deal damage. and we still do. being forced to use a fire staff in order to have access to a somewhat viable offensive stun is really poor design, especially as the stun is a knockback, which can disrupt our deep fissure combos. Shimmering shield is really strong, but it does not protect against stamina based attackers virtually at all unless they're playing with a bow. i acknowledge that it can be really frustrating to face, but magdens are still quite killable. The shield has an internal cooldown and does not block every projectile. i've been killed through it by projectiles several times.

most good magdens i know from the legend discord don't play the class anymore because it performs so poorly as a damage dealer in comparison to anything else you could consider. It's main use is as a group healer and/or as a DC+Hroth bot at the moment in groups due to how badly overtuned those sets are, this role is not even unique to magden as well.

Magden have only been nerfed in the last years… Permafrost nerf, buff nerfs (magden was the most affected), artic blast nerfs…
Now, plaguebreak its a massacre with Magdens..
Warden without a belly, its not a warden…
Plz, show magdens some love… we are underpower compared to all other mag sub-classes. (NB as well)

You guys do realize you don't have to run netch, right? If you really are dying so much because of plague, you can skip netch. Everything it gives you can be gotten via other means.