like i said, no decent counter, if you have 40k hp, knight slayer wont even do 4k with a fully charged heavy, and im pretty sure that effect gets cut by battle spirit.

its terrible.

When you have 30k hp and everyone deals 10k extra damage from a proc that scales off armor, the sensible solution is to now run around with 40k hp.

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

How do you stay alive with lots of HP and very little mitigation?

Is your defense from other sources enough to keep you alive?

Major/Minor Protection, Vampire Stage 3, Evasion, etc

and battle spirit, blocking, etc.

i personally block more as DK both has innate extra block mitigation and they added a new CP passive that gives another 20% (dumb addition btw, its so much)

its all about, and always has been, finding the cheesy % damage mitigation that is hard to / impossible to bypass, thats why spirit mender out of necro has always been so annoying, untyped 10% damage mitigation (another major protection now)

but, im also not saying dump resistances entirely.

simply that if you had a defensive set before (common was pariah) if your looking to help mitigate this current meta, simply swap your one defensive set if it was a resistance set (once again like pariah or brass or what have you) simply make your defensive set health based, like green pact, plague, etc.
it gives you the defenses you need, and does not increase your enemies proc damage, win win.

gamma71 wrote: »

Glad I didn't gold out all my pariah gear I had a feeling it would turn to trash. I'm gonna go raw hp myself. What sets are you runnin?

If you play in no proc, pariah is still very nice

Wing wrote: »

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

How do you stay alive with lots of HP and very little mitigation?

Is your defense from other sources enough to keep you alive?

Major/Minor Protection, Vampire Stage 3, Evasion, etc

its all about, and always has been, finding the cheesy % damage mitigation that is hard to / impossible to bypass, thats why spirit mender out of necro has always been so annoying, untyped 10% damage mitigation (another major protection now)

You can look at it the other way; every single class got mitigation buffed to Necromancer levels this patch.

Necro, ironically, got punished because its spirit guardian 10% reduction is increasing less valuable due to the harsh diminishing returns on the very large number of % damage reductions in the game now.

Dropping guardian for spirit mender healing morph only netted me a 2-3% reduction in % damage mitigation. If I were doing noCP, I would still use the guardian for 10% mitigation.

divnyi wrote: »

katorga wrote: »

Wing wrote: »

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

How do you stay alive with lots of HP and very little mitigation?

Is your defense from other sources enough to keep you alive?

Major/Minor Protection, Vampire Stage 3, Evasion, etc

its all about, and always has been, finding the cheesy % damage mitigation that is hard to / impossible to bypass, thats why spirit mender out of necro has always been so annoying, untyped 10% damage mitigation (another major protection now)

Necro, ironically, got punished because its spirit guardian 10% reduction is increasing less valuable due to the harsh diminishing returns on the very large number of % damage reductions in the game now.

There are literally no diminishing returns on percent mitigations. Taking 10% less means you will die 10% slower in any possible scenario.

Quite right - you get every last percent in terms of it increasing your Effective HP.

gamma71 wrote: »

I tried stacking health idk I feel I'm still getting hit hard. Thinking of buffer of the swift.... What are you guys using instead of pariah?

either green pact or plague for me depending on if vamp or not.

I think you have a lot more options for defense this patch than stacking health. Like many last patch, I was using pariah or daedric trickery on a lot of my builds. On most of my builds for this patch, I swapped to mitigation % and have been doing more blocking. I went with 2 dps sets and balorgs / bloodspawn while slotting both major and minor protection, vamp stage 3 and use up to 3 blue defense slottable CPs. I also use either ice staff or S&B on BB for the additional blocking bonuses.

On a few builds I am using sets like Swift or Ironblood paired up with a dps and monster set. Mostly when I either do not need the extra dps or am doing a lot of brawling opposed to ranged attacks.

Some other defense tactics:
- keep major evasion up - that 20% is really helpful.
- know where the green healing AE HoT circles and purge synergies are at all times. Moving to them and hitting X has saved me countless times.
- Block. IMO, blocking is still the most effective way to mitigate damage. It essentially lets you walk out of DC pools. Base blocking is 50% mitigation (that stacks additively with blocking bonuses but multiplicatively with other mitigation).
- Movement speed. A very underrated defense tactic. Moving quickly around obstacles to block LoS or out of range is a very effective defense tactic.
- CC immunity. I try to keep 1 snare & immobilization ability slotted and use 3 red slottable CPs for different types of cc immunity benefits.
- Immovable pots and poisons - make sure you have a few stacks and use them strategically opposed to spamming a pot every time the cool down is over.
- Buff up before charging an opponent or rushing through a keep door (you'd be surprised how many do not do this).
- Major and minor maim - this is equivalent to having major and minor protection on yourself, but opponent specific. These stack multiplicatively with other mitigation bonuses. I do not go out of my way to cast maims, but if they are included in abilities I cast already, it just a plus.
- crowd control. IMO, everyone in PVP should have at least 1 crowd control ability slotted. These are so effective, and now with plaguebreak, less likely to get purged as before. They basically pause your opponent to let you burst them down, heal up or run away.
- Roll dodge. My favorite defense tactic. I favor well fitted and speed in my builds as I like to move around at range, so well fitted works for my play style very well.

Those are just some of my tactics. I am sure there are more out there. While these might be obvious to experienced players, not so much for newer players.

Regards

Now that they nerfed or fixed Hrothgar might be time to put the gold pariah back on ?

What's better in your guys opion buffer of swift with a flat 10% damage reduction or the pariah with 10k spell and physical buff ? I've been using both and can't tell much of a difference. Just curious on others opions.