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Dark Convergence+Hrothgar GODMODE BUILD GUIDE + FULL COMMENTARY BATTLEGROUND GAMEPLAY

Moriz
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you wanna do damage, like bigboi damage?
yo, trust me, i got you.

Quick-Guide + gameplay commentary of a Deathmatch SOLO QUEUE Battleground where I had no team and was rocking it solo pretty much. (Just to display that it is very effective even on unfavorable moments/outnumbered)


This is the link for the full build on the ESO builder tool so you can check it out:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoB...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIaJHXSZMcE&t=10s&ab_channel=BlacksheepPvP
  • Kartalin
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    Imagine creating a build where you don’t even bother to relay what class it’s for. I suppose I could actually watching the video, but this brand of cheese is rank.
    • PC/NA
    • Karllotta, AD Magplar, AR 50
    • Hatched-In-Glacier, DC Magden, AR 44
    • Miraliys, EP Warden, AR 35
    • Kartalin, AD Stamblade, AR 35
    • Miralys, AD Magsorc, AR 35
    • Milthalas, EP Magblade, AR 35
    • Kallenna, AD Magcro, AR 34
    • Lyranais, EP Magsorc, AR 34
    • Lemon Party - Meanest Girls - @ Kartalin - Youtube
  • CharlieFreak
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    No offence against you, Moriz, as this is just how things are right now.

    However I cannot begin to describe how sick of this I am after 3 days. Doubt I'll play BGs until something gets changed.

    Just tonight there were three sorcs doing this nonstop. It's really not fun to spend the whole BG running to a flag, getting pulled into convergence and endless Daedric Tombs over and over and over, dodge rolling out, barely a couple seconds go by and sucked right back in. It's just ridiculous.

    Compound that with the fact that there seems to be no way to predict how much Hrothgar will hit for. Sometimes it's 5k, but often more like 10-15k. I think the most I've been hit for is 22k. That's not even reasonable in any way for a freaking proc.

    Apparently, from reading the other threads on Hrothgar, it may be bugged right now. If you are not the original recipient of the stun that triggers it - it seems to bypass battle spirit?
  • Moriz
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    i mean, it's not really my fault they released broken sets.
    I (and like 70% of the game) will surely be using the new stuff when the new stuff drops though.
    I personally have no problem avoiding the damage from Dark Convergence and I rarely take any significant damage from it.

    Hrothgar is dumb tho and I hope they nerf it to the ground. Until then I am absolutely going to use it
  • WeylandLabs
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    Moriz wrote: »
    i mean, it's not really my fault they released broken sets.
    I (and like 70% of the game) will surely be using the new stuff when the new stuff drops though.
    I personally have no problem avoiding the damage from Dark Convergence and I rarely take any significant damage from it.

    Hrothgar is dumb tho and I hope they nerf it to the ground. Until then I am absolutely going to use it

    That's how gaming companies do business now * Every dlc they try to sale it. this has always been ZOS. This isn't an esport or extreme competive game to take seriously. Just have fun and buy the dlc grab the sets and say your the best in the world. 🤣
  • Moriz
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    Moriz wrote: »
    i mean, it's not really my fault they released broken sets.
    I (and like 70% of the game) will surely be using the new stuff when the new stuff drops though.
    I personally have no problem avoiding the damage from Dark Convergence and I rarely take any significant damage from it.

    Hrothgar is dumb tho and I hope they nerf it to the ground. Until then I am absolutely going to use it

    That's how gaming companies do business now * Every dlc they try to sale it. this has always been ZOS. This isn't an esport or extreme competive game to take seriously. Just have fun and buy the dlc grab the sets and say your the best in the world. 🤣

    ikr?
    for some reason people have a hard time processing that.
    [snip]
    [edited for bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on September 10, 2021 3:54PM
  • Neloth
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    Moriz wrote: »
    i mean, it's not really my fault they released broken sets.
    I (and like 70% of the game) will surely be using the new stuff when the new stuff drops though.
    I personally have no problem avoiding the damage from Dark Convergence and I rarely take any significant damage from it.

    Hrothgar is dumb tho and I hope they nerf it to the ground. Until then I am absolutely going to use it

    That's how gaming companies do business now * Every dlc they try to sale it. this has always been ZOS. This isn't an esport or extreme competive game to take seriously. Just have fun and buy the dlc grab the sets and say your the best in the world. 🤣

    lol, Hrothgar and Dark Convergence drop as PvP rewards, you don't have to buy anything for them

    Finally we are not forced to farm stupid PvE content to get nice PvP gear, but you still complain[snip]

    [edited for baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on September 10, 2021 3:54PM
  • Jameson18
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    Neloth wrote: »
    nice PvP gear

    L to the O to the L.

    I dread this patch hitting console. People are dropping like flies already. Slow roll into a ghost town.
    Edited by Jameson18 on September 7, 2021 4:02PM
  • CharlieFreak
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    Moriz wrote: »
    i mean, it's not really my fault they released broken sets.
    I (and like 70% of the game) will surely be using the new stuff when the new stuff drops though.
    I personally have no problem avoiding the damage from Dark Convergence and I rarely take any significant damage from it.

    Hrothgar is dumb tho and I hope they nerf it to the ground. Until then I am absolutely going to use it

    Yeah, I meant what I said. I don't fault you for doing it. It only makes sense to use the best current gear and combos available. No reasonable person could fault you for it. And clearly you're a good player.

    You're right. Dark Convergence is easy to avoid, until you run out of stamina from dodge rolling it so many times. As a sorc you can streak out I suppose, but for mag classes with a limited stamina pool and no streak, eventually they'll get you with it, and of course a couple Hrothgar's will be on the death cap to seal the deal. :p
  • Moriz
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    in all honesty i will take this meta over the 1 button crit rush
    Moriz wrote: »
    i mean, it's not really my fault they released broken sets.
    I (and like 70% of the game) will surely be using the new stuff when the new stuff drops though.
    I personally have no problem avoiding the damage from Dark Convergence and I rarely take any significant damage from it.

    Hrothgar is dumb tho and I hope they nerf it to the ground. Until then I am absolutely going to use it

    Yeah, I meant what I said. I don't fault you for doing it. It only makes sense to use the best current gear and combos available. No reasonable person could fault you for it. And clearly you're a good player.

    You're right. Dark Convergence is easy to avoid, until you run out of stamina from dodge rolling it so many times. As a sorc you can streak out I suppose, but for mag classes with a limited stamina pool and no streak, eventually they'll get you with it, and of course a couple Hrothgar's will be on the death cap to seal the deal. :p

    I just posted a video showing how easy it is to avoid it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIewbRYYYJQ&ab_channel=BlacksheepPvP
  • moo_2021
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    Someone ran that in EU BG last evening, very effective.

    All ground effects look the same to me so I mostly ignore red and charge into certain death when it's on BG objectives...

    no idea how people avoid that, unless they don't do objectives or support teammates?


    make me wonder if I should do the same, have both sets collected already...
    Edited by moo_2021 on September 9, 2021 9:07AM
  • techyeshic
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    DC gets you even outside the circle. Maybe that's something with primetime Cyrodiil, though. To go with double and triple break free, or so many dark convergence being dropped that you get pulled into 1 that's already doing damage.

    I can't think of a worse meta in prime time Cyrodiil; nor 1 even close. I think even perma bat swarm DK was better
    Edited by techyeshic on September 9, 2021 12:35PM
  • CharlieFreak
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    moo_2021 wrote: »
    Someone ran that in EU BG last evening, very effective.

    All ground effects look the same to me so I mostly ignore red and charge into certain death when it's on BG objectives...

    no idea how people avoid that, unless they don't do objectives or support teammates?


    make me wonder if I should do the same, have both sets collected already...

    Well, of course! Didn't you know they're renaming Battlegrounds (so pedestrian) to Converging Hrothgar Wars! <3

    All jokes aside. I have both as well and haven't decided. I'm thinking that all these sets are going to get 'adjustments' soon, but then again, that could take awhile before that happens.
  • Moriz
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    I can imagine it would be much worse in Cyro prime time. I'm generally playing BGs and IC (no proc IC tho cause) so i have not experienced that.
    I think Hrothgar needs to be fixed, it's nonsense that it does sometimes 10-20k unavoidable damage, literally like madness nonsense.
    DC is fine tho, in my own personal opinion at least and for the content I do, maybe not for other areas of the game
  • MEBengalsFan2001
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    Moriz wrote: »
    I can imagine it would be much worse in Cyro prime time. I'm generally playing BGs and IC (no proc IC tho cause) so i have not experienced that.
    I think Hrothgar needs to be fixed, it's nonsense that it does sometimes 10-20k unavoidable damage, literally like madness nonsense.
    DC is fine tho, in my own personal opinion at least and for the content I do, maybe not for other areas of the game

    DC isn't fine. If a group of 100+ players go up against 10-15 players defending the keep you would expect the 100+ players to take the keep. But thanks to DC it isn't as easy as that. 5 well placed attacks wiped quite a bit of100+ group out. Than some players were killed during pick up and more well placed attacks that caused DC damage wiped out more players. What should have been an easy capture became an improbable one. It took some well planned moves but eventually the keep was over taken.

    I'm sure the Devs are capturing data and will use it in the future to adjust the sets and that may make them less likely to be used. It has happened before and it will happen again.
  • techyeshic
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    I have.not seen it help outnumbered players. Mostly; I see the larger group running the most.DC taking out smaller groups easier because the smaller groups are getting pulled every 6 seconds. All these prices do is make it to where there is no need to outplay the other side. Just have more Procs.
  • CharlieFreak
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    Moriz wrote: »
    I can imagine it would be much worse in Cyro prime time. I'm generally playing BGs and IC (no proc IC tho cause) so i have not experienced that.
    I think Hrothgar needs to be fixed, it's nonsense that it does sometimes 10-20k unavoidable damage, literally like madness nonsense.
    DC is fine tho, in my own personal opinion at least and for the content I do, maybe not for other areas of the game

    Come on now. I know you like using it. But it's not fine in BG. It's tolerable in IC. But it's absolute cancer in BG. The amount of sorcs doing exactly what you do increases everyday. Any flag game = sorcs standing on the outside and spamming mines and converg on the flag. No one thinks it's fine. It's the MOST complained about tactic I see in there.
  • Moriz
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    Moriz wrote: »
    I can imagine it would be much worse in Cyro prime time. I'm generally playing BGs and IC (no proc IC tho cause) so i have not experienced that.
    I think Hrothgar needs to be fixed, it's nonsense that it does sometimes 10-20k unavoidable damage, literally like madness nonsense.
    DC is fine tho, in my own personal opinion at least and for the content I do, maybe not for other areas of the game

    Come on now. I know you like using it. But it's not fine in BG. It's tolerable in IC. But it's absolute cancer in BG. The amount of sorcs doing exactly what you do increases everyday. Any flag game = sorcs standing on the outside and spamming mines and converg on the flag. No one thinks it's fine. It's the MOST complained about tactic I see in there.

    i mean, i am saying it. i not only can say its fine, but i actually showed it too on a video. and in the video i showed it, it wasn't against ordinary players either, it was against people who know how to play pvp in ESO
    (big DISCLAIMER is that i'm talking only about BGs. i can see it being a problem if you have 74 people using it somewhere in cyro)



    Hrothgar though... on the other hand. very problematic set yeah. I'm with ya'll on the Hrothgar nerf waiting room
    If anything DC is just annoying and forces you to play differently.
    I personally was having much more fun overall pvping on the previous patch, but I mean it's not really a big deal because it's very easy at this point to obtain said OP pvp sets and everyone can be figthing at equal grounds.

    Now for the people who are complaining and refuse to use the new tech our dear dev team brought to us, I've got no sympathy towards you. Evolve, adapt, or get farmed.
    Edited by Moriz on September 11, 2021 7:58PM
  • WeylandLabs
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    Vaoh wrote: »
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    True ! He'd have made proc sets crit again - You can't say that wasn't fun back in the day. 🤣
    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on September 12, 2021 1:11PM
  • danno8
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    Moriz wrote: »
    Now for the people who are complaining and refuse to use the new tech our dear dev team brought to us, I've got no sympathy towards you. Evolve, adapt, or get farmed or play something else.

    FTFY

    And everyone loses.
  • jerj6925
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    Moriz wrote: »
    you wanna do damage, like bigboi damage?
    yo, trust me, i got you.

    Quick-Guide + gameplay commentary of a Deathmatch SOLO QUEUE Battleground where I had no team and was rocking it solo pretty much. (Just to display that it is very effective even on unfavorable moments/outnumbered)


    This is the link for the full build on the ESO builder tool so you can check it out:
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoB...



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIaJHXSZMcE&amp;t=10s&amp;ab_channel=BlacksheepPvP

    Every time some one blocks my toppling charge they negate the hrothgar, running immovable pots so you can't be stunned...Hrothgar won't bother you.

    I think people just get so used to a play style their worlds get turned upside down over night and ... yea here we are.
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