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Crushing Weapon should have a 4 sec duration

Marcus_Aurelius
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Crushing Weapon is currently not usable in PvP due to it' very short duration, people move around all the time and it often expires before you can hit your opponent.
Please extend its duration to 4secs like Crystal Weapons, it does not make any sense that it has half duration of a very similar skill.

If you do this maybe some stam class will move away from dizzy in PvP. I would certainly do that, tired of the 5 sec delay it taketo dizzy to fire in Cyrolag.
  • ResidentContrarian
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    No.

    But thanks for making the case for crystal weapons to get nerfed, I am sure many stam sorcs will love it.

    And let's be honest, you wouldn''t move away from dizzy, you'd just use it with dizzy like crystal weapon.

    By the way, crushing weapon heals you and restores stam back when you fail to use it -- two things not present on crystal weapon which is likely part of the reason there is a disparity between both skills. The timing is balancing risk-reward there, at least following ZOS logic...
  • Ippokrates
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    No.

    But thanks for making the case for crystal weapons to get nerfed, I am sure many stam sorcs will love it.

    And let's be honest, you wouldn''t move away from dizzy, you'd just use it with dizzy like crystal weapon.

    By the way, crushing weapon heals you and restores stam back when you fail to use it -- two things not present on crystal weapon which is likely part of the reason there is a disparity between both skills. The timing is balancing risk-reward there, at least following ZOS logic...

    They changed that skill. It is no longer healing but giving you major breach (stam morph) or status effect (mag morph).

    But no, it is work good as it is. Extend duration and we will all drown in comboverse ^^
    Edited by Ippokrates on September 3, 2021 8:59AM
  • Marcus_Aurelius
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    No.

    But thanks for making the case for crystal weapons to get nerfed, I am sure many stam sorcs will love it.

    And let's be honest, you wouldn''t move away from dizzy, you'd just use it with dizzy like crystal weapon.

    By the way, crushing weapon heals you and restores stam back when you fail to use it -- two things not present on crystal weapon which is likely part of the reason there is a disparity between both skills. The timing is balancing risk-reward there, at least following ZOS logic...

    Where I asked to nerf Crystal? I also play a stamsorc that uses Crystal so i would never ask to nerf that.
    i just asked to increase the duration of Crushing because it is unusable in PvP

    Crushing does not heal, that was the old version, it applyes major breach but does less damage then Crystal.
    And I love people that tell you are a liar, very nice of you.
    The truth is that I love DW but no good spammable in it and many classes don't have a good class spammable.
    Edited by Marcus_Aurelius on September 3, 2021 10:00AM
  • Marcus_Aurelius
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    But no, it is work good as it is. Extend duration and we will all drown in comboverse ^^

    Yeah, it's so good that I don't remeber ever seeing it on a death recap.
    Soo good that pratically no one uses it.

  • Kaelthorn_Nightbloom
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    The low damage and short duration on Major Breach is the real problem.
    PC NA
  • ResidentContrarian
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    No.

    But thanks for making the case for crystal weapons to get nerfed, I am sure many stam sorcs will love it.

    And let's be honest, you wouldn''t move away from dizzy, you'd just use it with dizzy like crystal weapon.

    By the way, crushing weapon heals you and restores stam back when you fail to use it -- two things not present on crystal weapon which is likely part of the reason there is a disparity between both skills. The timing is balancing risk-reward there, at least following ZOS logic...

    They changed that skill. It is no longer healing but giving you major breach (stam morph) or status effect (mag morph).

    But no, it is work good as it is. Extend duration and we will all drown in comboverse ^^

    It give breach now? I have to use on my hybrid then ;)
    No.

    But thanks for making the case for crystal weapons to get nerfed, I am sure many stam sorcs will love it.

    And let's be honest, you wouldn''t move away from dizzy, you'd just use it with dizzy like crystal weapon.

    By the way, crushing weapon heals you and restores stam back when you fail to use it -- two things not present on crystal weapon which is likely part of the reason there is a disparity between both skills. The timing is balancing risk-reward there, at least following ZOS logic...

    Where I asked to nerf Crystal? I also play a stamsorc that uses Crystal so i would never ask to nerf that.
    i just asked to increase the duration of Crushing because it is unusable in PvP

    Crushing does not heal, that was the old version, it applyes major breach but does less damage then Crystal.
    And I love people that tell you are a liar, very nice of you.
    The truth is that I love DW but no good spammable in it and many classes don't have a good class spammable.

    You don't get it do you? If that skill had a duration increase and was stackable with crystal weapon and all the sets in the game that work off of light and/or medium attacks, then there is no way that ZOS would leave either skill alone without a nerf once the duration increase is done.

    The skill is not really a spammable in the sense of surprise attack, jabs, dizzy, bloodthirst, etc. but instead a skill that can be combined with those to increase overall damage in a certain time window. Know what that sounds like? A burst damage skill and not a spammable. Despite what anyone says, it's used to increase burst damage in PvP.

    Now, considering burst damage is already out of control, you want ZOS to increase burst damage potential even more so you could supposedly unslot a skill that would synergize greatly with the supposed skill you would swap it out with?

    The current time window is balanced with that in mind. And as for why stamsorc crystal weapons is longer than a general skill, why don't we start comparing stam sorc class kit v. all the other classes when it comes to skills? The answer then becomes quite clear -- they don't have much else!
  • Marcus_Aurelius
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    You don't get it do you? If that skill had a duration increase and was stackable with crystal weapon and all the sets in the game that work off of light and/or medium attacks, then there is no way that ZOS would leave either skill alone without a nerf once the duration increase is done.

    And you don't get that no one use it because it is unusable.
    2 secs in a laggy environment is just a joke
    So what are you suggesting to make it a valid option? i'm open to ideas.
    And please don't tell that lag is not a valid reason, lag will never go away from Cyro so we have to take it in account.

  • Ippokrates
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    But no, it is work good as it is. Extend duration and we will all drown in comboverse ^^

    Yeah, it's so good that I don't remeber ever seeing it on a death recap.
    Soo good that pratically no one uses it.

    Yeah, i was using it on my stamsorc, with Crystal & Scattering Shot. Very funny combo ^^

    Plus I have seen it on death recap few times and currently i am not doing pvp much.
    Edited by Ippokrates on September 3, 2021 12:56PM
  • robpr
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    What Crushing Weapon should do is to remove the attacker from stealth. It's the only combo you cannot get ready to unless you run detect 24/7
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