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too much visual clutter

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Peritye
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Could we have an option to disable these visual stuff? I get its magicka but I cant even see anything while playing the game because blocking makes a magical shield and then aargh its so ugly and annoying and pointless.
  • Grandchamp1989
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    I really, really agree with this. it also tanks performance.

    I really wish we could disable the visuals of damage dealing spells that don't provide a synergy.

    I also wish I could tone my own effects down by quite a bit...
  • Peritye
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    I have mechanical acuity, so every 20 seconds im blue and then I have magickal orb shields, and flying rocks around me, and I become a giant heart and invisible and its so ugly and pointless and unimersive and annoying. like common man, a simple shine would be better, but thats too much.#oh but what about pvp???# yeah thats why these things should all be TOGGLEABLE, like blocking shouldnt show a giant shield. That should be able to disable too.
  • MirandaSharp
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    If they could just to something about the daedroths blocking my view that's good enough for me.. Wish they'd all be translucent like the selene bear or something.
  • zelaminator
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    Only if it's a player toggle.. other people could be relying on the visual information.. If you don't want to see it, fine.. but you should not be able to hide your effects from others
  • N3CR01
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    MirandaSharp wrote: »
    If they could just to something about the daedroths blocking my view that's good enough for me.. Wish they'd all be translucent like the selene bear or something.

    All kindsa yep.
    Was tanking earlier and that stupid thing kept standing between me and the boss so I couldn't see anything.
  • Peritye
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    zelaminator wrote: »
    Only if it's a player toggle.. other people could be relying on the visual information.. If you don't want to see it, fine.. but you should not be able to hide your effects from others

    yes thats literally what I said
  • matterandstuff
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    Yeah, this would be great.

    I recently skilled up to the point where I can solo some group dungeons, and it's doing wonders for my skills because I can actually see the cues to look for learn how to react more quickly to mechanics in the absence of 30000 visual effects going off at once.
  • zelaminator
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    Peritye wrote: »
    zelaminator wrote: »
    Only if it's a player toggle.. other people could be relying on the visual information.. If you don't want to see it, fine.. but you should not be able to hide your effects from others

    yes thats literally what I said

    You said toggle yes.. but I felt the need to specify it a bit.. you didn't say whether you wanted it just for yourself, for others, or some third thing :smile:
  • Darkstorne
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    I think it's a big reason why the game isn't very popular on streaming sites too. The speed of animations, coupled with the broken animation cancelling jank, and every skill firing a rainbow particle explosion even if you're just trying to play as a stamina based warrior, makes it a very visually messy game in dungeons and trials:

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    I mean, even with the UI switched off.. it's so damn messy. And this is the kind of thing most people won't notice while playing because they're focused on their role. But when you're just an observer it immediately stands out as hideous.
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  • zelaminator
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    Darkstorne wrote: »
    I think it's a big reason why the game isn't very popular on streaming sites too. The speed of animations, coupled with the broken animation cancelling jank, and every skill firing a rainbow particle explosion even if you're just trying to play as a stamina based warrior, makes it a very visually messy game in dungeons and trials:

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    I mean, even with the UI switched off.. it's so damn messy. And this is the kind of thing most people won't notice while playing because they're focused on their role. But when you're just an observer it immediately stands out as hideous.
    eso-trials-hrc-ra-kotu.png

    Well, the game should be made for players, not spectators :smile: but yes, a personal "hide effects" option would be interesting
  • Sarannah
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    I'm all for being able to turn off(or full on remove) some major visual effects. Atleast in PvE this should be an option. Personally I would mostly want this because of hatchling's shell, it is so intrusive and serves no purpose as everyone can see the shield on our healthbar already.
  • Hlaaluna
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    I would love to be able to turn off the effect when doing dungeons. I hate it when a team member is taking a dirt nap and you can't find their corpse to wake them up.
  • Darkstorne
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    zelaminator wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    I think it's a big reason why the game isn't very popular on streaming sites too. The speed of animations, coupled with the broken animation cancelling jank, and every skill firing a rainbow particle explosion even if you're just trying to play as a stamina based warrior, makes it a very visually messy game in dungeons and trials:

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    I mean, even with the UI switched off.. it's so damn messy. And this is the kind of thing most people won't notice while playing because they're focused on their role. But when you're just an observer it immediately stands out as hideous.
    eso-trials-hrc-ra-kotu.png

    Well, the game should be made for players, not spectators :smile: but yes, a personal "hide effects" option would be interesting
    Come on, let's not pretend the two are mutually exclusive. ESO suffers from spell effect diarrhoea :tongue: It's pretty much impossible to play as a traditional warrior archetype who doesn't blast spell effects from every orifice in this game.
  • zelaminator
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    Darkstorne wrote: »
    zelaminator wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    I think it's a big reason why the game isn't very popular on streaming sites too. The speed of animations, coupled with the broken animation cancelling jank, and every skill firing a rainbow particle explosion even if you're just trying to play as a stamina based warrior, makes it a very visually messy game in dungeons and trials:

    maxresdefault.jpg
    maxresdefault.jpg

    I mean, even with the UI switched off.. it's so damn messy. And this is the kind of thing most people won't notice while playing because they're focused on their role. But when you're just an observer it immediately stands out as hideous.
    eso-trials-hrc-ra-kotu.png

    Well, the game should be made for players, not spectators :smile: but yes, a personal "hide effects" option would be interesting
    Come on, let's not pretend the two are mutually exclusive. ESO suffers from spell effect diarrhoea :tongue: It's pretty much impossible to play as a traditional warrior archetype who doesn't blast spell effects from every orifice in this game.

    I never said that they were.. but changes made on the premise of "it's not fun to watch this on a stream", is not really viable
  • Coatmagic
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    Been beating on this dead horse for years.

    The code apparently won't allow the option for us to turn off all this 'noise'.

    There are many, many complaints about this going back to the start.

    There is not even a way to dull down the effects as they are somehow on top of everything else ie
    you can set your screen to dull grey but all those shiny effects are right on top filling the visual space and blinding as ever.

    *sigh*
  • Ei8htba11
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    You might find that without the effects, the combat animations would stand out like a sore thumb. As much as I like ESO, there are a lot of lacklustre/dated animations in the game that would gain center stage without those effects.
  • Darkstorne
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    zelaminator wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    zelaminator wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    I think it's a big reason why the game isn't very popular on streaming sites too. The speed of animations, coupled with the broken animation cancelling jank, and every skill firing a rainbow particle explosion even if you're just trying to play as a stamina based warrior, makes it a very visually messy game in dungeons and trials:

    maxresdefault.jpg
    maxresdefault.jpg

    I mean, even with the UI switched off.. it's so damn messy. And this is the kind of thing most people won't notice while playing because they're focused on their role. But when you're just an observer it immediately stands out as hideous.
    eso-trials-hrc-ra-kotu.png

    Well, the game should be made for players, not spectators :smile: but yes, a personal "hide effects" option would be interesting
    Come on, let's not pretend the two are mutually exclusive. ESO suffers from spell effect diarrhoea :tongue: It's pretty much impossible to play as a traditional warrior archetype who doesn't blast spell effects from every orifice in this game.

    I never said that they were.. but changes made on the premise of "it's not fun to watch this on a stream", is not really viable
    If this was 2008, sure :tongue: Streaming is ludicrously popular today, and a huge avenue for marketing a game. ZOS are specifically targeting it this year with their "the world plays ESO" marketing strategy, because they know it's a weak point for the game right now. For whatever reason, ESO has never clicked with streaming audiences, and I imagine a big part of that is how much visual noise there is in this game, especially in group content like dungeons/trials/pvp which are the parts of MMOs most likely to be watched online. Cleaning up visual effects would improve the game for players and help make it more readable for viewers.

    Just a pipe dream though. I don't think ZOS are changing anything about the animations at this stage of the game. It will just be a lesson learned for their next MMO.
  • zelaminator
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    Call me old fashioned, but I really don't care for streaming.. go play the game instead of watching it.. so no, I don't think changes should be made because someone don't like looking at it from the outside
  • Slimebrow
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    In my opinion I think they need to tone down some of particle and glow effects of abilities and maybe make them more solid.

    IMO this is the reason why a warrior or a ranger type class with solid abilities would have been better for some of the professions because in ESO everyone plays essentially a mage so everyone is casting some form of visual spell. I am not surprised that this exists because of it.
    Edited by Slimebrow on August 31, 2021 10:57AM
  • Darkstorne
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    zelaminator wrote: »
    Call me old fashioned, but I really don't care for streaming.. go play the game instead of watching it.. so no, I don't think changes should be made because someone don't like looking at it from the outside

    I'm not going to call you anything. I don't enjoy watching streams either :smile: But we do need to recognize how important streaming is for the industry today, how much extra interest it generates for a game, and how that leads to a healthier playerbase that we all benefit from. Otherwise that's like saying "I personally don't like marketing, so I don't think ZOS should bother marketing their game."
  • Peritye
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    zelaminator wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    I think it's a big reason why the game isn't very popular on streaming sites too. The speed of animations, coupled with the broken animation cancelling jank, and every skill firing a rainbow particle explosion even if you're just trying to play as a stamina based warrior, makes it a very visually messy game in dungeons and trials:

    maxresdefault.jpg
    maxresdefault.jpg

    I mean, even with the UI switched off.. it's so damn messy. And this is the kind of thing most people won't notice while playing because they're focused on their role. But when you're just an observer it immediately stands out as hideous.
    eso-trials-hrc-ra-kotu.png

    Well, the game should be made for players, not spectators :smile: but yes, a personal "hide effects" option would be interesting

    no because some players like to actually see the thing they are fighting :D
  • Peritye
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    zelaminator wrote: »
    Call me old fashioned, but I really don't care for streaming.. go play the game instead of watching it.. so no, I don't think changes should be made because someone don't like looking at it from the outside

    i dont like looking at it from the INSIDE I never said anything about streaming. I want to be a warrior, not a magical unicorn shooting rainbows.
  • LyricsEcho
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    You can always turn off ally effects, turn down particles and if you are a pc player you can turn off all players with add ons. I think you have options for your visual plight.
  • Pevey
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    It’s not just the amount of effects, it’s also the design of the effects. ESO seems unique in the way its effects obscure what is going on. The smoke, blur, blinding lights... these are not necessary just to give a visual clue of a skill. Zos could make it much cleaner.
    Edited by Pevey on August 31, 2021 1:03PM
  • zelaminator
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    Peritye wrote: »
    zelaminator wrote: »
    Darkstorne wrote: »
    I think it's a big reason why the game isn't very popular on streaming sites too. The speed of animations, coupled with the broken animation cancelling jank, and every skill firing a rainbow particle explosion even if you're just trying to play as a stamina based warrior, makes it a very visually messy game in dungeons and trials:

    maxresdefault.jpg
    maxresdefault.jpg

    I mean, even with the UI switched off.. it's so damn messy. And this is the kind of thing most people won't notice while playing because they're focused on their role. But when you're just an observer it immediately stands out as hideous.
    eso-trials-hrc-ra-kotu.png

    Well, the game should be made for players, not spectators :smile: but yes, a personal "hide effects" option would be interesting

    no because some players like to actually see the thing they are fighting :D

    And that us why I said that it should only count for THAT PLAYER.. so they can be invisible to that person only.. other people can see theirs and his, but he can't.. problem fixed for the person
    Peritye wrote: »
    zelaminator wrote: »
    Call me old fashioned, but I really don't care for streaming.. go play the game instead of watching it.. so no, I don't think changes should be made because someone don't like looking at it from the outside

    i dont like looking at it from the INSIDE I never said anything about streaming. I want to be a warrior, not a magical unicorn shooting rainbows.

    Well, check what I responded too
    Edited by zelaminator on August 31, 2021 1:12PM
  • Sephyr
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    Don't worry, @Peritye, most who actually read your post understood what you actually meant with an 'option', which by default implies 'optional' toggle.

    You've my vote. ;)
  • zelaminator
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    Sephyr wrote: »
    Don't worry, @Peritye, most who actually read your post understood what you actually meant with an 'option', which by default implies 'optional' toggle.

    You've my vote. ;)

    And it would be fine, we just need to agree on what it effects
  • Jaclynn
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    Yep...Agree'd... What is that? >:) I'm stuck on something... o:) where's the healer? Where's the secret thing I have to step on? :'( Where's the safety bubble? B) I can't see........... no mater what viewpoint I use.
    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."

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  • DMuehlhausen
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    MirandaSharp wrote: »
    If they could just to something about the daedroths blocking my view that's good enough for me.. Wish they'd all be translucent like the selene bear or something.

    They just need to make it so Jeff spawns and stays behind the target instead of getting in front of it.
  • buttaface
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    Would love to have a class-specific toggle:

    1. No teaming with pet sorcs.
    2. No teaming with bear wardens.

    If either class puts those skills on their bar during a mission to bypass, instant free leave team button with no penalty.

    Would instantly get rid of 80% of poor play/bad play Pugging problems I experience in ESO.

    One can only dream.
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