I wear all-Impen armor in PvE. Works for me.

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Funny how PvP players try to compare PvP to PvE 😁

You can literally farm all overland content naked, on the other hand going to IC for a lead from a world boss and getting ganked by opposing factions. You respawn and rush back to boss only to find you didn't qualify for the drop.

This can happen over and over and can seriously make the pve player just rage quit Now I get that IC is a PvP zone but if everyone is attacking a world boss and not eachother why would say 4 DC faction players turn on another faction player so they don't get the drop?

Wait until the boss is dead and then kill them,

Upper Craglorn dailies are soloable at level 6 in a trash gear.

molecule wrote: »

You all have an advantage with your fancy divines, PVPers only have Impen which is uselss outside PVP. Or are you suggesting that i should actually use gear suitable to the environment i'm in ?

You all group up and drop ultis on a boss to kill it in 1 second. Thats totally unfair Ganking the WB.

Why do PVPers have to suffer this totally unfair way to get an overland ticket.

And dont start me on using streak to get to nodes first.

/s

Fine piece of sarcasm

molecule wrote: »

You all have an advantage with your fancy divines, PVPers only have Impen which is uselss outside PVP. Or are you suggesting that i should actually use gear suitable to the environment i'm in ?

You all group up and drop ultis on a boss to kill it in 1 second. Thats totally unfair Ganking the WB.

Why do PVPers have to suffer this totally unfair way to get an overland ticket.

And dont start me on using streak to get to nodes first.

/s

Serious reply to your sarcasm:

PvE is competitive in terms of getting in hits on some bosses. But you can do the PvE parts (if any) of every ESO event without being a top contributor to killing those bosses. Also, even with weak gear you can win the competitions anyway (just drop ultimates at the right time).

Your implied analogy to PvPers griefing PvE questers in Imperial City is very, very weak.

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I wear all-Impen armor in PvE. Works for me.

IDK if this is sarcasm, but if it's not PvE enemies can't crit, so using armor with the Impen trait is almost entirely useless and you're better off running literally any other trait.

It's not sarcasm, and I'm aware that PvE enemies can't do critical damage.

I don't care about best-in-slot, or most-efficient-tool-available, or minimizing-maximizing.

Impenetrable armor takes less durability loss, so I don't have to repair it as often.

People brag (or gripe, depending on your point of view) about how overland PvE is so easy that they can beat everything without even wearing any armor at all, so if that's really true then I don't see what's so awful about wearing Impenetrable armor for overland.

And when I go to Cyrodiil or the Imperial City I don't need to worry about changing armor.

So-- it works for me.

Cool-- just making sure you were aware. I put on Impen armor when I was new to the game for vet Frostvault and wondered why it didn't seem to DO anything. Didn't want someone to make the same mistake that I did

Well, I used to wear either Reinforced or Infused, or a combination of the two.

But when I started spending more time in both Cyrodiil and the Imperial City I decided to switch to Impenetrable.

EF321 wrote: »

BazOfWar wrote: »

You can literally farm all overland content naked, on the other hand going to IC for a lead from a world boss and getting ganked by opposing factions.

People really should stop calling every single one of their deaths "a gank". If you were farming world boss in Imperil City, you were absolutely, surely, 100% not ganked.

To be fair, if you walk into Imperial City on a typical PVE build for a damage dealer, many of your deaths are going to be in a short burst of damage, sometimes before you've even properly registered that you were in danger, and with no really opportunity to fight back in a meaningful way.

Source: been there, done that.

Now, admittedly, a large part of the reason you'll die that quickly is because a PVE damage dealer build has very low resistances and less than 25k health, when PVPers are regularly fighting opponents with high resistances and more than 25k health.

And another portion of why you'll die before you realize the danger is that most PVPers are used to dealing with fellow PVPers who are constantly on alert, often using detect pots, and are ready to react to a gank attempt. PVE players who aren't using any form of detection or who are focusing on their goal or the fight in front of them instead of keeping one eye on their surroundings are an easy target.

So in many ways, I think players who want to avoid quick and brutal deaths in Imperial City would do well to prepare with more than a PVE damage dealer build.

But I can certainly see where the finer points of ganking vs fighting eludes the PVEer who's dead in a couple seconds from an attack they didn't meaningfully respond to.

Divines over impen does not make an insurmountable difference as it is a player's skill that has a much more significant effect on how much damage someone does. We all have ultimate as well.

I often do these dailies solo and do not seem to have the issue OP suggests they have if they are serious about having an issue with this.

markulrich1966 wrote: »

there is another difference.

PVP players enter PVE regularily, e.g. to farm gear, especially monstersets. They play so often PVE, that most have set up an own optimized PVE toon.

The event is different.
The ones complaining are not cp1500 players like me, as I can burn down a ganker pretty well with my divines armor.

The ones complaining are mainly lower cp level players, who just want to finish a daily ticket, nothing more. For the short duration of such an event, it is overkill to set up an extra PVP character, especially if you don't have the required resources (low-CP, no crafting skills yet).

But exactly this clientele is the favourite prey for gankers during events, as several comments show (have lately seen several on facebook).

So you have a completely different setting, making a comparison like from the OP useless.

If the difference is that PVP players enter PVE zones regularly and thus are prepared for PVE-themed events...

Then perhaps it suggests that PVE players should consider entering PvPvE zones regularly, or at least often enough to be somewhat prepared for events that feature PVP.

After all, there's Below 50 Cyrodiil and Below 50 Battlegrounds for low level players, and No CP options for low CP players. There are opportunities for low level and low CP PVE players to practice and prepare...if they want to. It's their choice to do so or not. Most don't, so I'm not sure I can buy that "PVE players aren't prepared for PvPvE events" is a fact of life so much as it is a player choice to avoid PVP activities except when the event rewards are attractive enough.

With Midyear Mayhem and Imperial City, it's not really necessary to make a PVP character in order to get event tickets. It's not even necessary to have a stealthy character - I've done both on non-stealthy PVE builds. But for players who want to get the rest of the event rewards such as the MYM achievements or the IC bosses loot, then it's only sensible to prepare for the content.

Ahah, that a good one actually