Maintenance for the week of September 8:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – September 8
• PC/Mac: EU megaserver for maintenance – September 9, 22:00 UTC (6:00PM EDT) - September 10, 16:00 UTC (12:00PM EDT) https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/682784
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – September 8
• PC/Mac: EU megaserver for maintenance – September 9, 22:00 UTC (6:00PM EDT) - September 10, 16:00 UTC (12:00PM EDT) https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/682784
Don't forget to try multi-threaded rendering!
-
karmamule✭✭✭Only had time to quickly log in and check it out. I have an rtx 3080 paired with 10900k (slightly overclocked.) Framerates at 4k/max have always been very good in the wilderness but can slow down in crowded cities as low as 60 to 70fps if there are lots of players around.
I enabled multithreaded rendering and I guess I was CPU bound because now in a crowded city I'm getting more like 90 fps even w/lots of players around, so at first glance this is looking like a VERY beneficial update for me!5 -
LashanW✭✭✭✭✭
✭Definitely noticed the improvement. Nearly 100fps in busy towns in 1080p all settings maxxed out (including view distance). Never thought I'd see a performance improvement like this from ZoS
CPU - Core i5 9600K
GPU - RTX 3060Ti---No longer active in ESO---
Platform: PC-EU
CP: 2500+Trial Achievements
Godslayer, Gryphon Heart, Tick-Tock Tormentor, Immortal Redeemer, Dro-m'Athra Destroyer, vMoL no death
Arena Achievements
vMA Flawless, vVH Spirit Slayer
DLC Dungeon Trifectas
Scalecaller Peak, Fang Lair, Depths of Malatar, Icereach2 -
N3CR01✭✭✭✭You might have to turn on the option in the game files if it turns back off when you restart. Go to documents > The Elder Scrolls Online and click UserSettings and look for RENDER_THREAD, change the 0 next to it to 1. Exit out and save when it asks you to save. Retry and see if that works. If it doesn't, do it again and this time at the end right click UserSettings and go down and check the box that says Read Only. You might have to uncheck it before being able to edit it like I said.
No such option in my usersettings for live.
Its in the usersettings for PTS though.
Gotta feeling I'm gonna have to delete and reinstall the game.
0 -
perfiction✭✭✭✭✭Laptop with Intel i5-8300h and nVidia 1050. FPS is more stable, less drops (no more slideshows during trials), but there are 3 issues I noticed:
- ingame fps limit doesn't work on loading screens (it was mentioned in patch notes so it's fine I guess, ZOS wanted to be like New World)
- fps limit in nVidia control panel doesn't work when you're alt-tabbed out of the game to the desktop
- nVidia GPU often crashes if you alt-tab during loading screen (GPU utilization drops to 0, game freezes, trying to force close the game from task manager results in DRIVER_POWER_STATE_FAILURE BSOD). This is an issue only when using "optimal performance" power plan for GPU (which drops GPU clocks when the utilization is low). Workaround is to switch GPU power plan to "maximum performance" (which results in max clocks at all times, so it's not too great for laptops). Notice it's an nVidia Optimus thing so there may be power management issue in the drivers which is exposed only with MTR enabled.
Edited by perfiction on August 23, 2021 7:28PM3 -
tripp✭✭✭It's absolutely mindblowing. On ultra and 100 view distance I had 20-30 fps in Vivec's crafting area. Post patch - 70-90.
Right, and my setup isn't even that great. i7 4790k 4.4 GHz, RX580 GTS XXX OC 8GB.Edited by tripp on August 23, 2021 6:32PMbig, green, buff, but surprisingly not the Hulk4 -
Chips_Ahoy✭✭✭✭✭Chips_Ahoy wrote: »PurpleScroll wrote: »Just a PSA to everyone to remember to try out the multi-threaded rendering setting under Video - make sure to restart your game when you've enabled it.
I haven't experienced any issues with it yet, but at 1080p with settings maxed out I was getting 50 fps at the crafting stations in Vivec with A LOT of players in view. The performance increase is simply stunning, and my system isn't even high-end - AMD Ryzen 1500X, NVIDIA 1050 Ti.
what does PSA mean?
Public Service Announcement, I assume.
I see, I wonder what they will do with the 2 seconds they save doing that?
Anyway, thanks for the clarification and thanks for the info, @PurpleScroll
On my pc, I didn't notice much difference, although I have modified the UserSettings.txt file, maybe that's the reason, I only notice faster loading times, 1-3 seconds, incredible.
but on my laptop, where I use my mule account for things.
the difference is remarkable, and it's a very old laptop, i5 3474u intel graphics.Edited by Chips_Ahoy on August 23, 2021 6:49PM0 -
Sordidfairytale✭✭✭✭✭Huge performance boost. CPU temps are extra cool now too. Thank you to @ZOS_AlexTardif and the multi-thread team.
If you are into addons you can use Votan's Advanced Settings addon to add some functionality in game such as adjusting your FPS on the fly. YMMV.The Vegemite Knight
"if the skeleton kills you, your dps is too low." ~STEVIL
The Elder World of WarScrollCraft Online ~joaaocaampos4 -
scorpius2k1✭✭✭✭✭
✭On 3 PC's, one is new and the other two are much older hardware. Seeing increases in performance across the board, especially in more graphically demanding situations. It may just be me, but framerate also seems a bit more stable with or without the setting on. Guessing the graphics stack may have had several improvements with this update?
Hopefully if stability proves to be good, the new MTR setting becomes enabled by default next patch for many players new and existing that will likely not even turn this on (or even know about it) which could potentially improve their entire game experience all around.
+1 on this being a great performance improvement in many areas, a nice surprise to see. Keep this kind of stuff up ZoS!
@ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_AlexTardif @ZOS_GinaBruno🌎 PC/NA
🐧 Linux (Arch)
🧑💻 ESO Addon Dev
⚔️ Stamplar | Magplar | Stamcro | Magsorc | Magcro Healer3 -
valentaeSoul ShrivenI've noticed a significant difference since turning it on, probably my favorite part of the new patch!Edited by valentae on August 23, 2021 9:40PM3 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You might have to turn on the option in the game files if it turns back off when you restart. Go to documents > The Elder Scrolls Online and click UserSettings and look for RENDER_THREAD, change the 0 next to it to 1. Exit out and save when it asks you to save. Retry and see if that works. If it doesn't, do it again and this time at the end right click UserSettings and go down and check the box that says Read Only. You might have to uncheck it before being able to edit it like I said.
No such option in my usersettings for live.
Its in the usersettings for PTS though.
Gotta feeling I'm gonna have to delete and reinstall the game.
It wasn't in my user settings file either. I added SET RENDER_THREAD "1" in the file (after unchecking Read Only in Properties), saved the file, rechecked Read Only, and restarted the game. It's now showing as ON in the Video Settings menu. However, as someone else noted, I'm now seeing the chapter video every time I start the game. Anyone know how to disable that?0 -
Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »You might have to turn on the option in the game files if it turns back off when you restart. Go to documents > The Elder Scrolls Online and click UserSettings and look for RENDER_THREAD, change the 0 next to it to 1. Exit out and save when it asks you to save. Retry and see if that works. If it doesn't, do it again and this time at the end right click UserSettings and go down and check the box that says Read Only. You might have to uncheck it before being able to edit it like I said.
No such option in my usersettings for live.
Its in the usersettings for PTS though.
Gotta feeling I'm gonna have to delete and reinstall the game.
It wasn't in my user settings file either. I added SET RENDER_THREAD "1" in the file (after unchecking Read Only in Properties), saved the file, rechecked Read Only, and restarted the game. It's now showing as ON in the Video Settings menu. However, as someone else noted, I'm now seeing the chapter video every time I start the game. Anyone know how to disable that?
I would delete your ini file and let the game generate a new one. For some reason your game might have it set to read only. The file was to be replaced with this patch.1 -
SeaGtGruff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It didn't seem to make any difference for me, but my computer has integrated graphics rather than a Ryzen or Nvidia GPU.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Red_Feather wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »You might have to turn on the option in the game files if it turns back off when you restart. Go to documents > The Elder Scrolls Online and click UserSettings and look for RENDER_THREAD, change the 0 next to it to 1. Exit out and save when it asks you to save. Retry and see if that works. If it doesn't, do it again and this time at the end right click UserSettings and go down and check the box that says Read Only. You might have to uncheck it before being able to edit it like I said.
No such option in my usersettings for live.
Its in the usersettings for PTS though.
Gotta feeling I'm gonna have to delete and reinstall the game.
It wasn't in my user settings file either. I added SET RENDER_THREAD "1" in the file (after unchecking Read Only in Properties), saved the file, rechecked Read Only, and restarted the game. It's now showing as ON in the Video Settings menu. However, as someone else noted, I'm now seeing the chapter video every time I start the game. Anyone know how to disable that?
I would delete your ini file and let the game generate a new one. For some reason your game might have it set to read only. The file was to be replaced with this patch.
My user settings file has been set read only from day one of game install. I can try that (um.... do you mean UserSettings.txt? I don't see an .ini file for the game - just for crash reporter and d3dx....) and see what happens, though I'll save the current one as there are a few other tweaks in it I want to keep.0 -
N3CR01✭✭✭✭Red_Feather wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »You might have to turn on the option in the game files if it turns back off when you restart. Go to documents > The Elder Scrolls Online and click UserSettings and look for RENDER_THREAD, change the 0 next to it to 1. Exit out and save when it asks you to save. Retry and see if that works. If it doesn't, do it again and this time at the end right click UserSettings and go down and check the box that says Read Only. You might have to uncheck it before being able to edit it like I said.
No such option in my usersettings for live.
Its in the usersettings for PTS though.
Gotta feeling I'm gonna have to delete and reinstall the game.
It wasn't in my user settings file either. I added SET RENDER_THREAD "1" in the file (after unchecking Read Only in Properties), saved the file, rechecked Read Only, and restarted the game. It's now showing as ON in the Video Settings menu. However, as someone else noted, I'm now seeing the chapter video every time I start the game. Anyone know how to disable that?
I would delete your ini file and let the game generate a new one. For some reason your game might have it set to read only. The file was to be replaced with this patch.
It wasn't set to read only, I checked that.
I tried deleting the file and the game didn't even generate a new file.
I've uninstalled the game now and will download again over night and try it out tomorrow. Hopefully that'll fix the problem.
0 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Red_Feather wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »You might have to turn on the option in the game files if it turns back off when you restart. Go to documents > The Elder Scrolls Online and click UserSettings and look for RENDER_THREAD, change the 0 next to it to 1. Exit out and save when it asks you to save. Retry and see if that works. If it doesn't, do it again and this time at the end right click UserSettings and go down and check the box that says Read Only. You might have to uncheck it before being able to edit it like I said.
No such option in my usersettings for live.
Its in the usersettings for PTS though.
Gotta feeling I'm gonna have to delete and reinstall the game.
It wasn't in my user settings file either. I added SET RENDER_THREAD "1" in the file (after unchecking Read Only in Properties), saved the file, rechecked Read Only, and restarted the game. It's now showing as ON in the Video Settings menu. However, as someone else noted, I'm now seeing the chapter video every time I start the game. Anyone know how to disable that?
I would delete your ini file and let the game generate a new one. For some reason your game might have it set to read only. The file was to be replaced with this patch.
My user settings file has been set read only from day one of game install. I can try that (um.... do you mean UserSettings.txt? I don't see an .ini file for the game - just for crash reporter and d3dx....) and see what happens, though I'll save the current one as there are a few other tweaks in it I want to keep.
Having your usersettings set to read only means any change you make to settings can never be saved. That is probably also why this new setting keeps getting removed from your file.
There are times when you would want to set it to Read Only, like if you want to keep a setting outside of the games available range for that setting since the game will often default to a standard value in such a case but those situations are rare.
edit: Also note, settings are saved to the usersettings file only upon successfully exiting the game. Alt-F4 or otherwise terminating the game will cause all of your in-game changes to be lost.Edited by danno8 on August 23, 2021 11:19PM0 -
LadyLethalla✭✭✭✭✭
✭Is it worth using this setting on a PC that's only 2 months old? My settings are all on high (with one on Ultra) anyway.x-TallyCat-x // PC EU DC - For the Covenant! // ESO Platinum trophy - 16th May 2017.
Melbourne Australia - the land of Potato Internet.WTB ESO OCEANIC SERVER0 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Would have been nice if the patch notes mentioned not everyone is getting this setting. /sighEdited by BlueRaven on August 24, 2021 12:16AM0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Red_Feather wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »You might have to turn on the option in the game files if it turns back off when you restart. Go to documents > The Elder Scrolls Online and click UserSettings and look for RENDER_THREAD, change the 0 next to it to 1. Exit out and save when it asks you to save. Retry and see if that works. If it doesn't, do it again and this time at the end right click UserSettings and go down and check the box that says Read Only. You might have to uncheck it before being able to edit it like I said.
No such option in my usersettings for live.
Its in the usersettings for PTS though.
Gotta feeling I'm gonna have to delete and reinstall the game.
It wasn't in my user settings file either. I added SET RENDER_THREAD "1" in the file (after unchecking Read Only in Properties), saved the file, rechecked Read Only, and restarted the game. It's now showing as ON in the Video Settings menu. However, as someone else noted, I'm now seeing the chapter video every time I start the game. Anyone know how to disable that?
I would delete your ini file and let the game generate a new one. For some reason your game might have it set to read only. The file was to be replaced with this patch.
My user settings file has been set read only from day one of game install. I can try that (um.... do you mean UserSettings.txt? I don't see an .ini file for the game - just for crash reporter and d3dx....) and see what happens, though I'll save the current one as there are a few other tweaks in it I want to keep.
Having your usersettings set to read only means any change you make to settings can never be saved. That is probably also why this new setting keeps getting removed from your file.
There are times when you would want to set it to Read Only, like if you want to keep a setting outside of the games available range for that setting since the game will often default to a standard value in such a case but those situations are rare.
edit: Also note, settings are saved to the usersettings file only upon successfully exiting the game. Alt-F4 or otherwise terminating the game will cause all of your in-game changes to be lost.
I never exit "abnormally". And I'm not kidding when I say the file has been set read only since I first installed the game. Yes, when I've edited the file I've unset read only, made the change, saved the file, then reset read only (since that was how it arrived out of the tin as it were).
The changes I've made are saved - because I've unset the file as read only, made the changes, saved the file, then reset read only.
I've been into the game four times since I added the line about threading. It's still there, and the vid settings are showing that threading is on, which it wasn't before I added the line to the file. And my FPS is better by about 20%, most likely because of that change.
And perhaps you can tell me how to make the chapter video stop playing every time I enter the game?0 -
Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »Red_Feather wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »You might have to turn on the option in the game files if it turns back off when you restart. Go to documents > The Elder Scrolls Online and click UserSettings and look for RENDER_THREAD, change the 0 next to it to 1. Exit out and save when it asks you to save. Retry and see if that works. If it doesn't, do it again and this time at the end right click UserSettings and go down and check the box that says Read Only. You might have to uncheck it before being able to edit it like I said.
No such option in my usersettings for live.
Its in the usersettings for PTS though.
Gotta feeling I'm gonna have to delete and reinstall the game.
It wasn't in my user settings file either. I added SET RENDER_THREAD "1" in the file (after unchecking Read Only in Properties), saved the file, rechecked Read Only, and restarted the game. It's now showing as ON in the Video Settings menu. However, as someone else noted, I'm now seeing the chapter video every time I start the game. Anyone know how to disable that?
I would delete your ini file and let the game generate a new one. For some reason your game might have it set to read only. The file was to be replaced with this patch.
My user settings file has been set read only from day one of game install. I can try that (um.... do you mean UserSettings.txt? I don't see an .ini file for the game - just for crash reporter and d3dx....) and see what happens, though I'll save the current one as there are a few other tweaks in it I want to keep.
Having your usersettings set to read only means any change you make to settings can never be saved. That is probably also why this new setting keeps getting removed from your file.
There are times when you would want to set it to Read Only, like if you want to keep a setting outside of the games available range for that setting since the game will often default to a standard value in such a case but those situations are rare.
edit: Also note, settings are saved to the usersettings file only upon successfully exiting the game. Alt-F4 or otherwise terminating the game will cause all of your in-game changes to be lost.
I never exit "abnormally". And I'm not kidding when I say the file has been set read only since I first installed the game. Yes, when I've edited the file I've unset read only, made the change, saved the file, then reset read only (since that was how it arrived out of the tin as it were).
The changes I've made are saved - because I've unset the file as read only, made the changes, saved the file, then reset read only.
I've been into the game four times since I added the line about threading. It's still there, and the vid settings are showing that threading is on, which it wasn't before I added the line to the file. And my FPS is better by about 20%, most likely because of that change.
And perhaps you can tell me how to make the chapter video stop playing every time I enter the game?
You are using an outdated ini file. There have been new code lines added in the past year for bokeh, global illumination, planar reflections, intro viewed, and more.5 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Red_Feather - until this patch, I had no problems with the intro viewed. I have no idea about bokeh, global illumination, planar reflections - I don't care about any of that, because I have no idea what any of it is good for.
In the morning I will move the usersettings file to desktop, to see if the game recreates it.0 -
ToxicOutrage✭✭✭i am using blackreach spot as benchmark as it is the laggiest non pvp spot in the game for me, im getting 36 fps by default and 65 fps multithread pretty good3
-
bruta✭✭✭✭scorpius2k1 wrote: »On 3 PC's, one is new and the other two are much older hardware. Seeing increases in performance across the board, especially in more graphically demanding situations. It may just be me, but framerate also seems a bit more stable with or without the setting on. Guessing the graphics stack may have had several improvements with this update?
Hopefully if stability proves to be good, the new MTR setting becomes enabled by default next patch for many players new and existing that will likely not even turn this on (or even know about it) which could potentially improve their entire game experience all around.
+1 on this being a great performance improvement in many areas, a nice surprise to see. Keep this kind of stuff up ZoS!
@ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_AlexTardif @ZOS_GinaBruno
yeah and even though it's labeled beta in the patch notes, ZOS guys should pin some small note about it here on general, where most views are.
this MTR is game changer, I pushed view distance all the way to 100% with no impact on fps1 -
luen79rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thanks so much to everyone at ZOS that made this amazing feature possible! I saw this thread earlier and decided to give it a try. It's been awesome!PC/DC/NAserver
V16 sorc - V16 temp - V16 dk - V1 nb - V1 temp - V1 dk1 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »@Red_Feather - until this patch, I had no problems with the intro viewed. I have no idea about bokeh, global illumination, planar reflections - I don't care about any of that, because I have no idea what any of it is good for.
In the morning I will move the usersettings file to desktop, to see if the game recreates it.
Or make a copy of it and throw the copy on your desktop, then turn off the read only attribute on your "live" one and let the game update it. This way you don't have to redo all your settings.Edited by danno8 on August 24, 2021 12:54AM0 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ToxicOutrage wrote: »i am using blackreach spot as benchmark as it is the laggiest non pvp spot in the game for me, im getting 36 fps by default and 65 fps multithread pretty good
There's an area in Murkmire I want to test when I get the chance. The place where you turn in all the tablets for the Murkmire version of the "Museum" hunt all the zones have these days.
If I go there and face west, my FPS goes from 60+ down to 30 for no apparent reason. It's done this for years through several hardware changes and settings set to lowest makes no difference.
I want to test that area.0 -
Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ToxicOutrage wrote: »i am using blackreach spot as benchmark as it is the laggiest non pvp spot in the game for me, im getting 36 fps by default and 65 fps multithread pretty good
There's an area in Murkmire I want to test when I get the chance. The place where you turn in all the tablets for the Murkmire version of the "Museum" hunt all the zones have these days.
If I go there and face west, my FPS goes from 60+ down to 30 for no apparent reason. It's done this for years through several hardware changes and settings set to lowest makes no difference.
I want to test that area.
Silent Halls in blackwood was my test. When I entered that area and saw my fps solid at my cap (60fps), I was 😲0 -
Jeffrey530✭✭✭✭After enabling MTR my game keeps crashing when I click 'play' at the game launcher, same after disabling add ons. Only after resetting 'settings' manually in the games file that I can log on again.. still wondering what went wrong there0 -
Phentos✭Noticed a vast improvement, going from ~30 FPS in dense cities to around 60-75. Otherwise, in 95% of situations I'm at more than 80 FPS, often 100. I used to have some micro-stutter if I had been playing for a long time, which has now cleared up completely.
My PC is a bit older, in that I have a Ryzen 1700, 16GB of DDR4-2933 RAM, and an RTX 2060 Super.1 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »@Red_Feather - until this patch, I had no problems with the intro viewed. I have no idea about bokeh, global illumination, planar reflections - I don't care about any of that, because I have no idea what any of it is good for.
In the morning I will move the usersettings file to desktop, to see if the game recreates it.
Or make a copy of it and throw the copy on your desktop, then turn off the read only attribute on your "live" one and let the game update it. This way you don't have to redo all your settings.
Better idea, thanks - I will do that.0