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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
is there a NARRATIVE way to start the blackwood main quest?
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Like, a roleplay narrative way to start the main quest or go to blackwood at all.
usually there's a breadcrumbs quest that starts in one of yhe main hub cities that leads you to the new zone. I didn't see anything in Vulkhel Guard or Eldenroot
I'd prefer this to just.. porting into the new zone (why would my character go there he has not business there yet) or using the collections quest starter which is generic.
I even tried going to Eveli's brother's camp outside Elden Root from the prologue but it's empty.
Edited by ZOS_Lunar on June 2, 2021 12:42PM usually there's a breadcrumbs quest that starts in one of yhe main hub cities that leads you to the new zone. I didn't see anything in Vulkhel Guard or Eldenroot
I'd prefer this to just.. porting into the new zone (why would my character go there he has not business there yet) or using the collections quest starter which is generic.
I even tried going to Eveli's brother's camp outside Elden Root from the prologue but it's empty.
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Clyde_BlueSnake✭✭✭For me I've been looking for a narrative, a manual way to go to Blackwood in the EP region, didn't saw a quest giver, but notice they added a wagon to travel there like they did for Western Skyrim, like in Deshaan near the Mastercraft Exchange. So it's like the Western Skyrim/Greymoor story, to do a roleplay/manual way of traveling there you'll have to go by wagon/caravan.Edited by Clyde_BlueSnake on June 2, 2021 4:15AMMain is Blue-Thuxis, a Argonian stamSorc, whose also is a werewolf! 2nd main, Cobalt-Thuxis, a Argonian stamArc, an identical twin sister to Blue-Thuxis, even is a werewolf as well! some alts:Nirn-Scale Rajthux (Argonian, Templar), Ros-Ei Nature-Thuxis (Argonian, Warden), Crimson-Thuxis (Argonian, DK), Bone-Thuxis Tharn (Argonian, Necro) Why Bone-Thuxis has Tharn as a last name:Some ESO history: I originally started from PS4 NA during June 10, 2015, I did reached CP 810+ on there. I eventually kinda got tired of paying PS+, so during February 4, 2019 I started moving to PC NA. Also CP: 810+. Nowadays I play ESO PC mostly, while PS4 is dust.The siblings were separated at a young age due to a Dres slaver raid, Blue, Cobalt, Ros-Ei & their mother were able to escape, Crimson & Bone weren't that lucky. Crimson was later "rescued" by some Orcs that later ambushed the House Dres Dunmers, unfortunately one Dunmer remained & sadly successfully brought the young Bone-Thuxis to the Dres plantation. Later an Imperial, a Tharn, bought Bone at a auction & later told he was free, the young Argonian sadly had no idea where to go & doesn't know if his family was still alive, so the Tharn adopted him into House Tharn. This family of Argonians finally reunited years later., Kenneth Clyde (Nord, Sorc), Selene Gray-Thuxis (Argonian, Nightblade), Urmanda (Orc, Warden)2 -
lethality_ESO✭✭✭I too would like a quest starter character to do this properly... I'm pretty sure the prologue Eveli said she would "send word" from Leyawin (sp)... so, where do I hear from her?
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✭✭✭✭✭"Once upon a time, there was a nefarious plot afoot in the lands of Blackwood. Our intrepid hero[ine] ventured there to see what they could to help...."
There ya go; one made-to-order narrative to kick off the Blackwood questline. Enjoy!ALL HAIL SNUGGLORR THE MAGNIFICENT, KING OF THE RNG AND NIRN'S ONE TRUE GOD! Also, become a Scrub-scriber! SJ Scrubs: Playing games badly to make you feel better about yourself.6 -
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✭nah that's not what I mean.
like for Orsinium, and all the other chapters there's a quest starting NPC2 -
lethality_ESO✭✭✭Saucy_Jack wrote: »"Once upon a time, there was a nefarious plot afoot in the lands of Blackwood. Our intrepid hero[ine] ventured there to see what they could to help...."
There ya go; one made-to-order narrative to kick off the Blackwood questline. Enjoy!
[snip] I have NPCs running in my face yelling at me for every other storyline that I haven't started.
Makes no sense they are now phoning it in.
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Crazyprophet✭✭✭lethality_ESO wrote: »I too would like a quest starter character to do this properly... I'm pretty sure the prologue Eveli said she would "send word" from Leyawin (sp)... so, where do I hear from her?
Easy. You don't hear anything from her. You get worried and decide to travel to Leyawiin yourself, see how she's going.
Done. Narrative way to Blackwood.5 -
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✭✭✭✭Not gonna lie - as much as I like things story-driven, the last thing we need is another NPC standing around in every city with:
"Do you know how long I've been looking for you? There are Oblivion Portals, in my own homeland! What am I going to do?"
I'll take the narrative hit to not have to hear that every five seconds.16 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Best you can do is to accept the quest from the collection menu as it probably makes it like you've received a letter again. Can abandon it if there's some issue.
I personally crossed the border in shadowfen and made my way through couple of quests there to meet a cart with a "helper of a main quest giver" looking for help so it was pretty much organic way. Just pretend you visited that region cause xyz, like all of tamriel is opened to your character and it's not there only for you irl, shouldn't be a problem to justify visiting a new place because some business or just as a traveler.1 -
Clyde_BlueSnake✭✭✭^To add of borders, while traveling through Blackwood I found a border to Northern Elsweyr, in Northern Elsweyr it's SE of Rimmen:
So, there's about three travel ways without taking the wayshrine.Main is Blue-Thuxis, a Argonian stamSorc, whose also is a werewolf! 2nd main, Cobalt-Thuxis, a Argonian stamArc, an identical twin sister to Blue-Thuxis, even is a werewolf as well! some alts:Nirn-Scale Rajthux (Argonian, Templar), Ros-Ei Nature-Thuxis (Argonian, Warden), Crimson-Thuxis (Argonian, DK), Bone-Thuxis Tharn (Argonian, Necro) Why Bone-Thuxis has Tharn as a last name:Some ESO history: I originally started from PS4 NA during June 10, 2015, I did reached CP 810+ on there. I eventually kinda got tired of paying PS+, so during February 4, 2019 I started moving to PC NA. Also CP: 810+. Nowadays I play ESO PC mostly, while PS4 is dust.The siblings were separated at a young age due to a Dres slaver raid, Blue, Cobalt, Ros-Ei & their mother were able to escape, Crimson & Bone weren't that lucky. Crimson was later "rescued" by some Orcs that later ambushed the House Dres Dunmers, unfortunately one Dunmer remained & sadly successfully brought the young Bone-Thuxis to the Dres plantation. Later an Imperial, a Tharn, bought Bone at a auction & later told he was free, the young Argonian sadly had no idea where to go & doesn't know if his family was still alive, so the Tharn adopted him into House Tharn. This family of Argonians finally reunited years later., Kenneth Clyde (Nord, Sorc), Selene Gray-Thuxis (Argonian, Nightblade), Urmanda (Orc, Warden)0 -
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✭tomofhyrule wrote: »Not gonna lie - as much as I like things story-driven, the last thing we need is another NPC standing around in every city with:
"Do you know how long I've been looking for you? There are Oblivion Portals, in my own homeland! What am I going to do?"
I'll take the narrative hit to not have to hear that every five seconds.
That's true but, it just feels less contrived than just "I went into a menu and clicked accept quest" if there's an NPC interaction or letter from a character you know. The collection quest ... isn't even like, a letter from Eveli or something that'd make sense for you to go it's just "click here to start quest" not even an attempt at making it story driven.1 -
Aertew✭✭✭✭tomofhyrule wrote: »Not gonna lie - as much as I like things story-driven, the last thing we need is another NPC standing around in every city with:
"Do you know how long I've been looking for you? There are Oblivion Portals, in my own homeland! What am I going to do?"
I'll take the narrative hit to not have to hear that every five seconds.
That's true but, it just feels less contrived than just "I went into a menu and clicked accept quest" if there's an NPC interaction or letter from a character you know. The collection quest ... isn't even like, a letter from Eveli or something that'd make sense for you to go it's just "click here to start quest" not even an attempt at making it story driven.
Eveli did say that she would expect to see you in Blackwood. Also you can just take a boat there or wayshrine travel. There should be a NPC waiting there.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭tomofhyrule wrote: »Not gonna lie - as much as I like things story-driven, the last thing we need is another NPC standing around in every city with:
"Do you know how long I've been looking for you? There are Oblivion Portals, in my own homeland! What am I going to do?"
I'll take the narrative hit to not have to hear that every five seconds.
This is the true reason, I'm afraid, and it's a valid reason.
If you have only one character and play everything along the way, you're clean, but if you start a new character you end up with half a dozen quest NPCs chasing you at every wayshrine and main city, it was getting clearly too much.
I, too, refused to take the quest voucher from the crown store, instead I noticed a new cart in Grahtwood and took it. Like "oh, a new airline to a new country, let's have a look". Roleplay-wise, it sounded quite reasonable, or at least reasonable enough to me.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I think there can be a balance between literally nothing and an NPC in an already crowded area shouting at you to accept the quest.
In this case a simple solution would be if you've done the prologue quest you then get a mail from Eveli telling you to come to Blackwood and meet her. (There wouldn't even be the problem of getting the 'follow up' mail immediately, because mail doesn't arrive until you go through a loading screen anyway.)
Or keep the NPC but put them somewhere other than the starter city (the ones for Craglorn are in Wayrest, Elden Root and Mournhold I think) and keep them quiet until you approach.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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✭✭✭✭✭Or perhaps, since Blackwood has launched, if you do the intro quest now, it just continues and adds another quest automatically to meet Eveli.CP: 1965 ** ESO+ Gold Road ** ~~ Stamina Arcanist ~~ Magicka Warden ~~ Magicka Templar ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****0 -
Ippokrates✭✭✭✭✭tomofhyrule wrote: »Not gonna lie - as much as I like things story-driven, the last thing we need is another NPC standing around in every city with:
"Do you know how long I've been looking for you? There are Oblivion Portals, in my own homeland! What am I going to do?"
I'll take the narrative hit to not have to hear that every five seconds.
I thought exactly the same quote ^^0 -
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✭I think there can be a balance between literally nothing and an NPC in an already crowded area shouting at you to accept the quest.
In this case a simple solution would be if you've done the prologue quest you then get a mail from Eveli telling you to come to Blackwood and meet her. (There wouldn't even be the problem of getting the 'follow up' mail immediately, because mail doesn't arrive until you go through a loading screen anyway.)
Or keep the NPC but put them somewhere other than the starter city (the ones for Craglorn are in Wayrest, Elden Root and Mournhold I think) and keep them quiet until you approach.
Guild Wars 2 does this, it works pretty well. You log in and there's new story content for you to do you get a mail from a character you know like one of the main story characters (in ESO's case it'd be a letter from Eveli).
I get now that if you JUST did the prologue after this dropped it'd make sense but if you did it months ago, you don't remember that it actually leads up to Leyawiin. So as far as your character is concerned... they haven't heard from Eveli so there's no particular reason to go to Leyawiin.0 -
lethality_ESO✭✭✭I think there can be a balance between literally nothing and an NPC in an already crowded area shouting at you to accept the quest.
In this case a simple solution would be if you've done the prologue quest you then get a mail from Eveli telling you to come to Blackwood and meet her. (There wouldn't even be the problem of getting the 'follow up' mail immediately, because mail doesn't arrive until you go through a loading screen anyway.)
Or keep the NPC but put them somewhere other than the starter city (the ones for Craglorn are in Wayrest, Elden Root and Mournhold I think) and keep them quiet until you approach.
Yep, I mean WoW has done this basic thing since day 1.
And to all those saying that another NPC flagging you down is a problem... why are you even here? This is what Elder Scrolls is about, it's why they take the time like no other MMO to voice all of the dialogue.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭lethality_ESO wrote: »And to all those saying that another NPC flagging you down is a problem... why are you even here? This is what Elder Scrolls is about, it's why they take the time like no other MMO to voice all of the dialogue.
You know nothing, Jon Snow. Especially not Stuga.
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Pretty sure none of the Chapters have a quest-starting NPC in a base-game city.nah that's not what I mean.
like for Orsinium, and all the other chapters there's a quest starting NPC
The Prologue quests all appear in a base-game city somewhere, so the real problem is that there is no connection between the Prologue quests and the chapter content, despite that being the logical place to make a connection.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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ThisOnePosts✭✭✭✭✭If you take the quest from the Collections menu, it will lead you to the center of the City.
You can enter from other zones as well.
If you enter through North Elsweyr, head towards the nearest Wayshrine (East) and then head South towards a skyshard & you will stumble upon an NPC with the main quest (image below, showing the quest marker for the main quest above his head):
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✭I've had 3 different npc quest starter npc scouts stalking me by a wayshrine 😭😭😭😭😅😅😅0