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✭✭How do you make 60k by doing daily writs?
I do all writs and only ~3k gold
Each quests gives 600 gold and if you sell the gear rewards. I do 6 quests for 14 characters. With the addon I need 40-45 minutes. I have tons of surveys but I am lazy to go and take the mats. I have enough gold and buy directly from traders. I dont care if I pay a little bit more. So ppl increase bit by bit because many ppl do what I do. Then we have the inflation. Once I am broke I will have to go and collect my surveys.Because I can!4 -
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✭Only up on PC. Console prices are still maxing out around 12-13k ea.
You want to stop the ridiculous prices on PC? Get rid of add-ons which collectively allow players to meticulously overanalyze market aspects and min-max every transaction made.
You want ZOS to stop the ridiculous prices on PC? Have them disable add-ons on live servers.
They can’t do more because if the prices aren’t outlandish for 2 out of the 3 platforms and everything else in-game is the same then it’s a player created problem, not ZOS.13 -
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✭✭Darkstorne wrote: »
Oh, I wouldnt advocate that you do them, I dont. Thats just the math. Well, its not exact. 18 characters would yield more. Its more like 14-15 characters, but you get the idea.
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✭✭✭✭Darkstorne wrote: »
But the whole point here is if you are on PC and use addons you can do those writs on multiple characters exceedingly fast.
The biggest thing that slows me down is the time it takes to relog and even that really isn't that long. I do currently 7 characters and all 7 crafts everyday, if I don't get distracted it's well under 30mins. With all the gold bonuses available I think I get just over 700g per writ, currently I have 2 millionaire crafters and 2 multi-millionaires but that's because I don't touch their gold, the others are not so rich!
I also have soooo many surveys stashed it's ridiculous if I need mats for my use or for some quick gold, I force my lazy arse to do some of those...
I have an expensive Housing Addiction to maintain!!
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!11 -
moo_2021✭✭✭✭✭trackdemon5512 wrote: »Only up on PC. Console prices are still maxing out around 12-13k ea.
You want to stop the ridiculous prices on PC? Get rid of add-ons which collectively allow players to meticulously overanalyze market aspects and min-max every transaction made.
Doesn't the TTC help lower price?
I found much cheaper mats by it and sell everything at 1/2 to 3/4 of its recommendation
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✭✭✭freespirit wrote: »I have an expensive Housing Addiction to maintain!!
Heh, yeah me too. Fair enough! 30 mins a day still sounds like effort to me, but then I don't enjoy writs at all and I often don't have much time to play anyway. That's my fault for being a little obsessed with my work, but the upside of that obsession is when I want to earn a million gold in 5 minutes I can just sell some Crowns
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DestroyerPewnack✭✭✭✭✭I guess perfect roe became expensive because the demand for XP went up with the introduction of companions. At any rate, I don't think prices make much of a difference, as these things you're trying to buy, you can farm yourself, then sell the extra ones you get at market price. If you sell perfect roe for 50k, then you're not making as much as you used to before prices went up. You're making more.
On PS EU, I remember when wax sold for 16k. Now, it sells for 8.5k. Am I making less than I used to? Sure. But if I ever need wax, I'll be buying it for less than I used to.0 -
ThePianist✭✭✭I think its hilarious that dominant trader guilds who have stock, are taken out by sniper guilds who have no stock.0
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✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »
But it is JUST from the writs.....
Each writ gives me just over 700g.... that's with cp/eso+ etc etc bonuses
One Character x 7 writs:- 7 x 700 = 4900(it's actually slightly over 5k but as I cannot remember exact figure I'm going with this)
i do seven characters per day so 7 x 4900 = 34,300 Gold just from handing in the writs not including anything I sell afterwards.
Oh I should add those figures are for characters that are at max level in all 7 crafts.
So anyone who does writs on every character every day is easily raking in way, way over 60k.
@Darkstorne until very recently I did my writs without addons, I finally decided to try the most popular one and OMG a few button presses and seven writs are done, I argued for years my way was just as quick.... it really, really wasn't!!
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
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✭✭✭✭✭freespirit wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »The profit isn't from turning in the writs. It's from selling the gold crafting mats you get from turning in the writs.
But it is JUST from the writs.....
Each writ gives me just over 700g.... that's with cp/eso+ etc etc bonuses
One Character x 7 writs:- 7 x 700 = 4900(it's actually slightly over 5k but as I cannot remember exact figure I'm going with this)
i do seven characters per day so 7 x 4900 = 34,300 Gold just from handing in the writs not including anything I sell afterwards.
Oh I should add those figures are for characters that are at max level in all 7 crafts.
So anyone who does writs on every character every day is easily raking in way, way over 60k.
I only have 3 characters so I only make $15k total from writ turn ins. I make a lot more than that selling the gold crafting mats I receive, and it takes less than 15 minutes.PCNA1 -
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✭✭Do believe a change to trading is incoming soonish….we will see.@Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP1 -
Slyclone✭✭✭✭100k AP = 1 Dawn Prism.
1 Dawn Prism = 48k gold.
100k AP = 48k gold.
88k AP = 1 Perfect RoeThat's it, that's all.4 -
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✭trackdemon5512 wrote: »Only up on PC. Console prices are still maxing out around 12-13k ea.
You want to stop the ridiculous prices on PC? Get rid of add-ons which collectively allow players to meticulously overanalyze market aspects and min-max every transaction made.
Doesn't the TTC help lower price?
I found much cheaper mats by it and sell everything at 1/2 to 3/4 of its recommendation
You would think so with potential undercutting but if that were the case then prices for items would be similar across the platforms. It’s no harder to get perfect roe on console than PC. The refinement rate for gold improvement mats is the same: 5-7% on both.
Yet players on PC seem to constantly buy up low and resell higher. Console does it but you have to check every trader manually thus discouraging the practice and creating a time sink. With perfect roe sure there is a demand but the wealthy will buy up all of the cheap stuff quickly listed on PC and resell higher for a profit, knowing that they’ve eliminated the lower priced stock available.4 -
Sailor_Palutena✭✭✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »I get it, everyone wants to make money ( gold ). Me too, but these freaking prices are crazy.
I went to several traders yesterday and perfect roe is costing between 40-50k gold. I remember paying 10k in the past. I am not getting paid any more than what I did in the past, and I don't want to spend my time fishing in the game. I can't even afford to fight for my faction with these prices.
Zeni, needs to step in and stop this madness. Increase the drop rate, or pay me more so I can afford to eat!
After seeing Purple Companion gear for a million gold, I expect nothing else.0 -
EllieBlue✭✭✭✭The easiest solution for OP is to go fishing herself. Spend 2 hours fishing to get 1 roe, if she is lucky. Maybe she will then understand why some things are priced the way they are. Forget any other conspiracy theories because roe is a random drop and someone has to spend a lot of time fishing to get one. Her time is not any more valuable than someone else's. With all her APs, she can easily buy Dawn Prisms and sell them easily for 30k each in guild traders. Roe is used in many high ends provisioning, XPs and furnishing recipes so it is hardly surprising that the price went up.Nirn Traders GM (est 2015)
PC EU
Semi-retired. Playing games for fun. Super casual.11 -
Larcomar✭✭✭✭✭I suspect the inflation's a bit self reinforcing as well as the other factors people have mentionned. I mean, I do writs and would regularly off load decent amounts of gold mats esp dreugr wax. I can't be the only person looking at the market and thinking I'll sit on them now. I mean, I don't really want to convert an asset that's appreciating into gold that's losing it's value unless I really need gold right now. As and when I do, I'll sell then. God knows what the price will be at that point....2
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✭Geez I feel kinda bad for you guys on pc, on ps4 I haven't seen any perfect roe for higher than 13k. All our mat prices have stayed about the same over the past couple years, while some of your's have more than tripled.4 -
corrosivechains✭✭✭✭✭I spend one day a week fishing 200 of each fishing type and while I know RNG is RNG there seems to have been a decrease in drop rate. It takes about 6-7 hours of solid fishing to go through 800 bait, and after all of the non-"fish" you catch(vendor and housing items) you get between 650-750 fish you can cut open. Usually this nets me between 5-7 roe, my average being around 1 in 115 fish or so, with the consensus seeming to be the average across the board being 1:150. The last 2 times though I've only gotten 3 roe out of each day. 3 roe out of roughly 700 fish 2 fishing days in a roe is rough, and I'm hoping it's just me being unlucky those 2 days instead of a stealth nerf being snuck in.
Since Roe was my main method of paying trader guild dues I had to up my price, was selling 35k but this week I upped it to 45k after looking through TTC. The Crown Trading spike doesn't help at all either as that's giving those who sell crowns a much bigger pool to influence the gold markets as well, but it's not directly affecting my personal pricing."Could you post me a link to the official MMO rule book please." - clayandaudrey_ESO3 -
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✭✭Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »Everything got up,I remember when chromium platings where selling for 60k on PC EU and in those times that was a lot of gold.
Good old days.
Chromium plating prices are so insane that no one uses them to upgrade jewelry any more. They're just too valuable. They're almost like their own currency."We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."4 -
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✭vamp_emily wrote: »I get it, everyone wants to make money ( gold ). Me too, but these freaking prices are crazy.
I went to several traders yesterday and perfect roe is costing between 40-50k gold. I remember paying 10k in the past. I am not getting paid any more than what I did in the past, and I don't want to spend my time fishing in the game. I can't even afford to fight for my faction with these prices.
Zeni, needs to step in and stop this madness. Increase the drop rate, or pay me more so I can afford to eat!
TBH, goods are worth what people will pay for them. Goods are only worth what people will pay for them and if there is someone out there squatting on Clavicus Vile's own personal gold stash and he can afford to drop 50-75k for a single perfect roe, more power to him I guess.
Me? I sell them for anywhere between 10-13K (IF i even sell them - I tend to hoard), depending on comparables in my guild traders. There will always be people who try to charge outlandish prices for stuff.
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✭Don't like the prices then go fish. If a person takes the time to fish then they can sell the perfect roe for whatever they please. Pretty simple.7 -
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✭Never underestimate the effect that a slight increase in gold gained via a new CP passive can have on inflation.0 -
Michae✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭How do you make 60k by doing daily writs?
I do all writs and only ~3k gold
Multiple characters. I do them on 10 characters daily which gives me roughly 46k. Some do it on 18 characters or even on 36 when they have two accounts."I bear the cruel weight of certainty. Total, absolute, relentless certainty. People rarely comprehend the luxury of doubt... the freedom that comes with indecision. I envy you."
―Sotha Sil
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✭vamp_emily wrote: »I get it, everyone wants to make money ( gold ). Me too, but these freaking prices are crazy.
I went to several traders yesterday and perfect roe is costing between 40-50k gold. I remember paying 10k in the past. I am not getting paid any more than what I did in the past, and I don't want to spend my time fishing in the game. I can't even afford to fight for my faction with these prices.
Zeni, needs to step in and stop this madness. Increase the drop rate, or pay me more so I can afford to eat!
I've always thought it was stupid that they made basic crafting ingredients the corner stone of the ESO in game economy by making them so rare the only way to to be able to use them regularly was to spend more time farming them than actually playing the game.
My frustration with the enforced rarity is a major reason I play so little compared to the amount of time I used to put into the game.1 -
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✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »What is stopping you from fishing? Trader prices is why I go fish for myself.
I was watching the grass grow, and it was just much more exciting than fishing in ESO.
Seriously, they should copy the fishing from Farcry 5 where you actually have to fight the fish to wear it out before reeling it in while making sure you don't over stress your fishing line to the point it snaps.0 -
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✭✭freespirit wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »
But the whole point here is if you are on PC and use addons you can do those writs on multiple characters exceedingly fast.
The biggest thing that slows me down is the time it takes to relog and even that really isn't that long. I do currently 7 characters and all 7 crafts everyday, if I don't get distracted it's well under 30mins. With all the gold bonuses available I think I get just over 700g per writ, currently I have 2 millionaire crafters and 2 multi-millionaires but that's because I don't touch their gold, the others are not so rich!
I also have soooo many surveys stashed it's ridiculous if I need mats for my use or for some quick gold, I force my lazy arse to do some of those...
I have an expensive Housing Addiction to maintain!!
Easy
I open a tv show, podcast, videos etc to my liking
Put it in front of computer
Rest is muscle memory, I know my writ rounds in my fav cities so I can watch my shows and make gold!
Ps. Also agree with your housing addiction, that thing is a sink of money
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