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Enough is enough!

vamp_emily
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I get it, everyone wants to make money ( gold ). Me too, but these freaking prices are crazy.

I went to several traders yesterday and perfect roe is costing between 40-50k gold. I remember paying 10k in the past. I am not getting paid any more than what I did in the past, and I don't want to spend my time fishing in the game. I can't even afford to fight for my faction with these prices.

Zeni, needs to step in and stop this madness. Increase the drop rate, or pay me more so I can afford to eat!



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  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    Everything got up,I remember when chromium platings where selling for 60k on PC EU and in those times that was a lot of gold.
    Good old days.
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
    ESO plus status: Cancelled
    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • vamp_emily
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    Ya I understand prices go up. However, I'm a Grand Overlord Grade 1 and get paid the same crappy rewards that a level 1 pvp player gets that nobody wants. Ya I might get payed a few extra gold but not enough to get by at this high cost of living.

    Perfect Roe is part of my Anti-Inflammatory diet. I need it to fight.

    Edited by vamp_emily on August 8, 2021 11:05AM

    If you want a friend, get a dog.
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  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    If you purely play PvP you must have tons of AP,aren't they worth something if you gamble boxes? I have been away for some time from Cyrodiil and only go ocasionaly there,but back in the day some sets where worth good gold,specially weapons with the right trait.
    Or any trait now as we have the stickerbook.
    Or the golden vendor jewelry also should sell for a decent price depending on the sets of course.
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
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    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • Old_Foggy
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    I get it, everyone wants to make money ( gold ). Me too, but these freaking prices are crazy.

    I went to several traders yesterday and perfect roe is costing between 40-50k gold. I remember paying 10k in the past. I am not getting paid any more than what I did in the past, and I don't want to spend my time fishing in the game. I can't even afford to fight for my faction with these prices.

    Zeni, needs to step in and stop this madness. Increase the drop rate, or pay me more so I can afford to eat!


    I'm on pc EU I sold 16 perfect roe yesterday the average price was just over 29k on the TTC, I sold mine for 27k each. I have noticed they don't drop as well as they used to and here could be the problem and I put a lot of hours into farming those 16.
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    I get it, everyone wants to make money ( gold ). Me too, but these freaking prices are crazy.

    I went to several traders yesterday and perfect roe is costing between 40-50k gold. I remember paying 10k in the past. I am not getting paid any more than what I did in the past, and I don't want to spend my time fishing in the game. I can't even afford to fight for my faction with these prices.

    Zeni, needs to step in and stop this madness. Increase the drop rate, or pay me more so I can afford to eat!


    I'm on pc EU I sold 16 perfect roe yesterday the average price was just over 29k on the TTC, I sold mine for 27k each. I have noticed they don't drop as well as they used to and here could be the problem and I put a lot of hours into farming those 16.

    Yea on EU roes got for that price,but I guess OP is talking about PC NA where they re selling for around those 40-50k each.
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
    ESO plus status: Cancelled
    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • Grandchamp1989
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    If you purely play PvP you must have tons of AP,aren't they worth something if you gamble boxes? I have been away for some time from Cyrodiil and only go ocasionaly there,but back in the day some sets where worth good gold,specially weapons with the right trait.
    Or any trait now as we have the stickerbook.
    Or the golden vendor jewelry also should sell for a decent price depending on the sets of course.

    I tried doing that - prices are extremely inconsistent.

    If you're lucky and get a precise deadly dagger sure you can earn some coin, but most of the time you get a useless shield or a reinforced set of boots that doesn't sell for much.

    I think the most consistent payout comes from the alliance pods and dawn prism.
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    If you purely play PvP you must have tons of AP,aren't they worth something if you gamble boxes? I have been away for some time from Cyrodiil and only go ocasionaly there,but back in the day some sets where worth good gold,specially weapons with the right trait.
    Or any trait now as we have the stickerbook.
    Or the golden vendor jewelry also should sell for a decent price depending on the sets of course.

    I tried doing that - prices are extremely inconsistent.

    If you're lucky and get a precise deadly dagger sure you can earn some coin, but most of the time you get a useless shield or a reinforced set of boots that doesn't sell for much.

    I think the most consistent payout comes from the alliance pods and dawn prism.

    True yea I forgot about those too.
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
    ESO plus status: Cancelled
    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • MajThorax
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    Zos is not responsible for the economy and should not intervene unless they find they come up with gold sinkholes and reduce inflation.
  • Tandor
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    MajThorax wrote: »
    Zos is not responsible for the economy and should not intervene unless they find they come up with gold sinkholes and reduce inflation.

    They may not be responsible for the economy, but they are responsible for the trading system.
  • Kiralyn2000
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    Tandor wrote: »
    MajThorax wrote: »
    Zos is not responsible for the economy and should not intervene unless they find they come up with gold sinkholes and reduce inflation.

    They may not be responsible for the economy, but they are responsible for the trading system.

    True, but inflation over time (in the Most Valuable Goods) happens in global-auction-house MMOs, too. It's just a factor of the gold supply increasing, and the rich getting richer.
    edit: only thing the devs can do is either increase supply (thereby tanking the value of items), or create more gold sinks. Decreasing the in game sources of gold doesn't help, because the rich still have plenty to toss around, it just hurts the low-end people who live quest reward to quest reward.

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    If you want to participate in the Trading Economy, you need to also sell things (which also go up in value) in order to keep up. If you just get quest rewards or pvp rewards (which are set, and don't increase with inflation), you'll be left behind. Just the way it is. /shrug

    Don't PvPers have Hakeijo(?) and alchemy bags, to sell into the economy for big profits? Or something like that?
    Edited by Kiralyn2000 on August 8, 2021 12:15PM
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    Don't PvPers have Hakeijo(?) and alchemy bags, to sell into the economy for big profits? Or something like that?

    Alchemy bags and Hakeijo are for tel var stones.
    Which is another source where PvP'ers can make good gold with,in some cases maybe quicker and better than with stuff they can get with ap.
    Thing is not all PvP'ers also play IC.
    Edited by Lady_Galadhiel on August 8, 2021 12:18PM
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
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    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • LyricsEcho
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    Pvp has a leg up if they use their AP to sell alliance pots. Alliance Mage pots go for 330g a piece.
  • N3CR01
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    40-50k for Roe?
    I sold some last week to a dude who was trying to get me down to 20k each and I was like no way.
    Average price iirc according to MM was 27k. I sold a stack of 20 for 22k each.
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    N3CR01 wrote: »
    40-50k for Roe?
    I sold some last week to a dude who was trying to get me down to 20k each and I was like no way.
    Average price iirc according to MM was 27k. I sold a stack of 20 for 22k each.

    On Pc NA?
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
    ESO plus status: Cancelled
    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • vamp_emily
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    Thanks for some of the tips. I did spend most my ap gambling at the armor vendor and got a lot of items that have not sold.

    It was just disappointing to wake up this morning and think I was going to make some food and about passed out when I seen 10 perfect roe selling for 400k+

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  • ShawnLaRock
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    Err… here’s the thing about prices: if nobody pays ‘em they come down. If you are paying what is being asked - then YOU are the problem.

    I haven’t spent a dime & am doin’ fine!

    S.
  • Minnesinger
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    Yea the prices have gone too high. Yesterday, I needed to buy a stack of 200 tri-pots. One of the biggest guilds had them priced just under 200k. The next trader had them for 70k.
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  • Jaimeh
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    Prices are in an all time high, either because of inflation, or more demand since the stickerbook, or less people farming, but they keep rising. I was hoping the double nodes event would help bring them down a little, but like someone said above, if things sell at those prices, then why sell cheaper. To the OP, if you have the time to spare, I recommend doing some writs and farming, even if you do it for a short time, it's the consistency that matters, and after a few weeks, you will have mats and gold (to buy other mats such as roe, since you don't like fishing).
  • Grandchamp1989
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    If demand is that much higher than supply (and it isn't high end guilds speculating and flipping)
    then it can be easily fixed by increasing supply to match demand.

    If Zos increased to drop rate of rare items then the prices would plummet really fast to a healthy level.

    Then add a gold sink and the problem should be fixed.
    Edited by Grandchamp1989 on August 8, 2021 1:40PM
  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    What is stopping you from fishing? Trader prices is why I go fish for myself.
  • N3CR01
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    N3CR01 wrote: »
    40-50k for Roe?
    I sold some last week to a dude who was trying to get me down to 20k each and I was like no way.
    Average price iirc according to MM was 27k. I sold a stack of 20 for 22k each.

    On Pc NA?

    Nah, PC EU.

  • Darkstorne
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    I'm not sure why prices are going up so much either. But I do wonder if it's indirectly because of Crown selling though? For people foolish enough to risk violating TOS, it's much cheaper to buy gold online, then use that gold to buy Crown items from other players, than it is to buy Crowns directly. I feel like so many people are doing that, and that's what drives the prices of Crowns up, because Crown sellers know people are buying millions for bargain prices these days and can therefore afford the increase. Which in turn means even more illegal gold is purchased, and now we're seeing that gold influx really hurting the in-game economy.

    I could be completely wrong about that, but it's the impression I've been getting with how many people are still happy to regularly buy Crowns at an exchange rate of 1:800+. There's no way all those players are farming that kind of money themselves, right?

    So in essence, another reason why ZOS should do as much as they can to stop bot farming. If my theory is right, no bots would soon sort out both the in-game economy and the Crown trade. Though presumably, a bot-free Tamriel is also impossible :disappointed:
  • umagon
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    I get it, everyone wants to make money ( gold ). Me too, but these freaking prices are crazy.

    I went to several traders yesterday and perfect roe is costing between 40-50k gold. I remember paying 10k in the past. I am not getting paid any more than what I did in the past, and I don't want to spend my time fishing in the game. I can't even afford to fight for my faction with these prices.

    Zeni, needs to step in and stop this madness. Increase the drop rate, or pay me more so I can afford to eat!


    The value of gold decreases rapidly with the inflation that is going on right now. On your down time I suggest farming gold materials and banking them. You can always sell a few those to buy what you want at that time period. I have seen you in game fighting hard for DC, I have some perfect roe you can have if you are interested; send me a mail in game if you are.
  • Pevey
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    Demand for many things has gone way up. There is less surplus that people are willing to sell because they use what they farm themselves. There are lots of different reasons of this, most intentionally implemented by zos. For instance, purple food was nerfed into the ground. Demand for roe has been climbing ever since. New CP was released. Demand for dust and roe has been climbing ever since. Sticker book was released. And in addition to this, zos has been making a lot of changes to make multiple different gear setups viable for each class. What is BiS is now a lot more situational than it used to be. This is kind of a nice change. The result of these combined changes is that demand for equipment mats is now basically insatiable. It probably won’t be this way forever, but right now is a really good time to farms some mats and sock away the gold if you are so inclined.
  • oldbobdude
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    Guess we need labor unions to fight for a better wage. 🤪
  • Shantu
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    While I understand the angst regarding gold prices, with a little consistent effort to lay the groundwork to obtain sell-able items, and an eye for what players will pay for, gold is really pretty easy to get. It may not be the way you want to play the game, but if you want to purchase things with gold, you kind of have to bite the bullet.

    ZOS is highly unlikely to intervene in the games economy...especially when engaging in it means you'll spend more time logged in...which is a metric for profitability.

    I do get it that prices can feel greedy and repulsive. But it's the normal result of a free economy...and there is a game path to deal with it...if you're willing to put in the effort.

    Engaging in the ESO economy is part of the game. Like any other part you have a choice to play it or not. But if you want gold, you're going to have to play the game in a way that obtains it. Unless you have a rich friend like me :)
  • Fennwitty
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    MajThorax wrote: »
    Zos is not responsible for the economy and should not intervene unless they find they come up with gold sinkholes and reduce inflation.

    They've been INCREASING inflation.

    The new CP items in 2.0 that weren't in 1.0 add to inflation (increasing gold found, reducing repair costs, reducing wayshrine costs, reducing usage of potions). Daily logins instead of being cute cosmetics have more and more become currency bribes and consumables. Endeavors even give away gold.

    The closest thing to a gold sink they've added is *one* new luxury furnishing item every couple weeks. Which is typically at a comparable price to the others.
    Edited by Fennwitty on August 8, 2021 3:17PM
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  • Bashev
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    What do you expect when you can make writs and earn 60k easily without counting the resources? This is every day. When so much gold is generated then the price will increase.
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  • Pevey
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    Bashev wrote: »
    What do you expect when you can make writs and earn 60k easily without counting the resources? This is every day. When so much gold is generated then the price will increase.

    Writs are often cited, but their effect is more complicated. In terms of gold mats available, not enough people are doing writs to meet demand, and that is why the price goes up. Writs are by far the most time efficient way to obtain gold mats. If more people did writs, those prices would probably go down, not up.
  • moo_2021
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    How do you make 60k by doing daily writs?

    I do all writs and only ~3k gold
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