Why do certain abilities not show their timers on the ability bar?

AVAndronov · August 2021

Greetings

Can someone explain why certain abilities, like Nightblade's Shadow Image, do not show their timer on the ability bar? It has a duration, so why not?

price101610 · August 2021

Zos

Everest_Lionheart · August 2021

The timers on console are poorly implemented. I still do better watching buff and debuff bars for most of my skills. Some skills have an additional timer after they have expired like warden sub assault.

I think the worst offender is wall of elements to be honest. It’s a staple skill of mag class with no duration timer you must watch for explosion or trust your rotation. If you use the longer version of it the animation disappears after 10 seconds even with 4 seconds left of duration. Almost nobody uses it, but it lines up better for things like DK zen rotation.

Timers need work. No wonder PC players use add ons, those work much more reliably.

fizl101 · August 2021

I think Zos have said that they haven't finished the implementation of timers in a previous post (search doesn't work for me so I can't find it)

phaneub17_ESO · August 2021

It's just buggy. Like Molten Armaments will simply drop the timer midway through its duration, you'll see it with like 20 seconds left and the timer resets to zero; the effect is still active, but the game thinks it dropped off. Wall of Elements disappears when you bar swap and resummoning any pets early resets the timer to zero instead of refreshing it.

I still use Srendarr addon to keep track of all my buffs and timers.

the1andonlyskwex · August 2021

On PS4, all of the timers seem to reset whenever I get crowd controlled. They also seem to reset in other situations I haven't precisely identified, and I've also had them fail to start.

In short, they're buggy as heck.

AVAndronov · August 2021

So I assume certain addons use built-in tracking, which is buggy, and certain addons track stuff manually, that's why they can track things that normally aren't displayed by the game?

Oreyn_Bearclaw · August 2021

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

The timers on console are poorly implemented. I still do better watching buff and debuff bars for most of my skills. Some skills have an additional timer after they have expired like warden sub assault.

I think the worst offender is wall of elements to be honest. It’s a staple skill of mag class with no duration timer you must watch for explosion or trust your rotation. If you use the longer version of it the animation disappears after 10 seconds even with 4 seconds left of duration. Almost nobody uses it, but it lines up better for things like DK zen rotation.

Timers need work. No wonder PC players use add ons, those work much more reliably.

Yeah, I tried these timers for about a week. Couldnt get back to "action duration reminder" fast enough. So many addons that should be in the base game. Either this or the mini map are top of the list.

zvavi · August 2021

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

The timers on console are poorly implemented. I still do better watching buff and debuff bars for most of my skills. Some skills have an additional timer after they have expired like warden sub assault.

I think the worst offender is wall of elements to be honest. It’s a staple skill of mag class with no duration timer you must watch for explosion or trust your rotation. If you use the longer version of it the animation disappears after 10 seconds even with 4 seconds left of duration. Almost nobody uses it, but it lines up better for things like DK zen rotation.

Timers need work. No wonder PC players use add ons, those work much more reliably.

Yeah, I tried these timers for about a week. Couldnt get back to "action duration reminder" fast enough. So many addons that should be in the base game. Either this or the mini map are top of the list.

Combat metrics gets my n1 vote but ye, I tried the in-game timers too... And went back to ADR

Oreyn_Bearclaw · August 2021

zvavi wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

The timers on console are poorly implemented. I still do better watching buff and debuff bars for most of my skills. Some skills have an additional timer after they have expired like warden sub assault.

I think the worst offender is wall of elements to be honest. It’s a staple skill of mag class with no duration timer you must watch for explosion or trust your rotation. If you use the longer version of it the animation disappears after 10 seconds even with 4 seconds left of duration. Almost nobody uses it, but it lines up better for things like DK zen rotation.

Timers need work. No wonder PC players use add ons, those work much more reliably.

Yeah, I tried these timers for about a week. Couldnt get back to "action duration reminder" fast enough. So many addons that should be in the base game. Either this or the mini map are top of the list.

Combat metrics gets my n1 vote but ye, I tried the in-game timers too... And went back to ADR

@zvavi
Oh its certainly on the podium. That said, only a very small percent of players are ever really going to use Combat Metrics in the grand scheme of things and at least we do have an in-game DPS readout for dummies. The lack of a mini map is simply absurd for a game like this. The Legend of Zelda had a mini map in 1986 for crying out loud.

cynicalbutterfly · August 2021

the1andonlyskwex wrote: »

On PS4, all of the timers seem to reset whenever I get crowd controlled. They also seem to reset in other situations I haven't precisely identified, and I've also had them fail to start.

In short, they're buggy as heck.

I noticed they reset if I get stunned. Not all, just really specific ones. Also noticed the failing to start too. Some skills are a 50/50 shot at timer starting. Most of the ones that don't start aren't important enuf for me to care anyway.

Remathilis · August 2021

My favorite is the 24hr one on Elusive Mist after you've used it once in a zone.