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Do you want to see areas of High Rock redone and Breton content overhauled?

Thevampirenight
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Basically, a lot of the issues that people have, is they really messed it up, Ayleid stuff all over the place is one of the biggest complaints, lack of Dirennai ruins is another big one, and other unique stuff. UESP has updated the Breton Lore page to where there is so much unique Breton Cultural stuff they can rework into the game that was in Daggerfall but never documented. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Breton
There is so much they can explore with the Bretons now , they don't have to redo everything, but do you want to see them go out of their way to fix the alpha mistakes they made and get rid of a lot of the Ayleid ruins all over the place and explore Breton unique culture? Plus add in the Direnni ruins that people want to see, as well as redo some of the quests and dialogue related to them so they ain't Ayleid related but Direnni and Breton related.
Another thing they could do with an overhaul if it were to happen is also High Rock cities more colorful with the exception of Rivenspire which should remain gloomy colors all they would have to do is adjust textures to existing buildings and structures and it would make the cities so much better to behold and look at.
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Edited by Thevampirenight on August 24, 2021 8:41AM
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Do you want to see areas of High Rock redone and Breton content overhauled? 156 votes

Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
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No High Rock, and the way they did the Bretons is good the way it is.
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  • hcbigdogdoghc
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    Pretty sure ZOS have High Rock and generic fantasy land TES4 Cyrodiil confused.
  • YstradClud
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    Imo Bretons should be neutral but Imperials claim that. So I just went to the AD just to mix it up.
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  • VaranisArano
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    Almost certainly not going to happen, unless you are willing to pay Chapter/DLC prices for each overhauled zone and put new zone development on hold until the rework is complete.

    Are you willing to do that?

    More pertinently, do you think it's cost effective across the whole playerbase for ZOS to do so?

    Me, I doubt it. Fixing the stuff the lore enthusiasts whine and moan about in the old zones zone - I say this affectionately, seeing as I'm one of the lore enthusiasts whining - is not going to bring in the amount of (money that it would cost to fix) + (money lost from selling new content in that time). Therefore, it's almost certainly not going to happen.

    And if TES 6 is returning to Breton lands, then again, I'd be really surprised if ESO started mucking around in the same areas.
  • Grandchamp1989
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    Yes, please redo them.
    Breton culture, to me atleast, seem to be completely overshadowed by the shallow werewolf and vampire themes in their region..

    Bretons need some love IMO
  • Darkstorne
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    It's not happening. That's an insane amount of dev time, more than an entire Chapter and Q4 DLC's worth, just to redo old content rather than create new content (which we know sells better, so they can't justify that time).

    I had been hoping the Direnni Isle would be their chance to address some of those mistakes and create some sizable new Breton DLC, but it's just become a small tutorial zone instead.

    We just have to suck it up and mostly ignore the "visual lore" from zones like High Rock and Valenwood. They were both created during a time early in the game's dev cycle when lore clearly wasn't the priority, but traditional MMO design was the focus instead. That shifted later in development as devs saw negative reactions to the game reveal and questions like "where is first person?" (this game had a cartoon art direction at first, remember? And High Rock was heavily featured demonstrating that it was one of the first zones they developed), and One Tamriel in particular marked a point where (most) visual lore has been excellent ever since (Summerset Isle's copy/paste cities aside...). At least with Valenwood there's still hope for a decent Falinesti Chapter/DLC, but I think it's time to let High Rock go until it's tackled in a single player game again, or in ESO2 if that ever happens.
    Edited by Darkstorne on August 3, 2021 12:03PM
  • the1andonlyskwex
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    No High Rock, and the way they did the Bretons is good the way it is.
    The High Rock zones are some of the best in the game. I get your point about them not really focusing on the local race as much as some of the other zones, but I think that's a strength rather than a weakness.

    Also, on the topic of overhauling zones more generally: The map is going to be completely filled in eventually, and I hope at that point ZoS starts making duplicates of the base game zones, set after Molag Bal's defeat (with new quests, enemies, and storylines, but mostly the same landscape and NPCs), rather than making up more landmass outside of Tamriel.
    Edited by the1andonlyskwex on August 3, 2021 12:36PM
  • trackdemon5512
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    I think the biggest problem with redoing the older content is that if the textures are reused for crown store content then you’ll likely have visual issues when it comes to homes and furnishings.

    Redoing those is tricky due to ZOS policy of not changing assets once they’re live due to players actually shelling out real money to acquire those cosmetics and the unique way they look.
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    It's is extremely unlikely to happen with how much work it would require and also with how ZoS is against changing existing things.

    I'd love to see a better Valenwood which also suffer greatly from being the base game, but that's unlikely to ever happen.
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  • Luke_Flamesword
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    Well, it's not about rework existing content to replace it (it will never happen and that's good) - instead they can put base game zones into some "legacy" tab and release a lof of Tamriel for future, quality chapters.
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  • Orion_89
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    I like it how it is right now (I mean european vibes in architecture) but breton's culture needs some deepness and uniqueness. Also bretons doesn't look like half-elves, I know they have more nedic blood, but anyway.
    Edited by Orion_89 on August 3, 2021 6:55PM
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    Orion_89 wrote: »
    I like it how it is right now (I mean european vibes in architecture) but breton's culture needs some deepness and uniqueness. Also bretons doesn't look like half-elves, I know they have more nedic blood, but anyway.

    They don't look like half-elves because they aren't half-elves. They are a race of man with some mer ancestry. Which is also why they can have slightly pointed ears.
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  • Blinx
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    I'd rather see a new quest or 2 tackle some breton lore, as opposed to a revamp of the old zones, neither is likely to happen tho
  • Klad
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    No High Rock, and the way they did the Bretons is good the way it is.
    Actually I want ZoS to end the stupid Three banners war,

    Much more players play the arena system than cyrodil
    Having the Imperial city back will give more player much more to do
    If not for me do it for your community, for Mom....dare I say for America.
  • TheImperfect
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    I don't mind things being added but don't want anything taking away. I'd love to see additional Breton content and more lore related to the Direnni and Bretons as a whole and possibly new additional areas.
  • Supreme_Atromancer
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    Yes. Jehanna exists. The Western Reach exists. Ephesus should have literally anything defining its character and lore. Orcs shouldn't represent 3/4 of the province. Mournoth is supposed to be part of The Reach, not a tropical pirate cove, and The Dragontails shouldn't be a ridiculously thin rock wall separating drastically different biomes.

    Seriously though, a re-worked High Rock would probably be part of a broader update of the base-game zones, as the drastic difference in sheer quality of anything released a moment after launch would probably be the biggest motivation for any development.

    But yes, they would have to find a way to make it work within the framework of their release cadence, in some way that wouldn't compete with production of newer stuff. If the reworks were drastic enough, it could essentially be new content, I guess?

    I really hope they do - its one of my biggest wishes for the game to see my favourite places rendered with the design principles and technology they are using today.
    Edited by Supreme_Atromancer on August 3, 2021 10:54PM
  • Sylvermynx
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    Might be nice, but doubt it's happening. So *shrug* - not something I'm going to salivate over.
  • Ippokrates
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    No High Rock, and the way they did the Bretons is good the way it is.
    Pretty sure ZOS have High Rock and generic fantasy land TES4 Cyrodiil confused.

    Have you played Daggerfall? ;)
    Edited by Ippokrates on August 24, 2021 1:41PM
  • Amottica
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    I do not think Zenimax needs to rework such existing content. I think time and money are better spent on developing new content and improving the performance of the game.

    I just noticed @VaranisArano comment and agree.
    Edited by Amottica on August 4, 2021 1:09AM
  • zvavi
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    I do think that Bretons deserve additional content and that they should get some love, however, it needs to come in addition, not instead, so my answer is combination of your two poll answers

    Yes I want to see Breton content.
    No High Rock, is good the way it is.
  • MerguezMan
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    There is so much they can explore with the Bretons now , they don't have to redo everything, but do you want to see them go out of their way to fix the alpha mistakes they made and get rid of a lot of the Ayleid ruins all over the place and explore Breton unique culture? Plus add in the Direnni ruins that people want to see, as well as redo some of the quests and dialogue related to them so they ain't Ayleid related but Direnni and Breton related.

    Direnni is basically an elve tribe, and their architecture looks a lot like what can be seen in Cyrodiil, so the Ayleid-type ruins are not completely out of place.

    About remaking some part of base game... what would happen to your already-cleared progress ?

    I'd prefer an extension of the zone, lower hammerfell unexplored part, and maybe some part of highrock that is only cliffs and rocks now could be improved (Glenumbria as plenty of empty spaces).
  • adriant1978
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    I'd love it, but it's not going to happen because there's no way to monetize the refreshing of base game content.
  • ibkickin
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    Amottica wrote: »
    I do not think Zenimax needs to rework such existing content. I think time and money are better spent on developing new content and improving the performance of the game.

    I just noticed @VaranisArano comment and agree.

    Exactly my thoughts.
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  • colossalvoids
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    Obviously, but it's not gonna happen until there's something to squeeze inbetween existing zones.
  • spartaxoxo
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    No High Rock, and the way they did the Bretons is good the way it is.
    They should add new stuff not rework old.
  • francesinhalover
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    Eso has so many lore problems,
    Khajit in morrowind are meant to have normal animal legs.
    there's many races missing.
    The locations aren't that canonical, some quests could use some more npcs also. oh no there's a war, what? only 5 soldiers?

    That being said , what should really be reworked is textures, sorcerers conjured monsters, armors etc.
    many armors look like painted paper.
    Edited by francesinhalover on August 4, 2021 11:50AM
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  • Iluvrien
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    Under the B2P model there is no incentive for them to do so. Even when the entire map has been filled.

    However, I’d like to think that under the original P2P model, the answer might be different. It always struck me that, if ZOS had stuck on that path, whether we might have seen ongoing stories in areas. Burn down the town a la Bleakrock? Fine… return to it 6 months later to rebuild it… and include the updated assets then.

    No invalidation of the original assets, but the chance to roll out improvements too.

    Of course they couldn’t sell it in the Crown Shop, so it will never get done. Too much like making a game, rather than making money.
  • kind_hero
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    Now that Microsoft bought the company, they should make more than the usual year long chapter updates.

    TBH, I would like to see updates in parallel to the new content. Quality of life updates, visual updates, such as improved textures and effects, etc. These could have their own pace, they shouldn't be tied to a big content update. Mostly because I am talking about visual enhancements. Some textures are still low res, you can't match some outfit pieces with newer ones, or furnishings like Breton or Orc is low res compared to the newer released ones.

    I hope one day they will do a One Tamriel Plus, or 2.0 :)
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  • Malkiv
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    I don’t see any of the OP suggestions happening, but I would like a graphical refresh for the original game zones to bring them more inline with zones like Elsweyr and later. WoW did it for their original zones after about 10 years, but ESO is still a couple years from that mark.
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  • Kiralyn2000
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    Other: Meh / no strong opinion. I'm not a major lore-hound (I know general lore from the games, I don't seek out extras or read all the in-game books), and have no particular knowledge or opinions about Bretons.

    (most of my "I like race X, I don't like race Y" is based entirely on aesthetics, anyway.)
  • Thevampirenight
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    Yes I want to see an overhaul of High Rock and Breton content.
    Malkiv wrote: »
    I don’t see any of the OP suggestions happening, but I would like a graphical refresh for the original game zones to bring them more inline with zones like Elsweyr and later. WoW did it for their original zones after about 10 years, but ESO is still a couple years from that mark.

    One of these days I do hope they go about and address some of these issues with High Rock either way and of course update the zones with better textures and stuff.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on August 17, 2021 9:40PM
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