Can you fix this "LiNk YouR SaLes HiStorY bEfoRe LoGgIng Out"?!? Been months now.

Selminus · July 2021

Of all the things to put this popup on, logging out is hands down the most obnoxious. Why? Because we're logging out lol. Super annoying. Please take care of this one. The addon devs all say it's part of the new infrastructure since Blackwood...

waterfairy · July 2021

that popup doesn't exist in vanilla without the addon so how is this a zenimax problem?

colossalvoids · July 2021

Not sure if this post is any serious. Hope I'm right.

FrancisCrawford · July 2021

Click on a red bar. Then click on Sales (on the left of the guild history window that pops up). Then click (perhaps repeatedly) on Show More (at the bottom of the same window).

waterfairy · July 2021

colossalvoids wrote: »

Not sure if this post is any serious. Hope I'm right.

it's so serious that they alternate upper and lower case letters just to show how serious they are

omegatay_ESO · July 2021

It's one of your add-ons doing it.. MM? I think, not sure though.

starkerealm · July 2021

omegatay_ESO wrote: »

It's one of your add-ons doing it.. MM? I think, not sure though.

It's libGuildHistory (or, whatever the name is.) The library is mandatory for MM, but it's not, technically an MM issue.

CaffeinatedMayhem · July 2021

starkerealm wrote: »

omegatay_ESO wrote: »

It's one of your add-ons doing it.. MM? I think, not sure though.

It's libGuildHistory (or, whatever the name is.) The library is mandatory for MM, but it's not, technically an MM issue.

Yes, it's a USER issue. As in, you the user need to do something. Because I have my histories linked, and load all my data daily and don't have any errors. *shrug*

The shrug is that MM has required USER intervnetion since the devs limited how often addons can pull guild history. For players that don't want to deal with manually loading guild history data into MM, there's always TTC.

Froil · July 2021

It's kind of amazing how foolish people are, not recognizing the problem is an add on they installed.
It's just like when people were making complaint threads about the death recap hints being snarky and whatnot, not realizing it's a from an add on...

starkerealm · July 2021

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

omegatay_ESO wrote: »

It's one of your add-ons doing it.. MM? I think, not sure though.

It's libGuildHistory (or, whatever the name is.) The library is mandatory for MM, but it's not, technically an MM issue.

Yes, it's a USER issue. As in, you the user need to do something. Because I have my histories linked, and load all my data daily and don't have any errors. *shrug*

Not really. Normally, the addon handles it automatically, but on some setups, parts of the library breaks, and has to be manually updated. It can be fixed by uninstalling and reinstalling the relevant mods.

spartaxoxo · July 2021

This doesn't happen on console. It's an add-on.

CaffeinatedMayhem · July 2021

starkerealm wrote: »

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

omegatay_ESO wrote: »

It's one of your add-ons doing it.. MM? I think, not sure though.

It's libGuildHistory (or, whatever the name is.) The library is mandatory for MM, but it's not, technically an MM issue.

Yes, it's a USER issue. As in, you the user need to do something. Because I have my histories linked, and load all my data daily and don't have any errors. *shrug*

Not really. Normally, the addon handles it automatically, but on some setups, parts of the library breaks, and has to be manually updated. It can be fixed by uninstalling and reinstalling the relevant mods.

Uh no.

If you are in a guild that does high enough sales volumes, MM still can't keep up, especially if you have been offline for a while (more than overnight). Also MM cannot and does not load data while you are offline. If that's a short enough time and you want to risk missing some, go ahead with "automatic".

For those of us that NEED every single transaction, we load manually. I do 24-28 hours a day, so that hopefully I don't miss anything.

For reference - if the bars on your MM history link are not already blue when you log out of your first character, when you log into your second, the algorithm pretty obviously just stops trying to "back load" and just starts from that current time. Do this enough and you'll see the holes in your data. Nothing wrong if you don't care about accuracy. But MM is the addon for data nerds, so if you really don't care that much, just use ATT or TTC.

DreamyLu · July 2021

Yes, it's due to an addon, so ZOS has nothing to do with that.

I'm myself not so bothered by this. When it happens (that's only when the history had no time to synchronize, what is rare, like for example, when I swap between toons so there's short time between in and out), I just click the "open history" and make it happen manually. That's half a minute.

Of course, it would be more comfortable not to have it, but that's like many - many - other things same type. I call them the "QoL peanuts". That one isn't in my top 10 of the most annoying ones.

trackdemon5512 · July 2021

Console players laugh at the ridiculousness of this being how players are expected to play when in trading guilds on PC.

DreamyLu · July 2021

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

Console players laugh at the ridiculousness of this being how players are expected to play when in trading guilds on PC.

I admire console players. ESO is a side game to me only. Honestly, without the addon, I would not play it at all. So I can't imagine playing on console. But it's true that I'm very lazy...

starkerealm · July 2021

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

omegatay_ESO wrote: »

It's one of your add-ons doing it.. MM? I think, not sure though.

It's libGuildHistory (or, whatever the name is.) The library is mandatory for MM, but it's not, technically an MM issue.

Yes, it's a USER issue. As in, you the user need to do something. Because I have my histories linked, and load all my data daily and don't have any errors. *shrug*

Not really. Normally, the addon handles it automatically, but on some setups, parts of the library breaks, and has to be manually updated. It can be fixed by uninstalling and reinstalling the relevant mods.

Uh no.

Oh yes.

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

If you are in a guild that does high enough sales volumes, MM still can't keep up...

This is not an MM issue. It's an addon called, "LibHistoire." In fact, the bars you originally referenced later in the post clearly state they're LibHistorie, not Master Merchant.

They're not even the same addon author.

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

Also MM cannot and does not load data while you are offline.

Not sure how that's relevant, but, yeah, this is correct. Addons cannot muck about with the game unless you're logged in.

Tyreal1974 · July 2021

Selminus wrote: »

Come on Zenimax. We know this is on you and not the addon devs.

Yeah come on ZOS fix something that was broken by an addon creator that has nothing to do with the ZOS development team *sarcasm* [snip]

[edited for baiting]

Amottica · July 2021

CaffeinatedMayhem wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

omegatay_ESO wrote: »

It's one of your add-ons doing it.. MM? I think, not sure though.

It's libGuildHistory (or, whatever the name is.) The library is mandatory for MM, but it's not, technically an MM issue.

Yes, it's a USER issue. As in, you the user need to do something. Because I have my histories linked, and load all my data daily and don't have any errors. *shrug*

The shrug is that MM has required USER intervnetion since the devs limited how often addons can pull guild history. For players that don't want to deal with manually loading guild history data into MM, there's always TTC.

I think they are pointing out the technical location of the break. However, it is an add-on issue as the libs are technically add-ons. The users is not causing the issue.

This thread would be more appropriate in the add-on sub-forum.

EF321 · July 2021

Selminus wrote: »

Of all the things to put this popup on logging out is hands down the most obnoxious. Why? Because I'M LOGGING OUT AKA DONE. How long as it been now, huh? Blackwood? Ridic annoying. Because my sales history is that serious, right? Come on Zenimax. We know this is on you and not the addon devs.

Yes, my sales history is really serious to me, that's why I installed these addons to begin with

You can go ahead an delete them if you are not a fan.

haploeb14_ESO · July 2021

SIGH

Rukia541 · July 2021

You need to link the sales , can force a link then it will just take history from that point on if you don't care. All its telling you is there is missing data so you probably were away for a while like me. I fixed it by telling the addon to pull data from more than 30 days. I made it 100 or so and it filled the gap. I also did the show more thing that francis said. I'm pretty sure I got all this info from the addon page in a google search that took me a whopping 5 seconds

zelaminator · July 2021

Rukia541 wrote: »

You need to link the sales , can force a link then it will just take history from that point on if you don't care. All its telling you is there is missing data so you probably were away for a while like me. I fixed it by telling the addon to pull data from more than 30 days. I made it 100 or so and it filled the gap. I also did the show more thing that francis said. I'm pretty sure I got all this info from the addon page in a google search that took me a whopping 5 seconds

How do you tell it to pull data from 100 days instead.?

ssewallb14_ESO · July 2021

It's libHistoire, more or less part of MM. ZoS added a cooldown to guild history requests from addons several updates ago, so now you have to sit there and spam E to manually update if you're in a high volume guild and don't play for long hours.

ADarklore · July 2021

This typically is only a problem when I log on quickly to check something and want to log off right away... I usually just FORCE the history link so I can log off.

CaffeinatedMayhem · July 2021

ssewallb14_ESO wrote: »

It's libHistoire, more or less part of MM. ZoS added a cooldown to guild history requests from addons several updates ago, so now you have to sit there and spam E to manually update if you're in a high volume guild and don't play for long hours.

Here, this us exactly what I was trying to say @starkerealm and @Amottica. The USER needs too take an action to correct this error.

Caligamy_ESO · July 2021

PEBKAC

sPark101 · July 2021

I have the exact same problem, I updated all my addons but nothing works. I gave up and just hit the alt button when logging out and assume this error is part of the game now.

VaranisArano · July 2021

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

Console players laugh at the ridiculousness of this being how players are expected to play when in trading guilds on PC.

Of course, thanks to addons, PC players have the benefit of being able to meet sales requirements instead of having to pay guild dues because console can't track your sales. I'll call it a fair trade-off personally.

Ingenon · July 2021

I think the whole guild trader experience is like night and day different between PC and console because of PC addons, and I wish ZOS would add the most popular capabilities of the addons to the game for everyone to enjoy.

Dojohoda · July 2021

I disabled LibHistoire on many of my characters because even though everything is linked, one or more was becoming unlinked almost daily. I decided that I needed it active on the characters that I used the most.

I considered that logging into both NA and EU could be a problem. MM seems to display data based on account name without including the server while LibHistoire seems to include the account name and server. That said, this observation is only from the user interface. I haven't looked into the data file, and I am not qualified to figure it out.

starkerealm · July 2021

sPark101 wrote: »

I have the exact same problem, I updated all my addons but nothing works. I gave up and just hit the alt button when logging out and assume this error is part of the game now.

It's not, turn off LibHistoire, and the error will go away. Turn it on when you need MM data, and force sync, but just keep it turned off the rest of the time.