No--what's wrong with trap beast? Plus, there's two morphs of accelate. It's a big buff so it's nice that it's so easily available, and the uptime is decent, plus trap does it's own DOT too.

Jaimeh wrote: »

No--what's wrong with trap beast? Plus, there's two morphs of accelarate. It's a big buff so it's nice that it's so easily available, and the uptime is decent, plus trap does it's own DOT too.

Because it's horrible to use, too slow.
Add to the fact bosses are constantly moving so you have to activate the trap beast over and over, and it's so slow and annoying. and the skill legit places near your feet , it could at least have a bit more range. It also makes rotations more annoying because of it's duration.
accelerate lacks the dps the trap beast has and the morphs are just ugh...

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

The easy solution is to increase the duration of Twilight Remedy's Minor Force to 20 seconds or above.

that's a mag set. this post is focused on stam gameplay.

kargen27 wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Jaimeh wrote: »

No--what's wrong with trap beast? Plus, there's two morphs of accelarate. It's a big buff so it's nice that it's so easily available, and the uptime is decent, plus trap does it's own DOT too.

Because it's horrible to use, too slow.
Add to the fact bosses are constantly moving so you have to activate the trap beast over and over, and it's so slow and annoying. and the skill legit places near your feet , it could at least have a bit more range.
accelerate lacks the dps the trap beast has and the morphs are just ugh...

Well it is a trap. Meaning you need to set it in advance. Sounds like you aren't so much asking for more choices just a better choice. Probably any skill that gets Minor Force is going to come with similar limitations.

bruh i legit wouldn't mind something with less damage than trap beast, like if trap beast did 100 dmg i wouldn't mind another dot with 80. That's how tired i am of having to be forced to use this skill.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

The easy solution is to increase the duration of Twilight Remedy's Minor Force to 20 seconds or above.

that's a mag set. this post is focused on stam gameplay.

My point is that your healer would wear it and everyone in group could forget about Trap Beast forever.

That would be great. Idk which healer set we’d replace, with RoJo, Olo, and Stone-Talker being so important, but it would be nice to have the option.

As for stamina DPS, have you tried Tzogvin’s. It gives Minor Force, more crit than Leviathan, and a line of Penetration. It also works well as a front bar set.

I agree that Barbed Trap can be annoying sometimes. I still would never recommend using Channeled Acceleration for any fight longer than 36s. Recasting it in combat completely negates the damage increase. Better to just go without Minor Force if the only option is Accel.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

The easy solution is to increase the duration of Twilight Remedy's Minor Force to 20 seconds or above.

I like this suggestion. They could honestly even remove the heal portion of it if they can't justify having it heal as well as providing minor force. The important part is that it should give you 100% uptime without needing Jorvulds (because that would make it a bit restrictive and not play nice with other support sets).

Doesn't hurt to have more options as long as it compares favorably to the existing one.

Currently we have one that does some physical damage but lower uptime. And one that does no damage, but a higher uptime.

Perhaps we can have one that's a magic dot, or one that doesn't do damage but does some secondary effect that makes it a lower uptime than the Psijic order skill in exchange for that secondary effect.

#bufftwilightremedy

I am currently attempting to get a buff to TR on the PTS we will see if our cries are heard

Dojohoda wrote: »

I use Medusa a lot of the times on my magicka nightblade. It's nice to not have to cast a skill for something. Casting buffs is tiresome.

Yes, I use it on the frontbar of my magsorc as well, with magsorc you only cast a couple skills from the backbar so the minor force is active most of the time.

I still want it on spam essence. and yes, I obviously use CA lolz

itscompton wrote: »

paulychan wrote: »

yes, plz add to spam essence. ty... a bomber

If you're a bomber you should already be getting if from Channeled Acceleration.
Might be something for the OP to look into running as well. It's not doing any damage but you get major expedition for 12 seconds and minor force for 36 seconds in return for a 1 second cast time. You might very well make up the lost DPS not having to run around trying to place the trap where the boss will trigger it.

I wouldn't use channeled because of the cast time, but i could potentially use this without morphs and see how it works.
The issue is, it has no damage, i'm not sure if that hurts dps a lot or not. Since it gives me time to use almost 2 spammables

sarahthes wrote: »

There are already at least 4 different decent sources of minor force depending on your playstyle. Two from sets (tzogvin, medusa) and 2 from skills (trap, accelerate & morphs).

I really don't think there's a need for more. I like that the skills are from guild skill lines meaning accessible to all classes.

Trap isn't necessarily meta either, which is why I didn't vote. Which skill you use depends entirely on the encounter.

wait, did you just say trap isn't meta, when it has been used on all stam dps builds for years now?

TheForFeeF wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

Jaimeh wrote: »

No--what's wrong with trap beast? Plus, there's two morphs of accelarate. It's a big buff so it's nice that it's so easily available, and the uptime is decent, plus trap does it's own DOT too.

Because it's horrible to use, too slow.
Add to the fact bosses are constantly moving so you have to activate the trap beast over and over, and it's so slow and annoying. and the skill legit places near your feet , it could at least have a bit more range. It also makes rotations more annoying because of it's duration.
accelerate lacks the dps the trap beast has and the morphs are just ugh...

You do know that you don't have to move it when the boss moves right? Once the boss has triggered it, its on the boss for 17 seconds, then you need to recast it.

but it takes like 1.5 sec to activate, how will i be sure it's already on the boss?
but thanks for the info, i thought the trap did aoe dmg...