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Elsweyr Event Endeavors (DLC Required)
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1) Kill a Dragon
2) Mine 5 Jewel Seams
3) Craft 1 Vastarie’s Tutelage Item
4) Loot 1 Thieves Trove
5) Deal 100000 Damage w/ Seige Weapons
Seems to me you can’t get all three without interacting with a DLC
2) Mine 5 Jewel Seams
3) Craft 1 Vastarie’s Tutelage Item
4) Loot 1 Thieves Trove
5) Deal 100000 Damage w/ Seige Weapons
Seems to me you can’t get all three without interacting with a DLC
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Marcus_Aurelius✭✭✭✭✭Well, you could join a Guild maybe?
All my guilds have all the crafting stations in one house.
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Gythral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Mine jewelry seams - I thought you could access them without Summerset but couldnt refine them, so 3 can be done without the 2 chapters/ESO+!Edited by Gythral on July 22, 2021 7:02AM“Be as a tower, that, firmly set,
Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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markulrich1966✭✭✭✭✭
✭you need the DLC only for the dragon.
The set can be crafted in a guildhall, the other 3 have no relation with Elsweyr at all.8 -
GenjiraX✭✭✭✭✭
Do you need the Thieves Guild DLC for the troves or do you still have access to them after unlocking them during a free ESO+ weekend?markulrich1966 wrote: »you need the DLC only for the dragon.
The set can be crafted in a guildhall, the other 3 have no relation with Elsweyr at all.
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MajThorax✭✭✭✭✭Endeavors are a way to put pressure on some players to buy chapters, dlcs or eso+. Stop being so surprised every day the moment they reset. It's been a month already.20 -
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Do you need the Thieves Guild DLC for the troves or do you still have access to them after unlocking them during a free ESO+ weekend?markulrich1966 wrote: »you need the DLC only for the dragon.
The set can be crafted in a guildhall, the other 3 have no relation with Elsweyr at all.
found this in the uesp wiki:
"Thieves Troves are small wooden containers marked with the Thieves Guild symbol that can be found across Tamriel. They have a distinctive blue glow and often contain valuable items. The troves cannot be opened unless you have the ability to learn the Finders Keepers passive in the Thieves GuildCrown Store skill tree, which requires ownership of the Thieves Guild DLC (see notes)."
So once the passive is unlocked even during a free weekend, it should work.Edited by markulrich1966 on July 22, 2021 7:57AM5 -
markulrich1966✭✭✭✭✭
✭Endeavors are a way to put pressure on some players to buy chapters, dlcs or eso+. Stop being so surprised every day the moment they reset. It's been a month already.
2) Mine 5 Jewel Seams
ultra-easy, no DLC. Just run around in a basegame region for 5 minutes close to rocks.
3) Craft 1 Vastarie’s Tutelage Item
easy, requires to know only 3 traits of any piece of gear. Crafting station in guildhall
5) Deal 100000 Damage w/ Seige Weapons
still easy, no PVP experience required. Place a fire ballista (costs 450 gold at a siege merchant) close to an enemy resource in cyrodiil (mill, farm, mine), and fire 3-5 shots on the guards at the flag.
All 3 are very easy tasks, require no DLC at all. So easy, that I was astonished that they offer 25 seals.
I don't see the "pressure to buy DLCs" here, as these are valid easy alternatives to the other 2 that require a DLC (Elsweyr/Thieves Guild).
Edited by markulrich1966 on July 22, 2021 8:12AM11 -
trackdemon5512✭✭✭✭✭
✭markulrich1966 wrote: »Endeavors are a way to put pressure on some players to buy chapters, dlcs or eso+. Stop being so surprised every day the moment they reset. It's been a month already.
2) Mine 5 Jewel Seams
ultra-easy, no DLC. Just run around in a basegame region for 5 minutes close to rocks.
3) Craft 1 Vastarie’s Tutelage Item
easy, requires to know only 3 traits of any piece of gear. Crafting station in guildhall
5) Deal 100000 Damage w/ Seige Weapons
still easy, no PVP experience required. Place a fire ballista (costs 450 gold at a siege merchant) close to an enemy resource in cyrodiil (mill, farm, mine), and fire 3-5 shots on the guards at the flag.
All 3 are very easy tasks, require no DLC at all. So easy, that I was astonished that they offer 25 seals.
I don't see the "pressure to buy DLCs" here, as these are valid easy alternatives to the other 2 that require a DLC (Elsweyr/Thieves Guild).
Dragons are all DLC content.
Vastarie’s Tutelage is a DLC craftable set located in Elsweyr.
Thieves Troves require interacting with one while the DLC is unlocked in order to access it.
3 out of the 5 specifically REQUIRE access to a DLC. Yes you can argue semantics about using a craft house for Vastarie’s Tutelage or getting the Thieves Guild skill line unlocked during a free weekend. BUT any player with just the base game alone is in the barest terms unable to get all 3 daily endeavors today without one.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭trackdemon5512 wrote: »markulrich1966 wrote: »Endeavors are a way to put pressure on some players to buy chapters, dlcs or eso+. Stop being so surprised every day the moment they reset. It's been a month already.
2) Mine 5 Jewel Seams
ultra-easy, no DLC. Just run around in a basegame region for 5 minutes close to rocks.
3) Craft 1 Vastarie’s Tutelage Item
easy, requires to know only 3 traits of any piece of gear. Crafting station in guildhall
5) Deal 100000 Damage w/ Seige Weapons
still easy, no PVP experience required. Place a fire ballista (costs 450 gold at a siege merchant) close to an enemy resource in cyrodiil (mill, farm, mine), and fire 3-5 shots on the guards at the flag.
All 3 are very easy tasks, require no DLC at all. So easy, that I was astonished that they offer 25 seals.
I don't see the "pressure to buy DLCs" here, as these are valid easy alternatives to the other 2 that require a DLC (Elsweyr/Thieves Guild).
Dragons are all DLC content.
Vastarie’s Tutelage is a DLC craftable set located in Elsweyr.
Thieves Troves require interacting with one while the DLC is unlocked in order to access it.
3 out of the 5 specifically REQUIRE access to a DLC. Yes you can argue semantics about using a craft house for Vastarie’s Tutelage or getting the Thieves Guild skill line unlocked during a free weekend. BUT any player with just the base game alone is in the barest terms unable to get all 3 daily endeavors today without one.
The fact that the craftable set is available in guild halls really means that anyone with only the base game can easily use it without owning the dlc. It's not just a semantical thing, it saves people real money and has a massive impact on their ability to do it without owning the dlc and having no free trial passives.
I believe you also fight a dragon in the Southern Elysweyr prologue quest.
Edited by spartaxoxo on July 22, 2021 8:55AM9 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I understand some people are unable to unwilling to buy DLC and it may be disproportionately expensive or impractical due to their circumstances, meaning it's not a reasonable thing to suggest they do.
But if you're missing parts of the game I think you have to accept that you will, well, miss parts of the game. It's not unreasonable for games to include things in their DLC which are not accessible to players who don't own it, because the whole point of DLC is to add new things.
At least in this case you can get seals of endeavour in other ways. You can do the 2 tasks which don't require DLC and still get seals from them and on other days there will be 3 you can do. It will slightly slow down the rate at which you get seals overall but it doesn't prevent you from eventually getting enough to buy something.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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✭✭trackdemon5512 wrote: »1) Kill a Dragon
2) Mine 5 Jewel Seams
3) Craft 1 Vastarie’s Tutelage Item
4) Loot 1 Thieves Trove
5) Deal 100000 Damage w/ Seige Weapons
Seems to me you can’t get all three without interacting with a DLC
Kill a dragon
Dragon hold prologue
Mine jewelery
As far as i know anybody can do it
Craft vastary tutelage
If your are in a guild with a crafting all you can do it without the dlc
Thieve trove
I grant you that one
Damage with siege
Attack a farm with a siege easy to do
I sugest 1-2-3 or replace 3 by 5 if no crafting hall2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Mine seams, loot a thieves trove, and deal siege damage are done without a dlc, or a need for a guid hall. Fir the siege one, you can equip a meatbag catapult, go to a resource and hit the guards on the flag, you get the seal within one hit.0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mine seams, loot a thieves trove, and deal siege damage are done without a dlc, or a need for a guid hall. Fir the siege one, you can equip a meatbag catapult, go to a resource and hit the guards on the flag, you get the seal within one hit.
The thieves trove requires either DLC access or prior DLC access, as you need Thieves Guild to interact with your first one.1 -
Wyrd88✭✭✭✭This is just a joke at this point.
People want to complain about PaYwAlLeD CoNtEnT!!115 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »trackdemon5512 wrote: »1) Kill a Dragon
2) Mine 5 Jewel Seams
3) Craft 1 Vastarie’s Tutelage Item
4) Loot 1 Thieves Trove
5) Deal 100000 Damage w/ Seige Weapons
Seems to me you can’t get all three without interacting with a DLC
Kill a dragon
Dragon hold prologue
Mine jewelery
As far as i know anybody can do it
Craft vastary tutelage
If your are in a guild with a crafting all you can do it without the dlc
Thieve trove
I grant you that one
Damage with siege
Attack a farm with a siege easy to do
I sugest 1-2-3 or replace 3 by 5 if no crafting hall
If you have access to a guild hall, I recommend skipping the dragon one and doing the siege as it's far shorter. Just go to a place with low combat to avoid pvp and it will be done in like a minute.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »trackdemon5512 wrote: »1) Kill a Dragon
2) Mine 5 Jewel Seams
3) Craft 1 Vastarie’s Tutelage Item
4) Loot 1 Thieves Trove
5) Deal 100000 Damage w/ Seige Weapons
Seems to me you can’t get all three without interacting with a DLC
Kill a dragon
Dragon hold prologue
Mine jewelery
As far as i know anybody can do it
Craft vastary tutelage
If your are in a guild with a crafting all you can do it without the dlc
Thieve trove
I grant you that one
Damage with siege
Attack a farm with a siege easy to do
I sugest 1-2-3 or replace 3 by 5 if no crafting hall
If you have access to a guild hall, I recommend skipping the dragon one and doing the siege as it's far shorter. Just go to a place with low combat to avoid pvp and it will be done in like a minute.
Doesn't the event start in five hours? I suspect there's going to be a lot more attention on those flying lizards after that kicks over. (Though, the path of least resistance is the mining, crafting, and trove, if you have TG unlocked.)1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »trackdemon5512 wrote: »1) Kill a Dragon
2) Mine 5 Jewel Seams
3) Craft 1 Vastarie’s Tutelage Item
4) Loot 1 Thieves Trove
5) Deal 100000 Damage w/ Seige Weapons
Seems to me you can’t get all three without interacting with a DLC
Kill a dragon
Dragon hold prologue
Mine jewelery
As far as i know anybody can do it
Craft vastary tutelage
If your are in a guild with a crafting all you can do it without the dlc
Thieve trove
I grant you that one
Damage with siege
Attack a farm with a siege easy to do
I sugest 1-2-3 or replace 3 by 5 if no crafting hall
If you have access to a guild hall, I recommend skipping the dragon one and doing the siege as it's far shorter. Just go to a place with low combat to avoid pvp and it will be done in like a minute.
Doesn't the event start in five hours? I suspect there's going to be a lot more attention on those flying lizards after that kicks over. (Though, the path of least resistance is the mining, crafting, and trove, if you have TG unlocked.)
Yes. But this advice is for people who don't have access to any of the DLC. So they can't just go to Elsweyr for the event. And can't loot thieves troves.
Therefore, assuming they have a guild hall, the path of least resistance would be Siege, Mine, and Craft. They should only do the Prologue if they either don't have access to a guild hall, or if they have some kind of anxiety issue around entering PVP.
If they don't have access to a guild hall either their only options then become Dragonguard prologue, Mine, and Siege.Edited by spartaxoxo on July 22, 2021 10:14AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Yes. But this advice is for people who don't have access to any of the DLC. So they can't just go to Elsweyr for the event. And can't loot thieves troves.
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✭✭I've searched but failed to find any information that claims that Endeavors would be restricted to base game, so what's the problem with requiring DLCs or ESO+?6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I've searched but failed to find any information that claims that Endeavors would be restricted to base game, so what's the problem with requiring DLCs or ESO+?
I agree. And it would be a slap in the face to those of us that fully support the game (by owning all its pieces) to take DLC content out of the endeavor mix. Not to mention severely restricting the menu of what the devs can pick from in coming up with a large and varied stable of endeavor tasks to avoid excess repetition.
We all make choices and choices have consequences. I own all the content but I won't do PvP or DB endeavors for example.Edited by AcadianPaladin on July 22, 2021 11:52AMPC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo7 -
HertoginJanneke✭✭✭✭Another topic about not being able to do some endeavors because a DLC is needed. Again :-(
It is very simple, if you don't own a DLC, don't complain about not being able to do content that belongs to that DLC. [Snip]
[Edited for baiting]Edited by ZOS_Volpe on July 22, 2021 1:38PM8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Look, I'm just going to be blunt.
Seals of Endeavor are not designed to let every player complete the max endeavors every day, get loads of Seals, and buy whatever they want from the Crown Crate for free.
Seals are just ZOS' excuse for "We swear Crown Crates aren't really gambling, please don't regulate us!"
Once you really look at the new system, it's pretty clear that it's designed to protect Crown Crate profits. It is in no way a replacement for buying Crown Crates nor is it particularly friendly to a variety of players. Are you new, don't own the DLC, hate PVP, or have limited time to play? Good luck! Do you want to collect lower tier rewards like the complete set of style pages? Have fun grinding most of your way toward an Apex mount.
If you look at Seals of Endeavor as something you get occasionally as you play the game and use them to pick up "free" rewards from the Crown Crates, it's not too bad.
When you let it dictate what you do in your limited playtime or you fret about your fear of missing out because you don't own DLC/hate PVP/whatever, that's when it's all too easy to end up on the road to burned out. Not only is it exhausting to deal with ZOS mashing that FOMO button all the time, but it's also exhausting to chase a carrot you'll never really catch.16 -
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✭✭You really don't even need a guild hall or a guild.
Ask in zone chat. Some people have the things at their house, or they can group with you, go to their own guild halls and then you can teleport to them and be in the guild hall.PC NA2 -
JoDiMageio✭✭✭✭✭Seals of Endeavour were marketed as things you would earn by doing things you already do. If you don't own a DLC, then you aren't regularly doing these things to begin with, and when you read the news article related endeavours, at no point was there a guarantee that you would be able to maximise all your endeavours every day - simply that there would be some things you can do every day, because they are chosen to give every playstyle a chance to earn some.
People make choices, and those choices have consequences - in this case, choosing not to own a DLC means that you cannot participate in activities related to that DLC. There are still things that can be accomplished without it.6 -
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✭VaranisArano wrote: »Look, I'm just going to be blunt.
Seals of Endeavor are not designed to let every player complete the max endeavors every day, get loads of Seals, and buy whatever they want from the Crown Crate for free.
Seals are just ZOS' excuse for "We swear Crown Crates aren't really gambling, please don't regulate us!"
Once you really look at the new system, it's pretty clear that it's designed to protect Crown Crate profits. It is in no way a replacement for buying Crown Crates nor is it particularly friendly to a variety of players. Are you new, don't own the DLC, hate PVP, or have limited time to play? Good luck! Do you want to collect lower tier rewards like the complete set of style pages? Have fun grinding most of your way toward an Apex mount.
If you look at Seals of Endeavor as something you get occasionally as you play the game and use them to pick up "free" rewards from the Crown Crates, it's not too bad.
When you let it dictate what you do in your limited playtime or you fret about your fear of missing out because you don't own DLC/hate PVP/whatever, that's when it's all too easy to end up on the road to burned out. Not only is it exhausting to deal with ZOS mashing that FOMO button all the time, but it's also exhausting to chase a carrot you'll never really catch.
Those Oroboros crates are pretty bad too. Nothing ever really drops from them so I gave up on looking at streams.
I don't do seals either, they just naturally occur and I go 'oh ok'.
I just log in and do my daily writs and some PvP until it lags. If someone doesn't like something then don't do it and especially don't feel forced, we are here to play.Edited by Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo on July 22, 2021 12:57PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Mine seams, loot a thieves trove, and deal siege damage are done without a dlc, or a need for a guid hall. Fir the siege one, you can equip a meatbag catapult, go to a resource and hit the guards on the flag, you get the seal within one hit.
The thieves trove requires either DLC access or prior DLC access, as you need Thieves Guild to interact with your first one.
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danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The more DLC you have purchased, the more Endeavors you can do. What's the problem with this?7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Maybe it's just me, but "access to a guild with a crafting-bench-tricked-out guildhall" seems a lot harder than "access to a DLC". /shrug
That said - ok, sure. There've been endeavors I've skipped several times a week because they require DLC. That's nothing new. I skip the PvP ones (by choice) as well. No biggie.
(I have all the zones up through Murkmire. Don't have Elsweyr year or Skyrim year.)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »Maybe it's just me, but "access to a guild with a crafting-bench-tricked-out guildhall" seems a lot harder than "access to a DLC". /shrug
If you're not in a guild like that, a lot of times friends, guildmates, and people in Zone will allow you to use their guildhall.3
