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Stealth not working in PvE combat

moo_2021
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I can pass through mobs unnoticed, but in combat most of time it fails, unlike in PvP

Just tried to take world boss Lady Solace alone, my Shadowy Disguise was entirely useless against Lady Solace - she kept launching direct attacks on me while I was invisible and even out of AoE range!

Is this the expected behavior? Should I get Dark Cloak for healing instead?
  • Vevvev
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    When you cloak any projectiles in flight targeting you will still fly at you, and when they hit they pull you out of cloak. NPCs when winding up an AoE attack will still cast it where you were after you turned invisible which is especially noticeable on guards who throw a flare immediately. Cloak in ESO requires some preparation before using if you wish it to actually work like dodge rolling first and then casting it as well as using line of sight denial.

    Also on the PTS they're buffing invisibility and sneaking to be more reliable for the next patch. They're also buffing the player skills designed in revealing stealthed individuals for PvP and minor PvE.
    Adjusted many player abilities to no longer attempt to remove Stealth or Invisibility when they should not. This is also expanded to any Damage over Time effect, rather than only single target Damage over Time effects, as we want the removal and denial of Stealth and Invisibility to be more active rather than passive.
    This means that the only player abilities that should remove stealth are Area of Effect Direct Damage, Stuns, Fears, or Immobilizes, as well as Reveals. Attacks made with Detection potions active may still damage the target but will not strip their Stealth or Invisibility.

    Also fixed many issues where attacks that were checking in areas regularly to hit singular targets could target Stealthed or Invisible targets, such as Force Pulse or Shrouded Dagger’s bouncing attacks. Any attack that checks in an area to attack singular targets will no longer attempt to even apply to targets under these effects.

    Developer Comment:
    The main goals with these adjustments were to improve the consistency and reliability of things like Shadow Cloak, while also stamping out more deliberate rules on what should counter the effects. Currently, these effects have a lot of frustrating counters, mainly ones that feel like the attacker is getting for free on attacks they’d be using naturally regardless (such as pulsing AoE DoTs) making it relatively easy to deny Stealth and Invisibility when you know how. While we did spend a lot of time helping these effects feel more reliable, we also buffed many of the more deliberate sources of Stealth and Invisibility denial to make counteracting them feel better in general and to better reward going out of your way to utilize them.
    PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK
  • moo_2021
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    Vevvev wrote: »
    When you cloak any projectiles in flight targeting you will still fly at you, and when they hit they pull you out of cloak. NPCs when winding up an AoE attack will still cast it where you were after you turned invisible which is especially noticeable on guards who throw a flare immediately. Cloak in ESO requires some preparation before using if you wish it to actually work like dodge rolling first and then casting it as well as using line of sight denial.

    I noticed that when fighting against dungeon mobs, but the case with Lady Solace seems clear that she wasn't attacking me when I cloaked, and then she did new attacks while I was invisible.

    I tried to retreat a bit farther while cloaked and then she's reset... 20% health left :s

    Or maybe it's multi-target attack like what'll be fixed in next patch?

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    As level 23 nb I found it surprisingly easy to deal with mobs but those non-humanoid bosses are really difficult and seemly bugged, melee attacks fail often, cloak fails, and sometimes I get hit by AoE right after moving out of red zone... Very odd experience compared to magicka / ranged based characters.
  • CaffeinatedMayhem
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    Cloak is behaving weirdly in both PvP and PvE - mobs in PvP (IC) are also "seeing" me although I was cloaked entering their aggro range and remained cloaked (did not miss a pull) as I passed through. WW light attacks are PREVENTING cloak... which is odd, because whenever I'm fighting a NB (on magden, my PvP main), regular LA's and skills do NOT prevent them cloaking-out mid skill and having my shalk miss them. But when I'm on a NB, WW swipes DO keep me from cloaking. Which honestly sounds like some of U31's changes got loaded into live...
    Edited by CaffeinatedMayhem on July 20, 2021 4:10PM
  • Four_Fingers
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    Yes, those resource flag guards can see me across the map it seems when I am in stealth.
    Edited by Four_Fingers on July 20, 2021 5:52PM
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