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Stupid stam sorc proc-meta
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Flaaklypa✭✭✭✭✭put on some better build than light amor julianos[snip]
[edited for baiting]Edited by ZOS_Icy on July 19, 2021 10:56AM2 -
ShawnLaRock✭✭✭✭✭
✭I am very curious as to what your excuse is for the other 4 out of 5 skills that hit you, that had nothing to do with a proc set?
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Togal✭✭✭✭If you have a high damage build with no defense you can expect to get slammed for alot of damage.5
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Marcus_Aurelius✭✭✭✭✭I could show tons of death recaps full of frags in BGs
When the stupid magsorc meta will end?3 -
Lady_Galadhiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Insulting others won't help your problem.Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
ESO plus status: Cancelled
ESO currently uninstalled.10 -
DTStormfox✭✭✭✭✭Only Frenzied Momentum is a proc in your example but I do get your point.
The proc set meta has been the meta for a long time now (excluding the no-proc test period).
If you don't like proc sets at all, in the next chapter there will be a no-proc Cyrodiil campaign.1 -
vesselwiththepestle✭✭✭✭✭
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You do realize, with the exception of Dawnbreaker, everything else will hit at the same time? The medium attack (stated as heavy attack) will proc Crystal Weapon and Frenzied Momentum. This will be animation canceled into Whirling Blades. You can't dodge Whirling Blades and you will be low on stamina because you just had to break free. If you couldn't break free yet (lag, desync etc.), you definitely can't block anyway.ShawnLaRock wrote: »I am very curious as to what your excuse is for the other 4 out of 5 skills that hit you, that had nothing to do with a proc set?
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Very probably the build ran Balorgh, which adds a lot of weapon damage and physical penetration, probably the build even ran sharpened maces, which would any comments about light armor Julianos pointless, as all this adds together to A LOT of penetration.
The typical StamSorc burst build would have had probably another proc set, though. Maybe it was on cooldown.1000+ CP
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L_Nici✭✭✭✭✭
✭Honestly that numbers are not even that strong. It looks more like a Stamsorc that tried to abuse the procs and failed. Thats 27.7k Damage with 4 attacks and DB in the recap, I met a warden today that dealt 27.2k Damage with Sub and DB alone.Edited by L_Nici on July 19, 2021 10:59AMPC|EU3 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Honestly that numbers are not even that strong. It looks more like a Stamsorc that tried to abuse the procs and failed. Thats 27.7k Damage with 4 attacks and DB in the recap, I met a warden today that dealt 27.2k Damage with Sub and DB alone.
Or a necro blowing you up with blastbones + avid boneyard synergy in the blink of an eye. There's worse things out there than stam sorcs.7 -
Deep_01✭✭✭✭Pretty sure it's your build that is unoptimized.
Those tooltips are what you get with 14k to 16k resists on mdk. Remember, Light armor has 1% increased marital damage taken penalty. The difference in damage taken is super-noticable, that light armor is no longer viable unless you want a glass cannon. For a balanced build you need heavy armor passives, resists and burst heals (Tested various combos).
I have been playing mdk for majority of blackwood, a no cp variant of nirnstorm's build:
2x bloodspawn,
1x BSW gloves/belt/shoes, 2x infused spell dmg BSW jewels,
3x Heavy mechanical acuity body pieces (pariah does wonders too)
1x swift trait ring of the wild hunt
Front bar BSW sharpened inferno staff (Engulfing, ele drain, cauterize, molten whip, burning embers, leap)
Backbar mechanical acuity sword and shield ( fossilize, race against time, meditate, coag blood, volatile armor, spell wall)
Dark elf, atro mundus, Ozarga's food that gives max hp + mag regen only, all impen, no vamp. Aim for 30k hp. I got 28k/25k resist without bloodspawn proc. Sustian is the build's weakness, so run and meditate behind cover whenever you are not doing a burst combo.
Like ZOS says in U31 combat preview, TTK is low, so play smart. Dont face-tank. Kite, retreat, LoS, time your blocks etc.@Deepan on PC-EU1 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This game should just remove damage.
Because no matter what people die to, they just come here to complain about it.
This is what happened to Oblivion damage, bleed damage, etc ...
It killed me, when will this be nerfed....
Just remove damage, and everyone can just stand around looking at each other's gear....🙄Edited by Kel on July 19, 2021 12:06PM18 -
Mitaka211✭✭✭✭PVP has been honestly great for me, i haven''t come across anything that i found to be "unjust". If you go full damage you can kill people fast but you also die in 2 hits, if you are tanky you can survive the high damage and two shot the full burst build , it's great lol.
I don't even mind the NBs , they are literal assasins. They can kill distracted targets but if one player focuses them their effords are nullified, same as high damage sorcs. For some reason NBs tend to get really triggered with me ruining their fun, I am not stupid man i know you can kill my whole team chill
Edited by Mitaka211 on July 19, 2021 12:19PM0 -
Lady_Galadhiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This game should just remove damage.
Because no matter what people die to, they just come here to complain about it.
This is what happened to Oblivion damage, bleed damage, etc ...
It killed me, when will this be nerfed....
Just remove damage, and everyone can just stand around looking at each other's gear....🙄
It will be a stare contest ( ●__●)Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
ESO plus status: Cancelled
ESO currently uninstalled.0 -
AhSeLYaG✭✭✭This game should just remove damage.
Because no matter what people die to, they just come here to complain about it.
This is what happened to Oblivion damage, bleed damage, etc ...
It killed me, when will this be nerfed....
Just remove damage, and everyone can just stand around looking at each other's gear....🙄
As simple as that +1✌️0 -
universal_wrath✭✭✭✭✭Miloscpolski wrote: »
When zos rework 2h vet, crtystal weapon and other heavy attack sets.0 -
NylAR✭✭✭✭Marcus_Aurelius wrote: »I could show tons of death recaps full of frags in BGs
When the stupid magsorc meta will end?
Wonderful, ZOS! Absolutely brilliant. You done [Snip] it up so bad you got sorcs arguing between themselves now.
I'm truly amazed! Nerf sorc btw 😜
[Edit to remove profanity]Edited by [Deleted User] on July 19, 2021 8:24PM0 -
AuraNebula✭✭✭✭✭This game should just remove damage.
Because no matter what people die to, they just come here to complain about it.
This is what happened to Oblivion damage, bleed damage, etc ...
It killed me, when will this be nerfed....
Just remove damage, and everyone can just stand around looking at each other's gear....🙄
It's the new chapter Elder Scrolls Online: Dremora Fashionistas0 -
SpiritofESO✭✭✭✭
Edited by SpiritofESO on June 29, 2024 4:23PM-
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sorcerers have way too much damage and way too much defenses.
been that way for over 8 years now.
i hate it, we all hate it fighting them, but i think the devs want it that way. i dont know why it is this way. i pray to Jesus that one day it will change.3 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sorcerers have way too much damage and way too much defenses.
been that way for over 8 years now.
i hate it, we all hate it fighting them, but i think the devs want it that way. i dont know why it is this way. i pray to Jesus that one day it will change.
And Jesus will grant your wish with an over-tuned Jesus Beam.2 -
coletas✭✭✭✭sorcerers have way too much damage and way too much defenses.
been that way for over 8 years now.
i hate it, we all hate it fighting them, but i think the devs want it that way. i dont know why it is this way. i pray to Jesus that one day it will change.
And Jesus will grant your wish with an over-tuned Jesus Beam.
Next patch my friend hahaha0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sorcerers have way too much damage and way too much defenses.
been that way for over 8 years now.
i hate it, we all hate it fighting them, but i think the devs want it that way. i dont know why it is this way. i pray to Jesus that one day it will change.
Too much defense? You mean Hurricane, the same major resolve buff literally every class in the game has? Stam sorcs don't have access to any other form of mitigation that I'm aware of, nor do they have access to mending/vitality to boost their healing. There's streak, but last time I used that to try and get away they just used gap closers until I was forced to turn around and fight them.1 -
Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭sorcerers have way too much damage and way too much defenses.
been that way for over 8 years now.
i hate it, we all hate it fighting them, but i think the devs want it that way. i dont know why it is this way. i pray to Jesus that one day it will change.
Is that because you died to a stam sorc while you were trying to stealth snipe?
Edited by Girl_Number8 on July 20, 2021 1:15PM4 -
Odovacar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sorcs have always, imo, been OP or riding the fine line of one of the best classes in PvP. I know i know...there are a lot of cases to be made but ultimately if you're semi-decent of a player and roll a sorc you'll be smacking people. I don't see much changing OP... take a deep breath and fight on.1 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sorcs have always, imo, been OP or riding the fine line of one of the best classes in PvP. I know i know...there are a lot of cases to be made but ultimately if you're semi-decent of a player and roll a sorc you'll be smacking people. I don't see much changing OP... take a deep breath and fight on.
Do you mean mag sorcs? Because stam sorcs used to be completely trash for the longest time. No class damaging skills, barely any stam morphs at all, bad mitigation and healing. They just had nothing going for them. At one time surge was pretty powerful when you could crit rush and replenish like half your health bar, but they "fixed" that.1 -
Viewsfrom6ix✭✭✭✭✭Yeah no, stam/mag sorcs are by no means the best PvP class or broken. At best A tier, maybe...
There is one only viable build for stamsorcs atm and it is the 3 proc 1 shot build which gets countered hard if you have enough healing.
Magsorcs are just roll dodging glass canons. I've seen plenty magsorcs and hit hard but the moment you touch them, they just drop.
This shouldn't be a nerf sorc thread but a nerf 2h vate.Edited by Viewsfrom6ix on July 20, 2021 2:00PM0
