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Horrid RNG for Powerful Assault boxes
pleximus
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So, I opened about 100 Powerful Assault boxes and didn't get a single damage staff. NOT A SINGLE ONE!! I only got a restoration staff. I just wasted 300k tel var for nothing. This is just disgusting! Who thought that making the staff RNG for this set night impossible was a good idea? The ice staff alone is up for sale for 1.7M GOLD!! Is THIS what ZOS intended...?
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Bigmatt2✭✭✭It's crazy what that staff is priced at. Not sure anyone is paying that price though, I certainly won't.
I try my luck once a week and like you, no desto staff.
Frustrating for sure.1 -
hcbigdogdoghc✭✭✭✭✭That set is like what? A 3-4% dps boost? And that's assuming 100% uptime on a set with a range of 10m and a duration of 10 seconds at a cost of nearly 3k stam.
Thing's not worth 1.7 million gold or weeks worth of tel var.
One of the most overrated set in the game 100%1 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭It's crazy what that staff is priced at. Not sure anyone is paying that price though, I certainly won't.
I try my luck once a week and like you, no desto staff.
Frustrating for sure.
I just don't understand what the purpose of making items hard to get is when THEY KNOW the price for them will be insanely high! 1.7M for a bloody ice staff? You kidding me?!? ZOS needs to rethink their strategy about RNG from boxes especially when you open 100 of them and get nothing.2 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »That set is like what? A 3-4% dps boost? And that's assuming 100% uptime on a set with a range of 10m and a duration of 10 seconds at a cost of nearly 3k stam.
Thing's not worth 1.7 million gold or weeks worth of tel var.
One of the most overrated set in the game 100%
That's not really the point. The RNG shouldn't make it nigh impossible to get an item especially after opening 100 boxes. It's deranged logic!0 -
Jim_Pipp✭✭✭✭✭
✭My first ever comment on these forums was about how RNG is random, and perceived imbalances are due to small sample sizes...
... over years of personally grinding, my personal sample size makes me believe there are weighted loot tables; it is not random enough. I had the same problems getting my collection of powerful assault, more recently I laugh at the dozens of companion maces I sell while waiting for a single companion destro staff to drop - maybe it is random, but it feels like a pattern.
I thought this bit in the 7.10 pts patch notes gave an interesting clue to how weighted rng may work in ESO:
"Rebalanced the Master Writ randomization across the Blacksmithing, Woodworking, and Clothing crafts to produce an equal chance of a random item set to craft. Previously, some sets inadvertently had a slightly higher chance to be generated."#1 tip (Re)check your graphics settings periodically - especially resolution.3 -
Fennwitty✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »That set is like what? A 3-4% dps boost? And that's assuming 100% uptime on a set with a range of 10m and a duration of 10 seconds at a cost of nearly 3k stam.
Thing's not worth 1.7 million gold or weeks worth of tel var.
One of the most overrated set in the game 100%
Regardless of the mechanics, Powerful Assault is still considered a very desired tank set. So there's lots of pressure on tanks to have it.PC NA0 -
Obsidian3✭✭✭✭I used to believe the loot tables were manipulated, but after 7 years of farming my RNG is great for Kuta, Aetherial Dust, and Plentiful Harvest, but my RNG for gear, Nirncrux and Perfect Roe is horrible. <Shrug>
Been talking a break playing SWTOR and the RNG over there seems much more forgiving.0 -
jssriot✭✭✭✭✭
✭RNG is suppose to be random. There are plenty of sites online that explain how randomness doesn't necessary meet our expectations.
HOWEVER, there are very consistant patterns with certain things, like the same motif page of a motif being rarer, or drops like that, that are really hard to believe are random. I bought 42 Curse Eater boxes the other day and got only 1 weapon out of those, and a whole lot of gloves and rings. And don't get me started on when I spend god knows how many Key Fragments to complete my SPC set and chest after chest I got like 90% Essence Thief and when I complained about it in my guild chat, literally every response was "Yeah, I had that happen too. ZOS must really want us to use Essence Thief!"
But here's the thing with RNG: if ZOS did code it so certain pieces drops even slightly less or more, it can make a massive difference when you add RNG into that mix and that's long been my suspicion. I don't know why, maybe they just think that there's more armor pieces so that needs a slightly higher chance than a weapon. But you'd think by know, after years of people complaining about this very exact thing over and over--that however RNG and loot tables are coded, the end result is a lot of wasted time and currency and a lot of frustration across MANY players, which is bad game design--they'd do something.PC-NA since 2015. Tired and unimpressed.0 -
Grandchamp1989✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I spend almost 60k telvar..
Got 2 bows
4 guards
4 boots
and some jewelry
That's a buttload of duplicates..
It should honestly prioritize in RNG the items you're missing from your collection to add some sort of modifier in your favor.
I have also tried to get ice staffs from Drake's Rush, Arkasis and Alkosh in forever..
It's kinda insane with the RNG.. Some people are lucky, other's are cursed to never have it.Edited by Grandchamp1989 on July 15, 2021 4:14PM0 -
ixthUA✭✭✭✭✭Inferno staff is around 20k gold though.
Random is not random, desired outcome usually has a much lesser chance to happen than undesired.
This is not so bad though. A decade ago in MMOs random outcome included destroying items (when upgrading), or producing nothing when creating (loosing all materials).Edited by ixthUA on July 15, 2021 4:24PM0 -
AuraStorm43✭✭✭✭✭It's crazy what that staff is priced at. Not sure anyone is paying that price though, I certainly won't.
I try my luck once a week and like you, no desto staff.
Frustrating for sure.
I just don't understand what the purpose of making items hard to get is when THEY KNOW the price for them will be insanely high! 1.7M for a bloody ice staff? You kidding me?!? ZOS needs to rethink their strategy about RNG from boxes especially when you open 100 of them and get nothing.
Found a charged one on PS4 NA for 500k, not cheap but there’s a price tag for end game stuff
Inferno/lightning staffs are servicablr until you get one and they aren’t super expensive
Edited by AuraStorm43 on July 15, 2021 11:50PM0 -
gariondavey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Grandchamp1989 wrote: »I spend almost 60k telvar..
Got 2 bows
4 guards
4 boots
and some jewelry
That's a buttload of duplicates..
It should honestly prioritize in RNG the items you're missing from your collection to add some sort of modifier in your favor.
I have also tried to get ice staffs from Drake's Rush, Arkasis and Alkosh in forever..
It's kinda insane with the RNG.. Some people are lucky, other's are cursed to never have it.
If they prioritized stuff you didn't have, I'd just collect everything but the expensive pieces and then get those over and over again to sell lolPC NA @gariondavey, BG, IC & Cyrodiil Focused Since October 2017 Stamplar (main), Magplar, Magsorc, Stamsorc, StamDK, MagDK, Stamblade, Magblade, Magden, Stamden0 -
dcam86b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I feel bad for you, I literally got a full set and fire staff on my healer during MYM and I deconstructed them all lol0