Tired of the poor performance...

Anne13 · July 2021

I'm not usually one to complain. Even over the years since release. The huge amount of bugs that have riddled this game. But over the last few days im starting to lose my patience. I just encounter bug after bug after bug after bug!
Skills not working properly, sluggish, laggy. As if the skills are getting stuck and not casting properly. Screen freezes are endless. Even on ps5 performance mode it's still a pile of...!
And yes I have high Internet so no its not that.
Taking away my hard earned trophies. Forcing me to leave what I have achieved behind or make a new character and do them all again! Those endless hours wasted. The money wasted. Yet I still play this broken addictive af game -_-

How about stop implementing new content to fill your pockets and fix what's broken! Thanks
Rant over

SimonThesis · July 2021

Especially in cyrodiil pvp the vast majority of the bugs are frequently reported but they aren't getting fixed. Ex. Stuck in combat at the gate, 49710 day debuffs, skill delays and skills taking 5 times to go off, people breaking free 5 times in a row, slow-motion bugs, etc. The public has had to deal with these bugs for years and they arent getting fixed.

This thread has a great example of the slow motion bug: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/580949/streamer-falling-in-slow-motion-in-cyrodiil#latest

Jaraal · July 2021

They are too busy cranking out new content to keep up with the aggressive development schedule created by management to go back and fix old content. Anyone who's been around here for any significant length of time knows this.

KovalskyNestor · July 2021

This is why ESO gets a bad rep as a mmo after all these years. If they focused to fix laggynes, bugs, performance, and make combat more fluid, ESO would be much more successful game.
We have been waiting for so long since release for some improvements, but all we get is potato servers, endless loading screens, maintenances that last for hours, fixes that do nothing. Cyrodiil is still a broken mess, and my ping is always 80 while in other games is around 30. Not to mention the communication that doesn't exist at all.

GlorphNoldorin · July 2021

Oh lordy.....I agree with your sentiment but complaining of 80 ping........oooh la la.

KovalskyNestor wrote: »

This is why ESO gets a bad rep as a mmo after all these years. If they focused to fix laggynes, bugs, performance, and make combat more fluid, ESO would be much more successful game.
We have been waiting for so long since release for some improvements, but all we get is potato servers, endless loading screens, maintenances that last for hours, fixes that do nothing. Cyrodiil is still a broken mess, and my ping is always 80 while in other games is around 30. Not to mention the communication that doesn't exist at all.

Oh lordy.....I agree with your sentiment but complaining of 80 ping........oooh la la.

twev · July 2021

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

Oh lordy.....I agree with your sentiment but complaining of 80 ping........oooh la la.

KovalskyNestor wrote: »

This is why ESO gets a bad rep as a mmo after all these years. If they focused to fix laggynes, bugs, performance, and make combat more fluid, ESO would be much more successful game.
We have been waiting for so long since release for some improvements, but all we get is potato servers, endless loading screens, maintenances that last for hours, fixes that do nothing. Cyrodiil is still a broken mess, and my ping is always 80 while in other games is around 30. Not to mention the communication that doesn't exist at all.

Oh lordy.....I agree with your sentiment but complaining of 80 ping........oooh la la.

80 PR and I have to spam potion and ultimate almost every time (or at least more frequently than reasonable) that I try to use them while soloing overland (for example).

I'm running an i7 with NVMe drives and 32 gigs of 3600 ram over a GTX1800, so it's not like my game should be hardware choked trying to take a potion.

edited to add clarifications posted inside parentheses.

GodKingScormxon · July 2021

There bug problems are not the only reason they have a bad reputation to many old school gamers they once who even made it possible by playing the originals won't even touch ESO.

ClawOfTheTwoMoons · July 2021

Zos knows where their bread is buttered. Nothing will ever change unless people vote with their wallets.

Red_Feather · July 2021

The 3 biggest complaints I see online from multiple sources are; not enough variety in builds, poor performance, clunky combat.

KovalskyNestor · July 2021

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

Oh lordy.....I agree with your sentiment but complaining of 80 ping........oooh la la.

KovalskyNestor wrote: »

This is why ESO gets a bad rep as a mmo after all these years. If they focused to fix laggynes, bugs, performance, and make combat more fluid, ESO would be much more successful game.
We have been waiting for so long since release for some improvements, but all we get is potato servers, endless loading screens, maintenances that last for hours, fixes that do nothing. Cyrodiil is still a broken mess, and my ping is always 80 while in other games is around 30. Not to mention the communication that doesn't exist at all.

Oh lordy.....I agree with your sentiment but complaining of 80 ping........oooh la la.

I wouldn't complain if It worked fine

NoireJin the Witchking · July 2021

Players wanting performance/good combat/harder content aren't ZoS bread and butter. They're devoted to casual RPers who will buy cosmetics. Why do you think most their social media posts are just adverts for paid styles and houses?

If you want no lag/fluid combat I'd urge you to play another game. After Blackwood and its lack of innovation I've been playing FFXIV alot and it's a much more polished game where the Devs geniuenly care for experience, not just money.

They have mountracing/card games/good combat and animations/older classes still getting new abilities to this day/new classes/new game modes/ instruments that you can actually play/beautiful mounts not just reskins

I'm kinda tired of the average year long stories with no new weapons/skilllines/game modes. Think about it, they release a DLC at the start which you need to pay 10 quid for sub. Then another 50 for an above average zone with 0 new meaningful systems. Then another 10 to finish the story. So to get the full experience of the "year long adventure" you'd have to pay around 70 or so quid. Only to get a short story with super cliche endings and elements. I miss the days of Elswyr where innovation and love was the mane ethos of the game. To me it seems after fixing the horrid beta release and got their core audience (casual solo RP players) they've given up on being new and fresh. We've been banking on nostalgia for a while now.

olsborg · July 2021

Im currently not playing eso, dont even have it installed, because of the lagg, the bugs and the imbalances between classes atm. I still love the game(pvp), but for now its too frustrating to play so I wont play. I hope one day the game improves, but im not holding my breath. I still check forum on a weekly basis.

Anne13 · July 2021

I do everything, housing, pve, pvp, achievements, titles, quests, dailes, farming, trading
There should be no difference to whom a better playing experience should go to. I've also spent a tonne of £s since day release. Eso plus every month without fail. Crown store items throughout with real money and in game gold through crown Sellers.
Try being on console. It's much worse
It's actually pretty sad. Because I do enjoy this game and it's my first mmo

hakan · July 2021

Anne13 wrote: »

How about stop implementing new content to fill your pockets and fix what's broken! Thanks
Rant over

Well..even the new content and crown store is lacking. Like people give *** to them for this but they dont even have stuff thats worth there.

Ugly ass costumes and good ones are time limited mostly, same for mounts they feel too stiff and mostly ugly but lets say thats a personal choice. The rest isnt good either. They arent really taking advantage of the cash shop like others either. So i dont understand what they are trying to do.

The new expansion is underwhelming. The big feature of the new expansion is companions but they released only 2 of them plus they arent really interesting or useful at all lol.

they try to fix performance but they do it in a way which is extremely slow, it doesnt make sense.

ive quit long time ago, just checking to see if somethings got fixed but nahh it gets worse.

itscompton · July 2021

Yeah, tough to get them to fix problems they won't even acknowledge exist. Like the bug with my NB who's stamina recovery zeroes out the first fight I get into and then I can only get it back by relogging.
I've been trying to get a Dev to even acknowledge the bug for over a year, posting in the Bug section and in General discussion, but have gotten nothing in the way of a response.

Anne13 · July 2021

Even right this second. I travelled to my house where I dps test and use the well for ulti.
15 minutes before my core raid.
Twice so far travelling back out from house crashed with an error report. So joyful

Edited: 3rd time lucky!

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo · July 2021

Yes and on top of that we are promoting with 'world plays eso'....I don't get it.
Even imperial city was lagging this evening with 2 bars.

Jaraal · July 2021

Youyouz06 wrote: »

Yes and on top of that we are promoting with 'world plays eso'....I don't get it.
Even imperial city was lagging this evening with 2 bars.

IC is getting even worse with the "Failed to make the jump"/"You're already queued for that campaign" bug when you click on the ladders. More than 50% of the time the ladders don't work when you click on them, even when there's only 1 bar population across.

Probably another reason wny the zone is usually dead.

neferpitou73 · July 2021

ZOS content wise has one of the better games out right now. But with their unwillingness to invest in it (fixing bugs, server space, wild balance changes) l can’t recommend it to friends even tho I really enjoy playing. This most recent set of patch notes cost them my sub

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo · July 2021

Jaraal wrote: »

Youyouz06 wrote: »

Yes and on top of that we are promoting with 'world plays eso'....I don't get it.
Even imperial city was lagging this evening with 2 bars.

IC is getting even worse with the "Failed to make the jump"/"You're already queued for that campaign" bug when you click on the ladders. More than 50% of the time the ladders don't work when you click on them, even when there's only 1 bar population across.

Probably another reason wny the zone is usually dead.

I also forgot to mention I couldn't use 'LEAP' on my DK nor could my two DK group members.
Great, huh?

magnusthorek · July 2021

So, 80 ping is bad? That's cute. You should try playing with 200/250/300+ having to spam keys like crazy so they work once.

twev · July 2021

magnusthorek wrote: »

So, 80 ping is bad? That's cute. You should try playing with 200/250/300+ having to spam keys like crazy so they work once.

It's NOT that 80 ping is bad.

It's that EVEN WITH 80 ping the simple stuff, like:
Triggering a potion,
Triggering an ultimate,
Being released from combat after running half way across an empty map so you can mount,
Harvesting a node or trying to harvest the 3rd node of a survey map or looting a body: without rolling, or swapping weapon-bars,
- is just patently ridiculous for a AAA game, after all these years, and authored by what is supposed to be a top-level gaming company that is worth so much capitol for Microsoft to want to acquire.

The game seems to cater to acquiring new players and patting low level players on the head while barely giving a passing nod of recognition to vet players and long standing issues in advanced levels.

Sure, they give us new content, but thats mostly so new players who haven't bought the game yet see it as a 'going concern' and not abandonware, but the new content is rarely suited to seasoned players in relevance, complexity, or even polish. The new stuff tends to be just 'more' stuff, with the same level or bugs and boredom as the previous chapters.

Grandchamp1989 · July 2021

neferpitou73 wrote: »

ZOS content wise has one of the better games out right now. But with their unwillingness to invest in it (fixing bugs, server space, wild balance changes) l can’t recommend it to friends even tho I really enjoy playing. This most recent set of patch notes cost them my sub

Pretty much sums up how I feel.
It's really sad.

amm7sb14_ESO · July 2021

Jaraal wrote: »

Youyouz06 wrote: »

Yes and on top of that we are promoting with 'world plays eso'....I don't get it.
Even imperial city was lagging this evening with 2 bars.

IC is getting even worse with the "Failed to make the jump"/"You're already queued for that campaign" bug when you click on the ladders. More than 50% of the time the ladders don't work when you click on them, even when there's only 1 bar population across.

Probably another reason wny the zone is usually dead.

It was *awful* during MYM.

I would probably have to click the ladders 10 or more times before it finally started loading me in.

NordSwordnBoard · July 2021

Typical ESO day:
Writs on 2 characters, and probably the endeavors by them as well.
Waffle on what to bring - PvE DD/support for a Rando? Or PvP?
If PvP - Depending on the time of day, I will chose character based on the expected lag first and foremost, not on what one I want to use. What the guild and my friends are doing also plays a big part, but I won't try to bomb or use certain builds in prime time when the server is like that. Cyrodiil performance has been bad, and Battlegrounds have no choice/all random.
I'm starting to see the other side of this. Month and a half of Summer left. The current and proposed future state for PvP is bad imo. This all sounds like a great time to take a break. I rest assured I won't miss some sort of huge unannounced performance improvement before I come back lol.

Rossmann · July 2021

Now i am playing in EU gray host and literally stuff happens 2 second before i can even react. So when i try to ambush or la, it doesn't fire, if it fires i don't tp to player but damage still given.

I am playing the game from 2 second behind.

People hit me with 5-6 skills with light attacks in 1 second also very refreshing indeed

SeaGtGruff · July 2021

amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Youyouz06 wrote: »

Yes and on top of that we are promoting with 'world plays eso'....I don't get it.
Even imperial city was lagging this evening with 2 bars.

IC is getting even worse with the "Failed to make the jump"/"You're already queued for that campaign" bug when you click on the ladders. More than 50% of the time the ladders don't work when you click on them, even when there's only 1 bar population across.

Probably another reason wny the zone is usually dead.

It was *awful* during MYM.

I would probably have to click the ladders 10 or more times before it finally started loading me in.

In my experience, it's a timing thing.

What I mean is, if I go to IC-- such as queuing back and forth between Cyrodiil and IC, which is how I work on dailies during MYM, alternating between the two zones-- and, upon arriving at the base in the sewers, do something that takes a minute, such as refine raw materials and deconstruct gear I got in Cyrodiil, or visit the merchant and banker, I can then take a ladder up to a district and get in the very first time.

But if I go to IC, or get killed and have to resurrect back at base or in a "friendly" district, and immediately try to take a ladder up or down, I'm going to get the "already queued" message. I can sit there and try over and over again but will get the same result, until enough time has elapsed.

If I wait a bit before I try, I might not get the message at all. Or if I try and do get the message, I usually will not get it a second time if I wait a bit before trying again.

Grebcol · July 2021

It is indeed very sad. In my eyes they should create a second Team which takes care of Bugfixing, Performance, revisiting old Locations and in gods sake redone the bad animations & clunky combat. Eso gets everywhere critics about those issues, even from their die hard fans.

Tan9oSuccka · July 2021

magnusthorek wrote: »

So, 80 ping is bad? That's cute. You should try playing with 200/250/300+ having to spam keys like crazy so they work once.

I bet that’s a treat for those you are fighting in Cyrodiil. 🤣

Reverb · July 2021

After last year being a hot mess for Zeni, there was that interview with Firor where he acknowledged their rapid development cycle was to blame, and that they would do fewer new things in 2021 so they could focus on quality.

We’re a little over halfway through the year, let’s recap. Have they focused less on new stuff and more on quality?

Nope, we’ve gotten Companions, Endeavors, an overhaul of Twitch drops, extended live testing in Cyro following by a patch with big balance changes, and another patch with big balance changes on PTS soon to go live, same DLC and Expac churn, same Crown Store focus.

They are keeping the exact same pace as previous years, and still not circling back to address long standing issues. Anyone who expects differently is naïve.

jerj6925 · July 2021

I think a big part of the lag is from the programable controlers and Keyboards, there are more and more people running cheats that hurts the performance for others and its not just in PVP. I was doing a daily fighters guild you know the one go do 3 anchors in random zone. A templar runs in and all his attacks are going off at an insane rate comparied to me or the others there, and on top of that just instantly killing everything. I asked him how his attacks go off so fast and he plays dumb telling me he uses ring of the hunt... I said I didnt comment on your speed of movement I was asking about fast you are getting attacks off, he said it was a super high DPS rapid resource build from a web site.. its total BS. this guys light attacks went off like a gatling gun and was so obvious what he was doing.