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Bar swap Freezing/Lag Spike Bug After Blackwood Release? Who else?

  • Casdha
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    The biggest thing I've noticed is lag in mobs dying. The companions know they are dead because they will sheath their weapons and stop fighting but the mob will stand there 3 or 4 seconds with 5 to 10% on their health bar before they eventually fall over dead with an empty health bar.
    Proud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%

  • darkwraight
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    Clearly someone did not understand this is not and issues related to connectivity issues is a coding issues that come out between bar swap.

    Anyway issues come out, i crafted 2 pairs of daggers and 2 bows in white lvl,no trait,no set bonus, i unequip everything
    then i test with those i craft,

    daggers+bow still issues
    daggers+daggers no issues
    bow+bow no issues

    theres some issues occur like i said that happen. @Urusovite try to see when you get the issues to test the same and tell me. i hope zos reading this because at the moment every stamina or even my magplar are unplayable duo to this.
  • Urusovite
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    Clearly someone did not understand this is not and issues related to connectivity issues is a coding issues that come out between bar swap.

    Anyway issues come out, i crafted 2 pairs of daggers and 2 bows in white lvl,no trait,no set bonus, i unequip everything
    then i test with those i craft,

    daggers+bow still issues
    daggers+daggers no issues
    bow+bow no issues

    theres some issues occur like i said that happen. @Urusovite try to see when you get the issues to test the same and tell me. i hope zos reading this because at the moment every stamina or even my magplar are unplayable duo to this.

    Doesn't appear to be the same for me as having same weapons on both bars still has the freezes. Also disappointed the patch today did nothing to fix it.
    PS4 NA
    Medium Stam Dk since launch
    Technologically incompetent I'm told

    Solo play is the only way
  • PoisonedSweetroll
    So this is really a thing and not just me being too dumb to press the right key or do it at the right time?
    Yeah i have noticed that lately as well as a lot of lag in areas where a lot of players gather, it began after i updated Windows so that could have something to do but idk.
  • ZNem
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    Reading all this posts, makes me realize that have to do with the new updates...

    I was used to play with my ussual 200 ping (yes, at least 80% of south america players suffer with it since Beta :/ )...

    But lately ain´t just a ping problem, as u all said, seems to have to do with the game response itself.

    I don´t even do Trials anymore, it just makes u get mad...
  • MashmalloMan
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    Just experienced this issue. I have a frame rate cap of 144 fps. When I bar swapped my screen would freeze for like 0.2--0.3s and I noticed my FPS counter would go from 144 to 100 or so EVERY time.

    Reloading UI worked for me.. I'll see if this issue continues like another comment above said after 5-10 minutes. I'm also doing BGs where I noticed it start.
    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
  • Tsar_Gekkou
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    Happens to me too. I have to reloadui to fix it, but it comes back every other day.
    Xbox NA healer main
    vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+3 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA HM | vRG HM |
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  • wheresbes
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    not freezes but during MYM I couldn't bar swap half of the time and experienced crashes every so often. Now, at least once during each gameplay session, I get disconnected (but I'm sure my internet connection is fine).
  • Inaya
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    PC/NA and bar swapping was an issue for me long before Blackwood. And it's not my PC
  • ApostateHobo
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    I've noticed happening a lot recently as well. Makes combat super janky when half the time you try to do something and the game goes "lol no".
  • TheUndeadAmulet
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    I've been suffering from this issue for a while too - stuttering/frame freezing when I barswap. What I have discovered after a bit of experimenting is that using specific abilities causes this stuttering, and continuously using these abilities increases the strength of the stutter until it reaches 0.5 seconds of freeze frame.

    The abilities that cause the stuttering, at least the ones I have noticed, are critical charge, accelerate, and crystal fragments. Weirdly, it seems that crystal frags causing stutter isn't triggered by casting the ability, but by casting the ability AND the mob you are targeting dies before you finish casting. Stampede and Accelerate however cause stutter by simply being cast.

    I've also found that the stutter can be "reset" most easily by removing the offending skill from you skill bar. However, if you continue to use the offending skill the stutter will again appear, rather reliably in fact.

    I'm currently uninstalling and reinstalling ESO to see if that prevents the stutter from appearing entirely. Will update this reply if the stutter is no longer being triggered or if it is being triggered still.

    UPDATE: Uninstall and reinstalling ESO seems to removed the stuttering.
    Edited by TheUndeadAmulet on July 12, 2021 2:05AM
    XBOX NA 1000+ CP
    PC NA 400+ CP
    nerf ping please
  • AgentSylo
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    I have the same issue on eups, doesn't matter my location, overland/dungeon or trial, I get a random stutter/freeze for half a second when moving quite fast.

    Also when this is happening, when I bar swap from bow to daggers and vice versa the stutter/spike happens every time, and the only fix (temporary for 15 mins or so) as mentioned above is typing reloadui, I also only had this happened since the blackwood update.

    Quite annoying, but I'm glad I'm not the only one with this issue, my pc version doesn't seem to have it, just the PS4.



  • Ken_Koerperich
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    PS5 quite frequent "stutter/laggy" bar swaps, and end up dead....

    Built "One" bar dual wield....Vigor on back as that's the only place....and wouldn't you know it, when I really really need it, lag and die....

    Built "One" bar dual bow....same issue's.....

    Then there are days where it all works fine and dandy no problems....

    Just don't get it...
  • ibkickin
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    This and a few other bugs/issues. No clue what causes it as they tend to show up randomly the longer I'm on a character.
    Strength on it's own is directionless, Thirst for battle is helpless, Only when the two join is a mighty warrior born.
  • celner4_ESO
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    On ps4 pro.. I’ve been doing vMA and constantly get the barswap lag spike issue as well as a lot of other random lag spikes or bugs on certain levels where aoe/spell animations will not appear, or all casts from enemies and myself are delayed a couple to a few seconds before catching up. My ps4 is brand new only 2 months I’ve had it so far (couldn’t get ps5…) and replaced it with an SSD. My modem and router are fine newest models supplied by spark light I get between 300-500mbps download and 100 upload and never have any lag spike/stutter issues on my other mmos I play on the same network both on this console and on my pc. Noticed this was far worse after Blackwood dropped or enough so for me to notice it at this point. I’ve missed flawless in vMA do to 1 death around 6 times now trying to deal with these issues and trying to still make time to get leaderboard with the constant need to have to /reloadui to fix the barswap stutter every new floor….. infuriating to say the least. Has ZoS made any mention of known issues they’re working on currently including these ones? I wonder with all the money that’s being made from eso micro transactions quarterly, how on Gods green earth they can’t afford better/more developers in the games coding and infrastructure. On all platforms.
    Hide ya kids, hide ya wife, n' hide ya husband too cuz he be gankin' erybody up en heeyuh..
  • Aektann
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    Bar swapping freezes still here. Game on ps4. @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any information about you aware of this issue?
  • MashmalloMan
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    Still happening to me.. Seems to be ramping up more frequently where I could play for an hour and it would start to happen, now it's sometimes as quick as 10 minutes after rebooting.
    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
  • MashmalloMan
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    Here is a video of it happening, you will see my fps counter drops from 208 to 175 when weapon swapping, 175 should be buttery smooth, but it feels like a slideshow each time I swap. It feels much worse than it appears, the video doesn't do it enough justice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ATwVC2rCcg&ab_channel=MarshallTeixeira
    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
  • Davedipy04
    It happens on Xbox and PC. I've experienced this on both and it only seems to happen after u play for a while.
    Xbox NA: 1600cp
    PC NA: 1150cp
    PvP Healer
  • Pauls
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    Unsheathing weapons is buggy
  • MashmalloMan
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    Pauls wrote: »
    Unsheathing weapons is buggy

    Seperate issue. Talking about weapon swapping, not unsheathing.
    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
  • MEBengalsFan2001
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    Urusovite wrote: »
    Returned to the game after a good 2 year break a few weeks ago. Ran better than I remember on my weak PS4. As soon as Blackwood dropped, I get a freeze every time I bar swap. I submitted a ticket of course but when has that ever yielded results?

    Details:
    THIS DOES NOT AFFECT EVERYONE! I only know about 5 other players out of maybe 20 I talked to with this problem. Everyone was on a PS4 or a PS4 Pro.

    I thought maybe it was because I had activated the ability timers, but it happens even without. I tried turning all combat text, timers, and AOE colors off. Also had all and some of them on. The game freeze upon bar swapping remains. This happens whether you have abilities active or not, but it worse if you have abilities going.

    If I sit on one bar, the game runs fine and is lag free. This is a problem though because pretty much nothing is playable. I can't do the new trial. I'm trying to picture myself in other trials like vCR wiping group because of the bar swap mechanic. Uhh can't do vMA, vVH, etc etc. I can't even get an updated parse for the trial guild I am in because I freeze with every single bar swap.

    Can anyone let me know if they're also having this problem so we can get ZOS to fix it with the next patch?

    Happens even on a PS5. It also depends upon the time of day; usually around 7pm est I start to see lag that impacts a variety of things like bar swapping.

  • moo_2021
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    When I bar swapped my screen would freeze for like 0.2--0.3s and I noticed my FPS counter would go from 144 to 100 or so EVERY time.

    I noticed freeze too. On PC, it's new and only started very recently, maybe since last week. Random freeze of screen update & all actions, not the usual ability not firing or bar-swap malfunction. It affects both PvE and PvP.
    Edited by moo_2021 on September 28, 2021 10:27PM
  • cptscotty
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    I am on PC with a controller and I notice it. Its a controller issue it seems...not just console. I tested with a mouse and keyboard and didn't have much lag until i was using the controller UI. Reloading of the UI really doesnt seem to help. My guess is its something to do with the controller interface of the game or the "accessibility" settings or the way it reads controller input.

    There are some other issues I noticed with controller play on PC vs PS4 console in this game that could use some work but thats for another thread.
  • cptscotty
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    Stevie6 wrote: »
    Don’t mean to highjack the thread but on a somewhat related note, I’ve notice that my heavy attack doesn’t work about a third of the time and have to switch bars to initiate it. Been that way for a while…

    Yeah I notice that as well with controller. Something to do with the aiming. Its extremely noticeable when you try to target a friendly to even just whisper them...seriously...good luck if they are running around.
  • twing1_
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    This issue is still very prevalent, 10/18/2022. Have been dealing with this for years now.

    PS4 NA

    Description:
    After 30 minutes - 1 hr of gameplay, the bar swap button begins to lag. As described in the numerous comments above, the lag spike that occurs can be described as a "stutter" lasting up to half a second. Whole screen freezes for about half a second. If you are moving while hitting bar swap, the character will jump forward to the location as if there was no lag at all. This leads me to believe it is client side, and not server side. Very annoying bug as in the middle of combat, bar swapping will freeze the screen for about half a second, while everything server side remains unfrozen.

    Solution:
    Exiting the app and restarting it. Simply logging out of a character and then logging back in is not enough. Restarting the app "resets" bar swap back to its default state, where it does not lag. Playing the game, however, contributes to the bar swap stutter, and it becomes noticeable after about 10 minutes of game play. After another half hour or 1 hr of gameplay, the bar swap stutter gets worse to the point of freezing for a half second or so.


    Has this issue been addressed, or even acknowledged? Is the dev team aware of this issue that, evidently, a huge portion of the controller-playing population experiences?

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
  • BahometZ
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    Would be good to have some acknowledgement from zos that they realise this is still a problem a year and a half later.
    Pact Magplar - Max CP (NA XB)
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