Solo random dungeon

Lady_Galadhiel · July 2021

Would people like to see a solo random normal option what would give the same reward (10 transmutes) for people who just want to speed run a dungeon by their own?

josiahva · July 2021

Yes

Not that DPS speedrunners would ever choose that option. They have no interest in actually soloing dungeons...they just want to use other group members as meat shields.

oterWitz · July 2021

Not sure

If it meant they would get rid of push-pads, levers, and other mechanics that make some dungeons unsoloable, then yes. It would be a great boon to the solo PvE community as well as offer a potential solution to role fakers and dungeon rushers.

If they simply excluded the dungeons that can't be soloed (or pulled a ZoS and left them in), then I would look elsewhere for a solution to the current problems with dungeon finder such as level and cp-based groups, opting out of (or a greater reward for) DLC dungeons, and more substantial action on the issue of role faking.

lolo_01b16_ESO · July 2021

No

I don't see any benefit from doing this. If you want fast transmutes it will almost always still be better to just queue as tank in the regular queue.

Also I don't like the general idea that the by far fastest way to get transmute crystals is rushing through normal dungeons. In my opinion a much better solution would be to have the transmute rewards adjusted so you can choose between different activities that all reward about equal amounts of transmutes in a given time. So maybe have your first battleground victory reward as much as a normal dungeon, have your first random vet reward twice as much. Additionally maybe also add some transmutes for the first world boss, raid completion and guild quest each day.

tim99 · July 2021

Yes

in addition: as you solo a dungeon which was meant for 4 people, you should get all 4 weapons at the end

lol queue would be so empty.

actually 2 instead of 4 would be also a good idea, and most likely all possible for everyone, talking about normal mode.

Lady_Galadhiel · July 2021

Yes

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

I don't see any benefit from doing this. If you want fast transmutes it will almost always still be better to just queue as tank in the regular queue.

I understand your point but there are so many people out there who are disliked about having a fake tank or healer in a dungeon,even when it is a normal one.
And a lot of people just don't have any tank/healer they could queue with so they use the fast way around and do queue up as fake role.

Yes I agree,it would be much better if transmutes could be obtained in other ways too and not only in dungeons or PvP,but for now that is how it is.

SirAndy · July 2021

I like to solo group dungeons. I don't speedrun, neither solo nor in a group.

I think you are missing the target with your poll ...

AlnilamE · July 2021

No

It always amuses me to see people wanting a reward that's meant for helping other people complete dungeons, while NOT helping other people.

They could just add 2-3 transmutes to the last boss in a dungeon and then all the soloers could run FG1 all day long.

Chrysa1is · July 2021

Yes

So i don't spend ages waiting in a queue and so I don't have to queue as a fake tank or healer just to get in quick.

Grandchamp1989 · July 2021

Yes

Making the dungeons solo friendly would be a huge gift to solo players.

No longer being locked behind mechs would be amazing.

Ingenon · July 2021

No

AlnilamE wrote: »

It always amuses me to see people wanting a reward that's meant for helping other people complete dungeons, while NOT helping other people.

^ This

Whenever I see people speed running in a group dungeon, I let them go and follow at as fast as I can without running. And I wonder why they don't join guilds. In the guilds I belong to, folks will post in guild chat and get a group together before they go to speed run or farm a dungeon.

Lady_Galadhiel · July 2021

Yes

AlnilamE wrote: »

It always amuses me to see people wanting a reward that's meant for helping other people complete dungeons, while NOT helping other people.

It would help more people if the dd's who queue up as fake tanks/healers would queue up alone and don't run up front everyone else and kill the last boss before the rest of the group gets there.

AlnilamE wrote: »

They could just add 2-3 transmutes to the last boss in a dungeon and then all the soloers could run FG1 all day long.

That would not be ideal because it would make tanks and healers even more rare to que up for normal randoms,because with such a system everyone would just run nFG1 with friends or alone no matter what role.

Rasande_Robin · July 2021

I want them to rework it... Easiest and fastest way should not be the most rewarding. It incentives brain-dead grinding with barely any effort. Grinding is fun when it's challenging. Random normal should give 2-3 crystals, because of the time/effort it requires. While random veteran should give 10.

Lady_Galadhiel · July 2021

Yes

Ingenon wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

It always amuses me to see people wanting a reward that's meant for helping other people complete dungeons, while NOT helping other people.

^ This

Whenever I see people speed running in a group dungeon, I let them go and follow at as fast as I can without running. And I wonder why they don't join guilds. In the guilds I belong to, folks will post in guild chat and get a group together before they go to speed run or farm a dungeon.

I main a healer and I would rather queue up for a group than solo,because solo random normal would also include DLC dungeons.
Why a person who can solo a dlc dungeon when getting it as a random normal should not get 10 transmute crystals?

To me it did happen a few times that a fake tank did run with the speed of light passing all mobs,to the final boss while the 2 real dd's and me where still fighting a mini boss in the middle of a dungeon and I must say I dislike that.
Rather let them queue up alone and get the same reward if they can solo dungeons what people like me need a group for.

SilverBride · July 2021

Yes

Yes, but not for transmutes. I just want to complete all the dungeons without the toxicity of a group.

Amottica · July 2021

I think Zenimax should add solo versions of the dungeons but it should not, and likely would not offer any of the rewards for a random dungeon as it does nothing to serve the purpose of offering those rewards.

SilverBride wrote: »

Yes, but not for transmutes. I just want to complete all the dungeons without the toxicity of a group.

I would suggest running with guildies to avoid the toxicity. I have only joined one guild since starting this game several months ago and found that running with guildmates not only avoids dealing with the rare problem player but the dungeons are significantly smoother because the players seem to be better.

SilverBride · July 2021

Yes

Amottica wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Yes, but not for transmutes. I just want to complete all the dungeons without the toxicity of a group.

I would suggest running with guildies to avoid the toxicity. I have only joined one guild since starting this game several months ago and found that running with guildmates not only avoids dealing with the rare problem player but the dungeons are significantly smoother because the players seem to be better.

There is no guarantee that guildies won't be toxic or have high expectations. And it would also limit me to only being able to run whenever I was able to get enough of them together. It would just be a lot more convenient and less stressful to have solo dungeons.

Blinx · July 2021

No

Voted no, a solo person should not get the same amount as if they were in group, yet 3 sounds fair to me

svendf · July 2021

Yes

Al solutions that can keep all these negattive things out of dungeons - II support even solo dungeon, but it´s not wholehearted.

Getting transmutes by other means than PvP, and dungeeons could also be a good thing looking into as lifted in another post.

Right now things are just escalating in the wrong direction and sad indeed.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · July 2021

No

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

Would people like to see a solo random normal option what would give the same reward (10 transmutes) for people who just want to speed run a dungeon by their own?

No. The purpose of the rewards for a random normal is to encourage people to play together. This is an MMO. And to be honest, if you arent playing end game PVE which is by definition group content other than solo arenas or PVP, your traits don't matter anyway.

I get that there is a problem of speed runners. The far better solution would be to incentivize speed runners to join a vet queue by increasing vet rewards.

Vote kick is also an option. Sometimes, the problem is lack of people on your side of the argument.

Honestly, Transmutes just arent that hard to get. I am sitting on 900+ in my bank and another 3000 in PVP coffers, and another 2,000 in Monster shoulders waiting to be deconstructed. I have 18 toons and I adapt multiple builds each meta, so I definitively spend them. Random Normals are a good source of Transmutes, but plenty of other options to get them that can be done solo.

Iceman_mat · July 2021

No

All you "solutions" keep ignoring the simplest.

Make a tank.

I say that as a tank who is working towards solo content, who has made every tank.

Forcing other players to do what you want won't work. Do it yourself.

Even if you had a tank for every run, you would still keep doing the crap that made them go solo or guild or friends in the first place.

Again.

Make a tank

-cheers

SilverBride · July 2021

Yes

Iceman_mat wrote: »

All you "solutions" keep ignoring the simplest.
Make a tank.

I can see one major problem with this... playing a tank isn't fun for a lot of players. This is why there is a shortage of them.

AlnilamE · July 2021

No

SilverBride wrote: »

Yes, but not for transmutes. I just want to complete all the dungeons without the toxicity of a group.

Just enter the dungeon and run it. That's what I did yesterday when one of the endeavours was a dungeon. Mentioned it in guild chat as I went and got a guildie to come with me and get their endeavour done as well.

Lady_Galadhiel · July 2021

Yes

Iceman_mat wrote: »

All you "solutions" keep ignoring the simplest.

Make a tank.

I say that as a tank who is working towards solo content, who has made every tank.

Forcing other players to do what you want won't work. Do it yourself.

Even if you had a tank for every run, you would still keep doing the crap that made them go solo or guild or friends in the first place.

Again.

Make a tank

-cheers

I mentioned before but I will mention it again,I play as healer and my queue times are similar to tanks,basically instant.
That does not take away that speed runners who leave the group behind and finish the dungeon before some players even get to the last boss.
I personally don't like to vote kick anyone because of the 15 mins timer they get,I never did kick anyone in over 2 years of playing.
Rather give them an option to solo queue so they can speed run (or not) on their own.

SilverBride wrote: »

Iceman_mat wrote: »

All you "solutions" keep ignoring the simplest.
Make a tank.

I can see one major problem with this... playing a tank isn't fun for a lot of players. This is why there is a shortage of them.

And also this,plus tanks get the most blame for everything in group content.
I have friends who have tank characters but never take them to dungeons because they fear of getting kicked.

SilverBride · July 2021

Yes

AlnilamE wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Yes, but not for transmutes. I just want to complete all the dungeons without the toxicity of a group.

Just enter the dungeon and run it. That's what I did yesterday when one of the endeavours was a dungeon. Mentioned it in guild chat as I went and got a guildie to come with me and get their endeavour done as well.

I have soloed a few dungeons, but am unable to solo them all.

Giraffon · July 2021

Yes

How about they put four solo players in a group and you get what you get. Maybe no tank, maybe no heals. So sad, too bad. I'd be good with it. Everyone is responsible for themselves but you run it as a group.

Ackwalan · July 2021

They could add stones to the reward for the solo undaunted daily. It is a sharable quest, so maybe have a 20 hour timer for that portion of the reward.

svendf · July 2021

Yes

Iceman_mat wrote: »

All you "solutions" keep ignoring the simplest.

Make a tank.

I say that as a tank who is working towards solo content, who has made every tank.

Forcing other players to do what you want won't work. Do it yourself.

Even if you had a tank for every run, you would still keep doing the crap that made them go solo or guild or friends in the first place.

Again.

Make a tank

-cheers

Are you using gf by any chance ? Or guild ?

I got three tanks. ESO have many tanks and tanking is fun fore alot of people. The fun stops by bad behaviors and griefings.

So! "make a tank" remark could also come from a dd, who want dungeons as a privat playground

Iselin · July 2021

Yes

Yeah but just hope you don't get FG2 or any of the others that can't be soloed

spartaxoxo · July 2021

Yes

I don't actually agree this is how it should be implemented, but if it means less dealing with fake tanks and more ability to listen to stories than why not.

six2fall · July 2021

Yes

God yes, there are times as a dps I've had to wait for queue longer than it wouldve taken me to walk thru the dungeon killing everything

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