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Why every patch you have to introduce some broken new stuff?
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Ganking is over the roof especially bombing,
90% of my fights in Cyro are ending by some bomber, doing 16k tether dmg from sneak.
It also doesn't make any sense that a bomber can one shot solo player with 0 counter.
Edited by ZOS_Icy on June 26, 2021 2:20PM 90% of my fights in Cyro are ending by some bomber, doing 16k tether dmg from sneak.
It also doesn't make any sense that a bomber can one shot solo player with 0 counter.
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✭Ganking is over the roof especially bombing,
90% of my fights in Cyro are ending by some bomber, doing 16k tether dmg from sneak.
It also doesn't make any sense that a bomber can one shot solo player with 0 counter.
Why 'every patch'?
Its not as if bombing changed this patch. One shoting people on a bomb build has been possible for years3 -
amir412✭✭✭✭✭
✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Try not standing in crowds?
I'm fine with being able to bomb stacked groups, but at the moment any bomber can one shot solos, it makes no sense.Ganking is over the roof especially bombing,
90% of my fights in Cyro are ending by some bomber, doing 16k tether dmg from sneak.
It also doesn't make any sense that a bomber can one shot solo player with 0 counter.
Why 'every patch'?
Its not as if bombing changed this patch. One shoting people on a bomb build has been possible for years
They added 275% more melee dmg from sneak this patchEdited by amir412 on June 26, 2021 1:54PMPC | EU | AD | "@Saidden"| 1700 CP|4 -
Nemeliom✭✭✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Try not standing in crowds?
I'm fine with being able to bomb stacked groups, but at the moment any bomber can one shot solos, it makes no sense.Ganking is over the roof especially bombing,
90% of my fights in Cyro are ending by some bomber, doing 16k tether dmg from sneak.
It also doesn't make any sense that a bomber can one shot solo player with 0 counter.
Why 'every patch'?
Its not as if bombing changed this patch. One shoting people on a bomb build has been possible for years
They added 275% more melee dmg from sneak this patch
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amir412✭✭✭✭✭
✭Fixed an issue where the guaranteed Critical Strike and bonus damage from attacks made while hidden in crouch would fail on many attacks. It will now properly grant a guaranteed Critical Strike on your next Direct Damage attack, deal 46% bonus damage if a Ranged attack (now Magical and Martial, rather than only Martial), 275% bonus damage if a Melee attack (Magical and Martial, rather than only Martial), and Stun the target on Martial or Magical melee attacks.
Where is it stated it's only for NPC?
Either way, even if I missed it, solo players taking 14k~16k proxy det is dumb.PC | EU | AD | "@Saidden"| 1700 CP|1 -
Sluggy✭✭✭✭✭Fixed an issue where the guaranteed Critical Strike and bonus damage from attacks made while hidden in crouch would fail on many attacks. It will now properly grant a guaranteed Critical Strike on your next Direct Damage attack, deal 46% bonus damage if a Ranged attack (now Magical and Martial, rather than only Martial), 275% bonus damage if a Melee attack (Magical and Martial, rather than only Martial), and Stun the target on Martial or Magical melee attacks.
Where is it stated it's only for NPC?
Either way, even if I missed it, solo players taking 14k~16k proxy det is dumb.
Bombers have always been able to get their effect with as little as two or three people. And yes, damage did go up a bit in recent patches so being able to bomb a solo person does seem feasible if not particularly effective. Bombers are the definition of a glass cannon and sink everything into damage output. Sometimes they will catch you. It just happens. You can't win em all. But it really is phenomenally easy to knock a nightblade out of stealth and mess up their whole plan. And that's assuming lag doesn't knock them out of stealth for you.
Also, that bonus has *always* been a mechanic in the game. They just fixed it this last patch. It specifically only applies to NPCS. If you don't believe that then you can always test it for yourself with a friend. But I assure you it does not apply to players.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Try not standing in crowds?
I'm fine with being able to bomb stacked groups, but at the moment any bomber can one shot solos, it makes no sense.
If you're getting one shot solo by a bomber, you need to have a better build.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Try not standing in crowds?
Second time today I just walked through a gate and got instantly deleted by a bomber. You can't really tell people to not be in the wrong place at the wrong time.4 -
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✭Joy_Division wrote: »OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Try not standing in crowds?
I'm fine with being able to bomb stacked groups, but at the moment any bomber can one shot solos, it makes no sense.
If you're getting one shot solo by a bomber, you need to have a better build.
30k+ resists and 30k+ hp (+ some dmg reduction modifiers) are not enough I guess, I'll just change my char into a brick so I can play properly.Edited by amir412 on June 28, 2021 10:20AMPC | EU | AD | "@Saidden"| 1700 CP|2 -
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✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Try not standing in crowds?
I'm fine with being able to bomb stacked groups, but at the moment any bomber can one shot solos, it makes no sense.
If you're getting one shot solo by a bomber, you need to have a better build.
I don't know the situation on NA, but EU is plagued by bombers rn and EU isn't known for building particularly squishy.
Eating 12k deto and 16k tethers while running solo on anything not using major evasion isn't rare and it's the reason of death number one, I and other people encountered since Blackwood dropped.
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✭✭Fixed an issue where the guaranteed Critical Strike and bonus damage from attacks made while hidden in crouch would fail on many attacks. It will now properly grant a guaranteed Critical Strike on your next Direct Damage attack, deal 46% bonus damage if a Ranged attack (now Magical and Martial, rather than only Martial), 275% bonus damage if a Melee attack (Magical and Martial, rather than only Martial), and Stun the target on Martial or Magical melee attacks.
Where is it stated it's only for NPC?
Either way, even if I missed it, solo players taking 14k~16k proxy det is dumb.
I asked about this during pts, go back to morrowind patch notes, it explains crit bonus of 275 is pve onlyPC NA @gariondavey, BG, IC & Cyrodiil Focused Since October 2017 Stamplar (main), Magplar, Magsorc, Stamsorc, StamDK, MagDK, Stamblade, Magblade, Magden, Stamden0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Try not standing in crowds?
I'm fine with being able to bomb stacked groups, but at the moment any bomber can one shot solos, it makes no sense.
If you're getting one shot solo by a bomber, you need to have a better build.
I don't know the situation on NA, but EU is plagued by bombers rn and EU isn't known for building particularly squishy.
Eating 12k deto and 16k tethers while running solo on anything not using major evasion isn't rare and it's the reason of death number one, I and other people encountered since Blackwood dropped.
How are they getting Proxy Det to hit that hard against a single player? It should be half the initial tick on Tether, or about equal to casting Sap or Pulsar against a single target.
Not doubting it, I’ve seen some crazy bombs recently as well. Just wondering how it’s possible. Maybe some trick to make it hit as though there were multiple targets?1 -
ThePianist✭✭✭WrathOfInnos wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Try not standing in crowds?
I'm fine with being able to bomb stacked groups, but at the moment any bomber can one shot solos, it makes no sense.
If you're getting one shot solo by a bomber, you need to have a better build.
I don't know the situation on NA, but EU is plagued by bombers rn and EU isn't known for building particularly squishy.
Eating 12k deto and 16k tethers while running solo on anything not using major evasion isn't rare and it's the reason of death number one, I and other people encountered since Blackwood dropped.
How are they getting Proxy Det to hit that hard against a single player? It should be half the initial tick on Tether, or about equal to casting Sap or Pulsar against a single target.
Not doubting it, I’ve seen some crazy bombs recently as well. Just wondering how it’s possible. Maybe some trick to make it hit as though there were multiple targets?
You slot Backstabber passive, and bomb them from behind. I don’t pay attention to my proxy damage. But I have hit 20k soul tethers this patch, on 40k hp tanks and healbots.
Most bombers don’t slot Simmering Frenzy from vamp skill line. If rapid regen or healing ward does it’s job, I can push the spell damage up to 9k before the bomb goes off. Sometimes the big guns need to be out for the extra ooomphh.0
