pvp sucks course its unbalanced and no fun unless your OP VETERAN

88mister88b16_ESO · April 2014

OK This my try to get ZOS theyr attention review pvp.ive seen nick konkel in several interviews saying pvp is well balanced as an lowbie noob its possible to get an 50 down when you got 2 others with you.well this is just a lie.in pvp i whas full health lvl23 templar i got charged by an sword and shield player with shield charge and went from 100% to 0% in 1 go.a 50 vampire took out 10 to 15 ppl out if not more by spamming batswarm and just running thru my group.he toke no dmg all he did whas spam batswarm.its a joke and really need nerfing.the boost you get is laughable really,good to have resources bolstered but armour and weapons are still not scalled to adjust to it lvl50 players.i thought ZOS theyr intention whas to make the game skill based yet it isnt,its simply be lvl50 first then have a go on pvp,you might aswell remove the lvl10 que for pvp at this moment and up it to 50 either that or take note from SWTORS bolsterbuff system.granted it toke them quite a while to get it right but i hope that ZOS is working on such a system as atm the inbalance of the pvp is no fun for players at all

Sarenia · April 2014

In a small skirmith or 1v1, a veteran is always going to have the advantage.

In group/large scale PvP, I felt very much like I was contributing, even as a lowly level 10. I even got some kills, and I have almost no experience with PvP in any game. I've never been interested in PvP, but find ESO's war system to be pretty satisfying.

So will you be the star of the battlefield without leveling? Probably not. But you can have a lot of fun as a footsoldier amongst the ranks.

crimsonBZD · April 2014

Sarenia wrote: »

Your sig says you have a character that is a staff polisher?

rawne1980b16_ESO · April 2014

88mister88b16_ESO wrote: »

the inbalance of the pvp is no fun for players at all

Don't speak for all of us.

I'm enjoying it.

Currently levelling an alt purely in PvP (the XP there really needs a boost ... it's terrible).... and i'm having no problems as long as I don't try and face tank whole groups.

Only complaining I see in zone chat in Cyrodiil is about sorc teleport and mist form needing a cooldown put on.

I have to agree, sick of getting into a fight with a sorc/vamp and then them running off.

wrlifeboil · April 2014

Pvp is always unbalanced. Level up. With only four classes, you are sure to be the fotm at least 25% of the time after a re-spec when ZOS eventually gets around to swinging their nerf bat.

Faolanhart · April 2014

I have not played PVP much.
At level 15 I decided to give PVP a try, found a good group that was organised & had a blast. Took over four forts in a row before all the Daggers held ground to defend their elder scroll. I learned allot from just playing with them.
Around 35 I went in again & found another big & organised group, again I had a blast & we managed to capture an elder scroll & take over a fort before spending the rest of the time defending.
I'm vet 1 right now & I honestly have not noticed any difference in how powerful I am vs other players. About the only thing that has changed is I have more abilities as my disposal now.
Pretty much the only thing that kills me & has ever really killed me is being outnumbered & being ambushed. This is not me bragging as I'm not great at competitive games, never have been.

Sarenia · April 2014

crimsonBZD wrote: »

Sarenia wrote: »

Your sig says you have a character that is a staff polisher?

@CrimsonBZD

Woodworker. :P

jircris11 · April 2014

lol @ Sarenia's sig ok that aside i find pvp to be quite fun though im not much FOR pvp. i went there to try it out and ended up getting a V2 player from the back and well...their HP kinda went poof thanks to NB passives with crit and bow

DanMan3395 · April 2014

88mister88b16_ESO wrote: »

OK This my try to get ZOS theyr attention review pvp.ive seen nick konkel in several interviews saying pvp is well balanced as an lowbie noob its possible to get an 50 down when you got 2 others with you.well this is just a lie.in pvp i whas full health lvl23 templar i got charged by an sword and shield player with shield charge and went from 100% to 0% in 1 go.a 50 vampire took out 10 to 15 ppl out if not more by spamming batswarm and just running thru my group.he toke no dmg all he did whas spam batswarm.its a joke and really need nerfing.the boost you get is laughable really,good to have resources bolstered but armour and weapons are still not scalled to adjust to it lvl50 players.i thought ZOS theyr intention whas to make the game skill based yet it isnt,its simply be lvl50 first then have a go on pvp,you might aswell remove the lvl10 que for pvp at this moment and up it to 50 either that or take note from SWTORS bolsterbuff system.granted it toke them quite a while to get it right but i hope that ZOS is working on such a system as atm the inbalance of the pvp is no fun for players at all

If they literally make no balance changes for pvp ever, I will be happy and continue to pay.

RaZaddha · April 2014

Sarenia wrote: »

crimsonBZD wrote: »

Sarenia wrote: »

Your sig says you have a character that is a staff polisher?

@CrimsonBZD
Woodworker. :P

Read the lusty argonian maid. *wink wink*

And to the OP, please do some work on your grammar. The pvp is of course unbalanced right now, theres already many threads on the Alliance War Tactics that speak about those issues.

rager82b14_ESO · April 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxBlMayv12M

This is why pvp sucks.

Also animation clipping makes it hard to combat player skills when you don't get to see what they do.

MercutioElessar · April 2014

PvP doesn't suck, the vampires do. They're too powerful and need to be nerfed urgently.

And what sucks, too are the ppl meaning to have the right to zerg every enemy down they see even if that one is in a fight with another player. "Oh look, a DC - don't care about our mate killing him easily, we'll *** on his parade anyway".

Nox_Aeterna · April 2014

Speak for youself OP , i LOVE the idea that some are just plain stronger.

tengri · April 2014

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

Speak for youself OP , i LOVE the idea that some are just plain stronger.

And you are VR100 player yourself and "deserve" being stronger, yes?

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ElSlayer · April 2014

/popcorn

martinhpb16_ESO · April 2014

I'm not a veteran and therefore I avoid direct confrontation with vets, unless the odds are in my favour.

And that is how it should be.

I am working towards veteran.

When MMOs stop being about progression i.e. rewards v effort and just become about reward v turning up then this is when they become boring.

To the OP, yes it can be frustrating. Learn from your experiences, observe the vets, read the forums and use this opportunity to plan your vet build and learn your class. But dude dont whine on the forums lol.

Luke Skywalker didnt make it as a Jedi by whining.

xshadowclawzz12 · April 2014

martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm not a veteran and therefore I avoid direct confrontation with vets, unless the odds are in my favour.

And that is how it should be.

I am working towards veteran.

When MMOs stop being about progression i.e. rewards v effort and just become about reward v turning up then this is when they become boring.

To the OP, yes it can be frustrating. Learn from your experiences, observe the vets, read the forums and use this opportunity to plan your vet build and learn your class. But dude dont whine on the forums lol.

Luke Skywalker didnt make it as a Jedi by whining.

There's a difference between whining and stating something. He wanted to get zos's attention, not really yours. Also luke was a fictional character, if he was real he would probably complained a lot.

Custos91 · April 2014

I am okay with the idea, that a Veteran player should be stronger, i am now vet 3 but I said the exact same thing with lvl 27, just imagine what he did, how many fights he had won to come this far, it is only normal, that someone whose quests are like "rescue a cat" will get killed by "addsomesuperherooractionhero"

I enjoy pvp, but atm there is no such thing, because the people on my campaign are waiting for a vampire nerf, because they don't think people can learn how to beat these vampires...
Maybe a good thing, if they have nothing to fight against, they will get borred and leave Cyrodill, or troll another campaign...

tplink3r1 · April 2014

why this kind of people even bother playing mmorpgs?

88mister88b16_ESO · April 2014

when we where taking a keep yesterday a vet vampire ran into our group and used devouring swarm.not once but 3times in a row and taking down a group of 10 to 15 players with that single ultimate,i stayed clear of it and once the animations whas done i went on him and he just activated again and instakilled me.my guild mate who whas with me all so a templar vet1 but he is a tank(spec on heavy armour heavy on health and spellressist)he got instakilled aswell by the swarm.now when i use my morphed radialsweep (my ultimate) i do high area dmg,but....it certainly doesnt take down players from full to no health,devouring swarm does tho and apparently you can spam it.And yes a 50 should be stronger then a lower lvl but a lower lvl should all so be able to do more dmg on a vet player but currently they dont as like i said resources are bolstered,armour and dmg output is not,wich basicly incase of an 1v1 would take me 4times as long doing dmg to a 50vet as he would do it to me,there is no balance in that.bolt escape spammers vampire mist forms are currently all so very annoying,i agree but devouring swarm is just a joke and its being exploited.ive looked at the ww tree and i think they should be very op in theyr ultimate form it takes long to build up and once in the form you really need to stay focused in maintaining that form so its in good balance

Gisgo · April 2014

Oh its another veteran are stronger than rookies thread...
Whats the point of leveling in the first place?
Yup, getting stronger.

Also if vampires are OP you cant blame it on veterans, as not every vet is a vamp.

Asava · April 2014

I do find it kind of funny when 2-3 players will flat out turn tail and run from a lonely VR3 sorc. I'm all standing here wondering where the party went to after they moved out faster than my bolt escape will take me. I think they're stealing all mah beer!!!

pysgod1978b14_ESO · April 2014

Eh? Use the Fighter's Guild skills against vamps and werewolves. Slap them with silver bolt and other goodies and they drop like rocks.

88mister88b16_ESO · April 2014

who says im blaming any player?i dont even blame the developers even tho after such a long research they did on pts and still failed on balanced pvp for now.i love pvp and played it in so many games.ive reach end tiers in pvp in multible ones and yes im very competive but all so a teamplayer.my believe is the best pvp is a balanced pvp that isnt gear or lvl based but team objevtive based

88mister88b16_ESO · April 2014

pysgod1978b14_ESO wrote: »

Eh? Use the Fighter's Guild skills against vamps and werewolves. Slap them with silver bolt and other goodies and they drop like rocks.

uhm batswarm morphs are either makes vampire invisible for its duration or heals the target for a % of dmg done to each target.either way they are as good as immortal for the amount of time.ppl actually shot silverbolts at the target with zero effect

rawne1980b16_ESO · April 2014

Asava wrote: »

I do find it kind of funny when 2-3 players will flat out turn tail and run from a lonely VR3 sorc.

And I find it annoying when a sorc gets a beating and then teleports away.

I never ask for nerfs but when that gets fixed i'll be a happy bunny.

Valmond · April 2014

Custos91 wrote: »

I am okay with the idea, that a Veteran player should be stronger, i am now vet 3 but I said the exact same thing with lvl 27, just imagine what he did, how many fights he had won to come this far, it is only normal, that someone whose quests are like "rescue a cat" will get killed by "addsomesuperherooractionhero"

I enjoy pvp, but atm there is no such thing, because the people on my campaign are waiting for a vampire nerf, because they don't think people can learn how to beat these vampires...
Maybe a good thing, if they have nothing to fight against, they will get borred and leave Cyrodill, or troll another campaign...

I, to my great surprise, enjoy pvp, but there is no such thing.
Because the damn campaign is so bloody full, that i keep getting of the servers at peak hours, and then can't log in...

demendred · April 2014

I like the fact that my lvl 10 can get swamped by V's if Im not careful. Its fun to sneak pass PK's and have them run right past you w/o ever seeing you.