It's not as if you need ESO+ or to pay for anything for access to endeavors.

GW2 dailies often require expansion content to access as well. This is just a gentle nudge to get people to buy more content and I have no problem with that.

If you want all the things you need to buy all the stuff.

- Blackreach Public Dungeon has Clockwork Encounters
- Maelstrom Arena may have them given their are Clockwork Themed Arenas

Both Blackreach and Maelstrom are also DLC and therefore paywall areas, just like Clockwork City. So that particular Endeavor is paywalled out for people who don't have access to at least *one* of them, or ESO+ (the latter gives access to all of them).

There are still the other four - although TWO of those today require participation in a PVP area (either Complete a Battleground, or Gain Tel Var Stones.) Technically, the Tel Var Stones one is also reliant on DLC... however the Imperial City DLC has been free for years, and therefore isn't behind a paywall.

Do you have to gain the Tel Vars from actual players, or can you gain them from monsters, to fulfil the stipulation of that Endeavor?

If you have to gain them from actual players, you have to participate in PVP and actually win at it - which is by no means easy. If you want to gain them from monsters, or from event rewards, it may be easier - especially if the game counts all gains even if you subsequently lose them by getting killed. Best of all is if you can gain them from quest rewards - walk around carrying no Tel Vars, do the Imperial City quests even if you get killed a dozen times en route, and for heavens sake DO NOT open any of the rewards until you are safely back in your base, the rewards all contain lots of Tel Var and you can bank them immediately without leaving base.

If you have to kill other players, but aren't good enough to kill anyone... then you will have to enter a Battleground, which you can *complete* without killing another player (you will, in all likelihood, be a mighty drain on your team, and lose the game for them, but you only need to complete, not to win) - in addition to the other two Endeavors today which are both available in vanilla-game PVE areas.

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

- Blackreach Public Dungeon has Clockwork Encounters
- Maelstrom Arena may have them given their are Clockwork Themed Arenas

Both of those are paywalled, as is Vvardenfell for anyone who bought the game before mid-2018.

The only non-paywalled option for this endeavor seems to be the Precursor at someone's house.

jle30303 wrote: »

Both Blackreach and Maelstrom are also DLC and therefore paywall areas, just like Clockwork City. So that particular Endeavor is paywalled out for people who don't have access to at least *one* of them, or ESO+ (the latter gives access to all of them).

There are still the other four - although TWO of those today require participation in a PVP area (either Complete a Battleground, or Gain Tel Var Stones.) Technically, the Tel Var Stones one is also reliant on DLC... however the Imperial City DLC has been free for years, and therefore isn't behind a paywall.

Do you have to gain the Tel Vars from actual players, or can you gain them from monsters, to fulfil the stipulation of that Endeavor?

If you have to gain them from actual players, you have to participate in PVP and actually win at it - which is by no means easy. If you want to gain them from monsters, or from event rewards, it may be easier - especially if the game counts all gains even if you subsequently lose them by getting killed. Best of all is if you can gain them from quest rewards - walk around carrying no Tel Vars, do the Imperial City quests even if you get killed a dozen times en route, and for heavens sake DO NOT open any of the rewards until you are safely back in your base, the rewards all contain lots of Tel Var and you can bank them immediately without leaving base.

If you have to kill other players, but aren't good enough to kill anyone... then you will have to enter a Battleground, which you can *complete* without killing another player (you will, in all likelihood, be a mighty drain on your team, and lose the game for them, but you only need to complete, not to win) - in addition to the other two Endeavors today which are both available in vanilla-game PVE areas.

PVE mobs count

Can't escape this one I guess. The only DLC zone i've actually explored and progressed is Warvenfell, any other ones I happen to have I only visit for maps/Surveys. My options today are just Deconstruction, ultimate usage, and a Bruma quest that I know is most likely to be a chore and a half because my only thrown together PvP character is in the Dominion.

[snip]. People who never bought eso+ or any expansions are still feeling entitled to all content zos released for free.

You have base game options still, enjoy. Some dlc ones are easier? Tough luck, next time might be the opposite.

[edited to remove baiting comment]

Why do the game have to focus only on the base game every time? Is it not enough that we have all prologues and celebration events in the boring vanilla locations?
Endeavors has always 3 goals that not require a paid dlc. Use it.

Seals of Endeavor:*adds slight incentive to the pre-existing massive incentive to sub to ESO+ and/or pick up content.
Player: *Buys new content*
New content: "Guild skill lines increase through completing specific solo daily quests associated with the guild, for the active Companion"

The "kill 5 Clockwork foes" wasn't even working properly - I killed at least 8 before it decided I'd killed 5. Unless Bastian got the final hits on three of them.

fizl101 wrote: »

I'm not sure what is locked behind a DLC, have you tried dwarven ruins or the very first adds in HOF if it is clockworky things (Disclaimer - I haven't logged on yet to see what the endeavors are for today)

Alik'r Desert?

I meant to nab this last night, but forgot about it until too late.

yeah, sure, let's stick to the base game content released 7 years ago

Yeah yeah, we all know the craft bag makes this game playable for anyone that actively attempts to have some involvement in crafting or supplying themselves with their own resources. Obviously you wouldn't have to think twice about paying up for a sub or chapters/DLC directly in your position. I personally don't like to sustain active subscriptions, even Nintendo's 20$ online is iffy when all I want it for is the privilege to play one particular game with a friend, sometimes. I only got the 3-month reward when this game dropped the mandatory sub, and havent subscribed since then and instead literally rely on the free ESO+ Trials to save my inventory from the events that cram more new materials and junk at you each year. Most of my characters end up with 160/200 inventories on a normal day and I have to play inventory management after almost every dungeon and swap multiple characters to sort the materials and empty my bank for the next round. The 'Stickerbook" slightly helped with this problem.

I did buy select DLC packs a year later when they are on sale and assuming I had the spare crowns to do so, which I haven't had for over a year now since I stopped buying crowns. Still waiting for two hair styles for just a long to go on sale to use the last 690 I do have. I am not happy with the lack of promised changes from 3 years ago for Base game classes to be reworked/adjusted to better support tank/Healing playstyles enough to not get laughed at and walked over. Maybe if they ever remember that I'll be more willing to support again but all we got so far were Templars getting another heal.

Bleh, Im just rambling.

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

josiahva wrote: »

Clockwork City is old DLC at this point, I doubt there are many players who don't have it. Being locked behind old DLC doesnt even matter...use gold to buy crown...use crowns to buy DLC...its within the reach of base game players...all of it but the latest chapter always is, it just takes some moderate effort to make a little gold.

I mean, I still don't have it. I have also been a part of this game since the beginning. I choose not to give my slow earned gold to random people for crowns and have to trust them not to just run off with that. I tend to avoid player markets in genetal though, its a low interest of mine. However, I would be grateful if you volunteered to purchase the DLC pack for me as I actually don't have any of those in the current bundle either. I'm probably just the easily ignorable edge case that doesn't matter though so it's fine.

Come on now. You are making excuses. You know as well as I do that there are reputable Discord groups for crown sellers with feedback if you want to buy crowns safely. More importantly a DLC pack like Clockwork City costs 1500 crowns....that is 525,000 gold at a(fairly common) current exchange rate of 350:1. If ANYONE in this game doesn't care about gold and has less of it than I do, I would be shocked....but look at it this way...that is 15-20 potent nirncrux to farm to get enough gold....you can take a couple weeks farming the stuff an hour a day and have that. Even now I have something like 150k gold on my main toon and the only gold I ever get on that toon is what I get from selling garbage whites in dungeons to merchants...I average 100k a week doing that nonsense...not trying at all. The point is, if you wanted these DLCs and chapters, you would have them...the more likely scenario is that you want to complain about not having them. I don't know how much time you spend playing the game...but look at in terms of real money...1500 crowns is $15...that is 2 hours work at near minimum wage....people are willing to spend countless hours farming whatever set or lead, or item they are looking for(which is work in itself) but aren't willing to work for a couple hours more in the real world to get more content? Nope. Like I said....its an excuse that gives you cover to take the moral high ground and vilify the "evil corporations" like ZOS. Its like those people critical of everything Jeff Bezos does..all the while buying stuff off of Amazon left and right. ZOS is not requiring you to buy their DLCs, and you have endeavor options that have nothing to do with DLCs....and endeavors are free stuff anyway...you really do not have ground to stand on to complain about it at all.