Er...no, I can't say I get tired of it exactly. But then, my preferred playstyle is the sort of large group, organized raid, capture the objective, stand on the flag, repair the walls and doors type of gameplay that bombers target. Everywhere we went, we expected to be a target.

It's pretty much a necessary hazard of large group play to keep us on our toes and watching out for the good bombers.

Hold block when standing around, use detect pots, and don't be squishy.

Spread out and block? Run Magelight? Alternate use of detect pots when you’re stacked up? I don’t even remember the last time I died to a bomber, even when I was still in pvp daily.

neferpitou73 wrote: »

Dominion_Nightblade wrote: »

Lol yea I'm sure it's hard for a bomber to kill a whole zerg. The ones that don't get hit can just rez you. But my playstyle is different. I dont have fun zerging anymore and just running through doors. I run with a grp of 8max and just farm at a RSS or get inside a keep to farm on the walls. And if we stack we all get hit at once. I know bombers enjoy their playstyle. I'm hoping most will get bored and go back to actually fighting or pvping again like no procs was.

Not trying to sound smart but are you spreading far enough? Standing on the edge of a siege is good enough. Then you block and have you're healers stand on the sides and heal. My group has tanked several bombs lately like this.

I dont see how that is trying to sound smart sir. We have 1 dedicated healer and sometimes I will say spread and we dont get bombed. But because we spread we get wiped by the 15+ dc or ep trying to get the RSS back. And if we ball up again we get bombed. I think with no procs just ending everyone is excited to bomb again. And just hoping it will die down and go back to maybe 1 or 2 bombers per farm.

Dominion_Nightblade wrote: »

neferpitou73 wrote: »

Dominion_Nightblade wrote: »

Lol yea I'm sure it's hard for a bomber to kill a whole zerg. The ones that don't get hit can just rez you. But my playstyle is different. I dont have fun zerging anymore and just running through doors. I run with a grp of 8max and just farm at a RSS or get inside a keep to farm on the walls. And if we stack we all get hit at once. I know bombers enjoy their playstyle. I'm hoping most will get bored and go back to actually fighting or pvping again like no procs was.

Not trying to sound smart but are you spreading far enough? Standing on the edge of a siege is good enough. Then you block and have you're healers stand on the sides and heal. My group has tanked several bombs lately like this.

I dont see how that is trying to sound smart sir. We have 1 dedicated healer and sometimes I will say spread and we dont get bombed. But because we spread we get wiped by the 15+ dc or ep trying to get the RSS back. And if we ball up again we get bombed. I think with no procs just ending everyone is excited to bomb again. And just hoping it will die down and go back to maybe 1 or 2 bombers per farm.

While you can laugh off my example as zerging, I was actually talking about playing with an organized guild.

It seems to me that you are trying to do too much at once for a small-scale style group. Small scale fights are inherently limited by the ability of individual players to fight on their own, and so that effects how many players you can fight before you get overwhelmed by sheer numbers or incoming damage, which is exactly what you describe happening.

If you want to fight outnumbered vs enemy groups twice your size or more, yeah, you want to stick together where you can pool your damage and healing. This leaves you vulnerable to bombers, which is working as intended. Bombers are a natural counter to groups of all sizes, and a resurgence in their numbers is to be expected now that Proc sets are back.

If you want to fight outnumbered while being less vulnerable to bombers, then you need to take a page from the more successful ball groups. You have one dedicated healer, sure, but you also need to be stacking cross heals, buffs, and supporting gear on each other, especially when you know that bombers are targeting you.

Honestly, the sort of farming at keeps that you describe is something that ball groups do very successfully. If you are having problems with bombers, I'd look towards the good ball groups on your campaign to figure out where you should improve.

Dominion_Nightblade wrote: »

neferpitou73 wrote: »

Dominion_Nightblade wrote: »

Lol yea I'm sure it's hard for a bomber to kill a whole zerg. The ones that don't get hit can just rez you. But my playstyle is different. I dont have fun zerging anymore and just running through doors. I run with a grp of 8max and just farm at a RSS or get inside a keep to farm on the walls. And if we stack we all get hit at once. I know bombers enjoy their playstyle. I'm hoping most will get bored and go back to actually fighting or pvping again like no procs was.

Not trying to sound smart but are you spreading far enough? Standing on the edge of a siege is good enough. Then you block and have you're healers stand on the sides and heal. My group has tanked several bombs lately like this.

I dont see how that is trying to sound smart sir. We have 1 dedicated healer and sometimes I will say spread and we dont get bombed. But because we spread we get wiped by the 15+ dc or ep trying to get the RSS back. And if we ball up again we get bombed. I think with no procs just ending everyone is excited to bomb again. And just hoping it will die down and go back to maybe 1 or 2 bombers per farm.

One dedicated healer for how many in group? Do you have the rest of the group maintaining RR/Echoing vigor?

Edit: if there aren’t any lower health pugs around then you might need to bump up group max health numbers and require everyone be at a certain minimum.

The bombers are unnecessary because they take out ball groups. They put so much emphasis on trying to take out bombers now the that ball groups run rampant.

Bit sick of the ongoing stam meta too..the spin to wins...the buggy Dizzying swings and execute that desynch the crap out of you...in a whole, no..it's not a pleasant experience so far (this patch).

Please play your game producers!

Bombers are a necessary part of the Cyrodiil food-chain, they're like Hyenas or something.

I play in a ball group and am thus subject to frequent bombing attempts - sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. Certainly, we have to take extra precautions now that the recent balance changes have empowered bombers.

However, when you die to a skillful bomber (and if you play for long enough then you'll know who they are) it's best to simply tip your metaphorical cap to them. And when you instead CC and kill them before their bomb goes off... feel free to whisper or emote to them about their ignominious failure.