It might improve things, though the mile gates and bridges would need a revamp to make it work.

I suppose if they made the gates and bridges into the loadscreen and immunity area and then had a little wooden palisade on the other side to act as the defensive chokepoint, then it could be done and might even fix the bridge vs milegate imbalances.

Amottica wrote: »

I am not knocking or arguing with the idea presented here. After all, I admit I probably know less than the OP of this thread. I think it is good to present ideas since someone just might hit on something worth looking at.

I think it is easy to assume a lot about how things are designed but we really do not know. I have wondered is the activity at one keep has a significant effect on the activity at a keep on the other side of the map. I would l would suggest there is some effect as there is probably some effect the activity finder has on aspects of Cyrodiil since all the physical servers for one "server" are connected.

My premise is if the activity at one keep is creating lag there but has little effect on the performance at a keep on the other side of the map then the Zenimax already has a system in place that uses separate servers (physical or virtual) handling different battles in the game. In other words, the design of Cyrdiil may already do what OP is suggesting but in a less obvious manner.

Has anyone determined that extreme lag at one keep affects the entire campaign or is it more isolated?

You are right and we do not know how things are designed in the specific.

But what we all see in cyrodiil is a huge map filled with lot of players, and even if there is 1 bar full of red players and the other alliances are not populated you still lag.

Seems the servers cannot handle a big map with almost no limitations. Battlegrounds and imperial city seems to be programmed as separated instances where the game render and consider them separated from the rest of the game, or at least the megaserver memory is limited to those zones, for example in battleground you always have a maximum of 12 players per instance, so the memory needed cannot shift to insanely higher values in matters of seconds, it's pretty much all the same.

Imperial city is very low population I agree, but during the annual events of telvars the map become full with people, but lag is a lot more manageable and you don't even notice.

I never experienced the cyrodiil issues in bgs or ic. Like the character start flying into the air and moving slow motion, skills like dizzy swing which are stuck mid air and don't end the cast, resources and stats, sets desyncs.

So why not start from there?

So if in the zone of Bruma for example, or near an outpost there are only 10 people, the server will render that zone and you will feel like you are in a bg match.

They did hundreds of tests with all the same result, which was irrelevant, nothing happened or even worsening things... so.

LightYagami wrote: »

It was slightly better over the past few months when proc sets were disables.

Now the horrible lag and disconnection are back with proc sets.

It was better not because of procs disabled, but because nobody was playing cyro, lot of proctards abusers just didn't even bothered to log in, now they returned in mass to get carried again and server cannot hold the population anymore.

But yeah, I played a lot of cyro no procs and I didn't see that slightly better you say.

Only playable 20 minutes per day, and then all of a sudden the usual bad desyncs and things happening, so yeah.

LightYagami wrote: »

GRXRG wrote: »

LightYagami wrote: »

It was slightly better over the past few months when proc sets were disables.

Now the horrible lag and disconnection are back with proc sets.

It was better not because of procs disabled, but because nobody was playing cyro, lot of proctards abusers just didn't even bothered to log in, now they returned in mass to get carried again and server cannot hold the population anymore.

But yeah, I played a lot of cyro no procs and I didn't see that slightly better you say.

Only playable 20 minutes per day, and then all of a sudden the usual bad desyncs and things happening, so yeah.

I play in Cyrodiil basically every day, proc or no-proc.
Even during prime time and all 3 factions are pop-locked, no-proc Cyrodiil worked better.
Of course by "better" I mean slightly better, but nothing revolutionary...

(by the way I'm on PC platform)

Pc EU myself, which is notorious to be the worse performance wise so... xD

GRXRG wrote: »

LightYagami wrote: »

GRXRG wrote: »

LightYagami wrote: »

It was slightly better over the past few months when proc sets were disables.

Now the horrible lag and disconnection are back with proc sets.

It was better not because of procs disabled, but because nobody was playing cyro, lot of proctards abusers just didn't even bothered to log in, now they returned in mass to get carried again and server cannot hold the population anymore.

But yeah, I played a lot of cyro no procs and I didn't see that slightly better you say.

Only playable 20 minutes per day, and then all of a sudden the usual bad desyncs and things happening, so yeah.

I play in Cyrodiil basically every day, proc or no-proc.
Even during prime time and all 3 factions are pop-locked, no-proc Cyrodiil worked better.
Of course by "better" I mean slightly better, but nothing revolutionary...

(by the way I'm on PC platform)

Pc EU myself, which is notorious to be the worse performance wise so... xD

PC NA, just crashed again

Extinct_Solo_Player wrote: »

The only thing that would work somewhat is reverting the server side changes back to client side, it will improve cc break delay and the problem of skills failing to actually cast. Lag wouldn't be totally eliminated but it will be 10x better than the current "dice roll" effect we have currently.

I love when i break free and my character is freezed in that position but still moves around like micheal jackson moonwalk...

But still dunno how some players insta break free and roll dodge after being CC like they have 0 lag, for me that is an utopy even having break free binded not default and my reaction time is super fast.

Extinct_Solo_Player wrote: »

The only thing that would work somewhat is reverting the server side changes back to client side, it will improve cc break delay and the problem of skills failing to actually cast. Lag wouldn't be totally eliminated but it will be 10x better than the current "dice roll" effect we have currently.

Client side can be manipulated and changed in the client. Remember the notorious meteor showers?
You can make server think you have more (unlimited) resources than you actually do, I say keep it server side unless they implement some kind of anti-cheat system like other games have.

milllaurie wrote: »

Extinct_Solo_Player wrote: »

The only thing that would work somewhat is reverting the server side changes back to client side, it will improve cc break delay and the problem of skills failing to actually cast. Lag wouldn't be totally eliminated but it will be 10x better than the current "dice roll" effect we have currently.

Client side can be manipulated and changed in the client. Remember the notorious meteor showers?
You can make server think you have more (unlimited) resources than you actually do, I say keep it server side unless they implement some kind of anti-cheat system like other games have.

yes in 2016 for a few days it was a thing, but nothing of the sort happened since. They only moved the majority of stuff to server in the q1 2020 patch and since then the performance has been 10x worse. Reverting that change won't bring back the 2016 fiasco.