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No patch fix for loss of "Ivory Brigade" knowledge?

HumbleThaumaturge
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See no mention in patch notes of a fix for losing "Ivory Brigade" knowledge. I learned 10 "Ivory Brigade" motif chapters, and I verified they were learned. A short time later, I realized that the "Ivory Brigade" motif knowledge had been lost. It was lost at crafting tables, and it was lost in Lore Library (which was showing 0/14, instead of 10/14, for Ivory Brigade). However, my crafter still had knowledge of the Outfit Styles associated with the 10 motif chapters previously learned.

I was hoping this might be a UI error that would be fixed with today's patch. But there is no mention of it in the patch notes. If it is not fixed, it sure is an expensive bug for the player.
  • Anne13
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    I read the full book and the same with Night hollow and neither has gone from the lore library.
    Seperate motifs from traders are still saying I need to learn them
  • Ragged_Claw
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    I haven't checked the lore library, that's worrying. I have noticed that I know the motifs but they still come up as unlearned and I've had the same with a couple of Wayward Guardian motifs I put up for sale. I cancelled them because it was saying I hadn't learned them when I had. Confusing.
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  • danno8
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    See no mention in patch notes of a fix for losing "Ivory Brigade" knowledge. I learned 10 "Ivory Brigade" motif chapters, and I verified they were learned. A short time later, I realized that the "Ivory Brigade" motif knowledge had been lost. It was lost at crafting tables, and it was lost in Lore Library (which was showing 0/14, instead of 10/14, for Ivory Brigade). However, my crafter still had knowledge of the Outfit Styles associated with the 10 motif chapters previously learned.

    I was hoping this might be a UI error that would be fixed with today's patch. But there is no mention of it in the patch notes. If it is not fixed, it sure is an expensive bug for the player.

    Apparently if you try to eat another book, it will tell you you already know the style. This appears to be strictly a UI error.
  • MisterLaiho
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    Wayward Guardian Style has the same issue
  • ZOS_SarahHecker
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    Hey all, just confirming the team is working on a fix for an issue where motif lorebook knowledge appears to be lost. This will be included in a future incremental and should be a UI issue only (your characters should still retain the knowledge of the style.)
    Staff Post
  • Seraphaile
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    Yes, but with the style pages showing as unknown even if you know them, can you end up wasting pages reading ones by accident that you know already?
  • Anony_Mouse
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    Same thing has happened to my Wayward Guardian

    I have learnt all but the leg page, yet none show as known. My Crafter still knows the style and can apply it at outfit stations.
  • virtus753
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    See no mention in patch notes of a fix for losing "Ivory Brigade" knowledge. I learned 10 "Ivory Brigade" motif chapters, and I verified they were learned. A short time later, I realized that the "Ivory Brigade" motif knowledge had been lost. It was lost at crafting tables, and it was lost in Lore Library (which was showing 0/14, instead of 10/14, for Ivory Brigade). However, my crafter still had knowledge of the Outfit Styles associated with the 10 motif chapters previously learned.

    I was hoping this might be a UI error that would be fixed with today's patch. But there is no mention of it in the patch notes. If it is not fixed, it sure is an expensive bug for the player.

    Others have been saying that crafting motif knowledge is not lost (as Sarah Hecker also claimed above). Is it possible you don’t have the Clasps and have the crafting station set to hide motifs for which you don’t have the mat?

    Otherwise this is the first I’ve heard of this being a bigger issue than a UI error.
  • ZOS_SarahHecker
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    Seraphaile wrote: »
    Yes, but with the style pages showing as unknown even if you know them, can you end up wasting pages reading ones by accident that you know already?

    It should tell you that you already know the style when you try to use it.
    Staff Post
  • HumbleThaumaturge
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    See no mention in patch notes of a fix for losing "Ivory Brigade" knowledge. I learned 10 "Ivory Brigade" motif chapters, and I verified they were learned. A short time later, I realized that the "Ivory Brigade" motif knowledge had been lost. It was lost at crafting tables, and it was lost in Lore Library (which was showing 0/14, instead of 10/14, for Ivory Brigade). However, my crafter still had knowledge of the Outfit Styles associated with the 10 motif chapters previously learned.

    I was hoping this might be a UI error that would be fixed with today's patch. But there is no mention of it in the patch notes. If it is not fixed, it sure is an expensive bug for the player.

    Others have been saying that crafting motif knowledge is not lost (as Sarah Hecker also claimed above). Is it possible you don’t have the Clasps and have the crafting station set to hide motifs for which you don’t have the mat?

    Otherwise this is the first I’ve heard of this being a bigger issue than a UI error.

    I'm glad you asked. When I checked it again, just now, I have the ability to craft the items for the 10 Ivory Brigade chapters I have learned. I could have sworn it said "Learn Style to Unlock" yesterday and this morning. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. I have been guilty of player-error many times in Tamriel. "Lore Library" still shows 0/14, but I don't really care about that. I am just happy to have crafting knowledge. Hope it stays that way.
    Edited by HumbleThaumaturge on June 14, 2021 6:41PM
  • virtus753
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    See no mention in patch notes of a fix for losing "Ivory Brigade" knowledge. I learned 10 "Ivory Brigade" motif chapters, and I verified they were learned. A short time later, I realized that the "Ivory Brigade" motif knowledge had been lost. It was lost at crafting tables, and it was lost in Lore Library (which was showing 0/14, instead of 10/14, for Ivory Brigade). However, my crafter still had knowledge of the Outfit Styles associated with the 10 motif chapters previously learned.

    I was hoping this might be a UI error that would be fixed with today's patch. But there is no mention of it in the patch notes. If it is not fixed, it sure is an expensive bug for the player.

    Others have been saying that crafting motif knowledge is not lost (as Sarah Hecker also claimed above). Is it possible you don’t have the Clasps and have the crafting station set to hide motifs for which you don’t have the mat?

    Otherwise this is the first I’ve heard of this being a bigger issue than a UI error.

    I'm glad you asked. When I checked it again, just now, I have the ability to craft the items for the 10 Ivory Brigade chapters I have learned. I could have sworn it said "Learn Style to Unlock" yesterday and this morning. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. I have been guilty of player-error many times in Tamriel. "Lore Library" still shows 0/14, but I don't really care about that. I am just happy to have crafting knowledge. Hope it stays that way.

    Glad to hear it's working now!
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