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Blackwood bomber build?

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I haven't been on my bomber since before they introduced CP 2.0 and removed proc sets from Cyrodiil. I know they made some other significant changes as well to armor and weapon passives.

My bomber was a Khajiit wearing VD, Mech Acuity, and Balorgh with two swords (one Nirnhoned, one Sharpened) and using the shadow Mundus.

Is this still a viable build after all the changes or are people rocking different stuff now? Mostly curious about the weapons and whether to use 2 swords, 2 axes, a greatsword, or a greataxe.
  • Master_Kas
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    I haven't been on my bomber since before they introduced CP 2.0 and removed proc sets from Cyrodiil. I know they made some other significant changes as well to armor and weapon passives.

    My bomber was a Khajiit wearing VD, Mech Acuity, and Balorgh with two swords (one Nirnhoned, one Sharpened) and using the shadow Mundus.

    Is this still a viable build after all the changes or are people rocking different stuff now? Mostly curious about the weapons and whether to use 2 swords, 2 axes, a greatsword, or a greataxe.

    I'm still using Mech, bal and vd with 2 swords (nirn+sharp). Only change I did was added shimmering frenzy + spelldamage mundus instead of shadow. Still works on repairers, flags and wayshrines when they aren't spamming aoe to reveal or full healing.

    There's probably better setups now but I'm to cheap atm :<
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  • CaperGuy
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    I've briefly thought about trying axes instead of swords, or trying True Sworn Fury as options, but they're just curiosities of mine. I have a suspicion that Mech Acuity + VD + Balorghs with 2 swords will continue to work just fine for me. I'm also in no-cp so it works pretty well anyway.
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  • llElLoboll
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    I've been using acuity, vd and balorgh on a high elf with two swords the last few days and it's been stronger imo this patch so far. I have one infused with two BT on the jewels and I hit a 19k vd proc today in cp. The standard bomb blade build still works perfectly fine.
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    llElLoboll wrote: »
    I've been using acuity, vd and balorgh on a high elf with two swords the last few days and it's been stronger imo this patch so far. I have one infused with two BT on the jewels and I hit a 19k vd proc today in cp. The standard bomb blade build still works perfectly fine.

    It would work fine for anyone that runs in a group of NBs on a solo target, or with a stack.

    Why not be more honest about the fact that players attempting those builds die more often than they ever have in this proc environment and fail a lot more too?
  • Theignson
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    Since they re-instated proc sets, Bombers are back. They were gone for months but I got hit , from one of the bombers on my server, with a whopping VD blast. Now I am "reminded" to watch for them again :)
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    Theignson wrote: »
    Since they re-instated proc sets, Bombers are back. They were gone for months but I got hit , from one of the bombers on my server, with a whopping VD blast. Now I am "reminded" to watch for them again :)

    Yeah, I figured it would be a target-rich environment when they re-enabled procs because a lot of people grew complacent during the no-proc period.
  • Winter_exe
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    Krulzuk wrote: »
    I've briefly thought about trying axes instead of swords, or trying True Sworn Fury as options, but they're just curiosities of mine. I have a suspicion that Mech Acuity + VD + Balorghs with 2 swords will continue to work just fine for me. I'm also in no-cp so it works pretty well anyway.

    I tested True Sworn Fury, this set doesn't work. Absolutely. I left a report, but this is ZoS, it will probably be repaired after a year) Two axes in practice come out better than two swords, because they have critical damage. The only issue right now is the low VD damage, because it has added weapon / spell power scaling.
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    Winter_exe wrote: »
    Krulzuk wrote: »
    I've briefly thought about trying axes instead of swords, or trying True Sworn Fury as options, but they're just curiosities of mine. I have a suspicion that Mech Acuity + VD + Balorghs with 2 swords will continue to work just fine for me. I'm also in no-cp so it works pretty well anyway.

    I tested True Sworn Fury, this set doesn't work. Absolutely. I left a report, but this is ZoS, it will probably be repaired after a year) Two axes in practice come out better than two swords, because they have critical damage. The only issue right now is the low VD damage, because it has added weapon / spell power scaling.

    Yeah I was thinking about axes since I'm a Khajiit using The Shadow but I was just wondering if anyone has tried it yet with any success.
  • L_Nici
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    Honestly Bombers are always the same. VD, Mechanical Acuity, Balorgh, and yes they do work, I saw a few very nice bombers since Procs returned to Cyro with all the buffs to Damage they hit harder than ever. Also if you run Mechanical Acuity, you can drop all other critbuffs and maybe get a slot for Simmering Frenzy, if you want to be a vampire. Afterall bombing is usually a suicide mission anyway.
    Edited by L_Nici on June 6, 2021 8:51AM
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  • YandereGirlfriend
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    L_Nici wrote: »
    Honestly Bombers are always the same. VD, Mechanical Acuity, Balorgh, and yes they do work, I saw a few very nice bombers since Procs returned to Cyro with all the buffs to Damage they hit harder than ever. Also if you run Mechanical Acuity, you can drop all other critbuffs and maybe get a slot for Simmering Frenzy, if you want to be a vampire. Afterall bombing is usually a suicide mission anyway.

    Indeed.

    The impact of the +1000 Weapon/Spell Damage was never really felt since it came on the heels of the non-proc era. With the buffed damage of Proxies, ultimates, spammables, and the radius increase of VD, bombers are hitting harder than ever before.

    As for weapon choice, I would strongly suggest Axes over Swords if you're using Acuity (and you should be).
    Edited by YandereGirlfriend on June 6, 2021 8:39PM
  • DrSlaughtr
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    You don't need VD if you don't like it.

    Balorgh + Mechanical + Saxhleel Champion. Yeah, Sax is a trial set but all you need is the 5 piece.
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  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    You don't need VD if you don't like it.

    Balorgh + Mechanical + Saxhleel Champion. Yeah, Sax is a trial set but all you need is the 5 piece.

    What kind of bomber doesn't like VD lol? That may be a decent group set, but far from ideal for a solo bomber.
  • DrSlaughtr
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    A lot of ppl i know really enjoyed bombing without VD and 20 percent extra crit dam isn't anything to scoff at.

    You don't need VD to kill.
    Edited by DrSlaughtr on June 7, 2021 12:39AM
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  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    Can you make bombing without VD work? Sure, sort of.

    You will never match the kill potential that VD has though or be able to consistently wipe large groups.
  • DrSlaughtr
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    People been killing full groups without VD for two months. VD is easy but not necessary.
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  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    Trust me, I know you can still bomb, but the difference is significant.
  • CaperGuy
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    Winter_exe wrote: »
    Krulzuk wrote: »
    I've briefly thought about trying axes instead of swords, or trying True Sworn Fury as options, but they're just curiosities of mine. I have a suspicion that Mech Acuity + VD + Balorghs with 2 swords will continue to work just fine for me. I'm also in no-cp so it works pretty well anyway.

    I tested True Sworn Fury, this set doesn't work. Absolutely. I left a report, but this is ZoS, it will probably be repaired after a year) Two axes in practice come out better than two swords, because they have critical damage. The only issue right now is the low VD damage, because it has added weapon / spell power scaling.

    I just tried two axes on Xbox on my Khajiit Mechanical Acuity / Shadow Mundus bomber on my cluster of target dummies(still Flames of Ambition patch at present), and the damage of my skills were very very similar but with swords very slightly better.

    Where I'll be getting 2% more crit damage per axe tomorrow though, I'll have to test again. I've gotta see how much of a tradeoff it would be with damage gain on proxy/soul tether/sap essence vs. a potential lower VD proc value.
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  • wazzz56
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    Can you make bombing without VD work? Sure, sort of.

    You will never match the kill potential that VD has though or be able to consistently wipe large groups.

    I bombed exclusively while I played during no proc, and while not having the proc from vd ( I still ran the 5pc vd for the pen) didn't keep me from killing people, it still would have made the good bombs even better..that being said I could imagine any reason not to use vd in a proc enabled cyro..unless maybe you were bombing within a zerg
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  • DrSlaughtr
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    I have two friends who hate vd. I watched them destroy groups all last night without it. It's harder for sure.
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  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    How could you possibly hate VD?
  • ThePianist
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    I use Acuity body pieces (divines with shadow mundus). Balorgh monster set. Saxheel Inferno staff/Jewelry pieces, for that Major Force buff. Yeah I paid a lot of gold during trial runs just to get the right Saxheel pieces. Major force man, it’s so good, no Vicious death needed. I would have used dual wield sax but 5 people got inferno staff when I ran the trial so I just worked with that.

    If you want to build 500 ult points without revealing your location, you’ll need to pop heroism pots. The pots are expensive though.
  • YandereGirlfriend
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    ThePianist wrote: »
    I use Acuity body pieces (divines with shadow mundus). Balorgh monster set. Saxheel Inferno staff/Jewelry pieces, for that Major Force buff. Yeah I paid a lot of gold during trial runs just to get the right Saxheel pieces. Major force man, it’s so good, no Vicious death needed. I would have used dual wield sax but 5 people got inferno staff when I ran the trial so I just worked with that.

    If you want to build 500 ult points without revealing your location, you’ll need to pop heroism pots. The pots are expensive though.

    That's a combination that I've really been interested to try. Glad to hear that it's working out.
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