PTS ACCESS FOR ALL

Ashigaru · April 2014

The beta is over the game has launched the PTS beta club needs to be wiped away and all people that purchased this game deserve the right to have access to the Public Test Server. There is no reason a select few deserve access to new content before others, we saw how much that helped with multiple exploits and bugs that were very blaintaint that were left and abused once the game launched and i guarantee if you check the original exploiters were PTS players.

There is no reason that the content testing should be limited and everyone should be able to test this. I dont know of any game that had a PTS that limited access to just a select few.

We all deserve access to the PTS now.

Mitrenga · April 2014

What makes you think you can participate in the PTS? Just because you are paying the taxes, are you allowed to participate in parliament meetings in your country? If anyone would join the PTS, it would be abused.

Lalai · April 2014

nudel wrote: »

@Ashigaru‌ ZOS has plans to open up the PTS in the future. IIRC Craglorn was planned to be in the game at launch and had to be pushed back to just after. In that sense, having it still closed this early into launch means that they'll have testers who are already very familiar with the game rather than having some of the kneejerk threads calling for nerfs by people who don't quite know their own abilities/ weaknesses yet.

Should it be open to paying customers in the future? Yes

Is it going to be? Yes.

Why are we still talking about this.

Anyway back to the original topic, I am also somewhat glad that they were leaked as it could quiet some of the rage towards this game...Could being the operative word. Lot of good stuff in those notes.

Re-quoted because that answer fits almost everything I wanted to say.

The only thing I want to add is that I would much rather them focus time and resources on fixing the bugs, and handling the server load currently playing the actual game prior to giving everyone access to the PTS. They've said public access is coming, and in all likelihood for now they have much bigger things to worry about then making sure the entire player base has access to the test server because a few players feel entitled to it.

I've never known a game to launch with fully accessible Public Test Server within the first few months.

Ashigaru · April 2014

Mitrenga wrote: »

What makes you think you can participate in the PTS? Just because you are paying the taxes, are you allowed to participate in parliament meetings in your country? If anyone would join the PTS, it would be abused.

I don't understand how you people can get pissed about the smallest things but let this slide by, they are letting a select few have access to new content to"test" it and we saw what happened from the PTS prior to launch.

I can't say what was tested or not but some huge exploits got through and allowed people to hit vet rank and above almost overnight. There is no excuse for them to limit access to a select few when we have ALL paid for this game and we deserve to be able to test any content that is on the Public Test Server period. There has never been a game that had a PTS that only allowed a select few in to test product they let everyone in that had paid for the game and this needs to be the case here. Hell they still have their own little forums...

Audigy · April 2014

Blizzard limits their PTR to selected streamers since many years, they did so for Diablo and they do so for Wow - nobody complains. But now of course if ZO does it, its evil and bad.

Oh well

FezzikVizzini · April 2014

PTS - Well it has a server but it is not public and it's obvious they do bugger all testing on it.

Saihung423 · April 2014

STO has a public test server, Tribble.

EQ2 allows you to request a character copy onto the test server.

I could name more...but I just wanted to counter the game name dropping of ones that didn't allow it publicly.

It has it's pro's and cons. I like that in EQ2 there were people from sites like tentonhammer reporting on updates and developments on the test server so the live server inhabitants could benefit.

nerevarine1138 · April 2014

You know what this topic needed after you were already told that it's something ZO is working on? A new thread.

You got your answer in the other thread. The next round of PTS testing will probably be open to all. What possible purpose does starting a new thread serve?

ZOS_JasonI · April 2014

Hey there, everyone. Please be aware that our long-term goal is for anyone who has an active subscription for The Elder Scrolls Online to have access to the public test server when it is open. We'll have more details in the future. Thank you for your understanding!

Saihung423 · April 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

You know what this topic needed after you were already told that it's something ZO is working on? A new thread.

You got your answer in the other thread. The next round of PTS testing will probably be open to all. What possible purpose does starting a new thread serve?

lol, ahh, they are. Groovy.

Well, for my part sorry for contributing to a duplicate:)

lordspyder · April 2014

ZOS_JasonL wrote: »

Hey there, everyone. Please be aware that our long-term goal is for anyone who has an active subscription for The Elder Scrolls Online to have access to the public test server when it is open. We'll have more details in the future. Thank you for your understanding!

/thread

Ashigaru · April 2014

ZOS_JasonL wrote: »

Hey there, everyone. Please be aware that our long-term goal is for anyone who has an active subscription for The Elder Scrolls Online to have access to the public test server when it is open. We'll have more details in the future. Thank you for your understanding!

We had plenty of understanding when you told us everything would be fine that the game was being tested on the PTS not just the weekend beta runs and look what we have now, a total cluster. There is no reason that the little PTS private club needs to be extended from the beta .

The point is that the server is open evidently and people do have access to it, there is no reason that you could not allow access to all members of the game as it stands right now, all of us here have now dropped a chunk of money for this car wreck and we all deserve access to the test server since we can see how well the little club you have on there now did from the beta.

nerevarine1138 · April 2014

Ashigaru wrote: »

ZOS_JasonL wrote: »

Hey there, everyone. Please be aware that our long-term goal is for anyone who has an active subscription for The Elder Scrolls Online to have access to the public test server when it is open. We'll have more details in the future. Thank you for your understanding!

We had plenty of understanding when you told us everything would be fine that the game was being tested a the PTS not just the weekend beta runs and look what we have now, a total cluster. There is no reason that the little PTS private club needs to be extended the beta .

The point is that the server is open evidently and people do have access to it, there is no reason that you could not allow access to all members of the game as it stands right now, all of us here have now dropped a chunk of money for this car wreck and we all deserve access to the test server since we can see how well the little club you have on there now did from the beta.

You're just bound and determined to complain about nothing, aren't you?

This is a non-issue. They're going to open up the PTS server to everyone, just not right now. You'll live.

Eris · April 2014

The negative to anyone being allowed on the PTS is that they go and play on the PTS and then when the new release comes out they complain that it's boring and there's nothing new to do.

Ashigaru · April 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Ashigaru wrote: »

ZOS_JasonL wrote: »

Hey there, everyone. Please be aware that our long-term goal is for anyone who has an active subscription for The Elder Scrolls Online to have access to the public test server when it is open. We'll have more details in the future. Thank you for your understanding!

We had plenty of understanding when you told us everything would be fine that the game was being tested a the PTS not just the weekend beta runs and look what we have now, a total cluster. There is no reason that the little PTS private club needs to be extended the beta .

The point is that the server is open evidently and people do have access to it, there is no reason that you could not allow access to all members of the game as it stands right now, all of us here have now dropped a chunk of money for this car wreck and we all deserve access to the test server since we can see how well the little club you have on there now did from the beta.

You're just bound and determined to complain about nothing, aren't you?

This is a non-issue. They're going to open up the PTS server to everyone, just not right now. You'll live.

this is not a non issue, we have a small select few having access to new content and we have all paid for this game and we deserve the same access.

Ashigaru · April 2014

Eris wrote: »

The negative to anyone being allowed on the PTS is that they go and play on the PTS and then when the new release comes out they complain that it's boring and there's nothing new to do.

Or the positive could be people report the bugs that are there. The larger the pool of players testing the more likely hood that things won't slip through the cracks as we saw from release and to this day.

Yshaar · April 2014

ZOS_JasonL wrote: »

Hey there, everyone. Please be aware that our long-term goal is for anyone who has an active subscription for The Elder Scrolls Online to have access to the public test server when it is open. We'll have more details in the future. Thank you for your understanding!

The Forum is so strange. Why is this not listed here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/tracker ?

nerevarine1138 · April 2014

Ashigaru wrote: »

this is not a non issue, we have a small select few having access to new content and we have all paid for this game and we deserve the same access.

Believe it or not, PTS access isn't actually part of your subscription fee. It's a neat little perk. You're aware (and have been aware for some time) that you're going to get access to the PTS. You're also aware that they aren't going to press a magic button that opens the PTS up right now, so you're clearly aware that this thread serves no purpose except to complain about something that is already going to be changed.

Ashigaru · April 2014

The main thing this provides is exclusivity to “world firsts” and other such things, along with a significant shortage of eyes on potential changes. With pre-launch PTSers getting first crack at Craglorn (Erlexx’s video was cut mid-stream after the second pull in the Trial tonight after hours of lead up to “Craglorn footage”), for folks who are trying to be competitive, it’s a significant advantage. I’m not in one of the more elite guilds for ESO, but I have been competitive in many other MMORPGs. I don’t fault them for using the tools at their disposal, but PTS in MMORPGs post-launch are typically completely open to anyone wanting access so the most eyes can review possible/future content to verify the changes taking place have time for feedback by the larger community.PTS post-launch should be public, hence the name. It’s not a private test server.

That said, at least posting the PTS patch notes goes a little ways toward generating continued community feedback and I do appreciate getting to see them in advance of the patch being pushed to live.

This is a quote that makes a lot of sense. So we are testing and we are streaming it while we do the trials and we figure out how to do it the fastest, as the quote states this is a competition and these people in there now are getting an advantage over everyone else. What would be funny is if they didn't allow anyone to stream now after this lol.

The OP was Organic for some reason it didn't show his name when i quoted.

Lazarus_Long · April 2014

@nerevarine1138‌ @Ashigaru‌

Just stop it. This forum doesn't need it, doesn't want it, and won't tolerate it. You both need step off the soap boxes and agree to disagree.

nerevarine1138 · April 2014

Lazarus_Long wrote: »

@nerevarine1138‌ @Ashigaru‌

Just stop it. This forum doesn't need it, doesn't want it, and won't tolerate it. You both need step off the soap boxes and agree to disagree.

I wasn't aware that players had been appointed as interim moderators.

I don't disagree with the idea that we should have PTS access. ZO doesn't either. What I disagree with (and what I can't fathom you not disagreeing with) is the pointless creation of threads designed to stir up trouble. The OP was well aware that the PTS is going to be opened up in the near future, and being possessed of half a brain, they are also intelligent enough to know that they aren't going to change that at this very moment in time. They got a developer response, and they're still complaining, knowing full well that the complaints will do nothing. That's not a point of disagreement; it's just ridiculous.

Lazarus_Long · April 2014

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

...That's not a point of disagreement; it's just ridiculous.

So is arguing over something you can't change, like other people opinions.

Ashigaru · April 2014

Lazarus_Long wrote: »

@nerevarine1138‌ @Ashigaru‌

Just stop it. This forum doesn't need it, doesn't want it, and won't tolerate it. You both need step off the soap boxes and agree to disagree.

From your number i see you have access to the PTS, so tells us how is it

and no there is no soapbox this is something that needs to be opened to everyone and to touch base on the other person you mentioned. Wait i can't do that since my post will be edited or removed. Lets just say some like to troll posts instead of actually giving some helpful or insightful information. No names mod so no reason to edit it.

nerevarine1138 · April 2014

Lazarus_Long wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

...That's not a point of disagreement; it's just ridiculous.

So is arguing over something you can't change, like other people opinions.

This is going far afield of the topic, but that's the point of spirited debate. If people's opinions were immutable, they wouldn't be opinions, they would be facts.

ZOS_JasonI · April 2014

Hey everyone. We have closed this thread, as the discussion has veered off course. We ask that all posts on the forums be of a constructive nature. While it's okay to disagree, please be respectful and avoid personal attacks against other community members. Thanks for your understanding.