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any point for sorc pets?

Darkspecialist
like to play a sorc for questing..had skills for pet and they are in the way, always stand on the spot i need to loot a body seems like. Have a tank companion and that seems good enough.

honestly if the pets stood off a few inches and were out of the way it would be way better. Am i just wasting spots on the skill bar at this point?
  • GreenHere
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    Pets have always been a bit of a nuisance, but now that Companions are available in most content there really seems to be less good justifications for running them than ever.

    Aside from minor benefits (like Passives and such) the Pets give, the only really good justification for running them is if you're interested in PvP or Solo Arenas -- keeping your build intact across different activities generally makes you more familiar and thus more skilled with it, and Companions can't follow you into those activities.

    But on the whole, Pets are a pain (for the user, AND for the people around you who have to suffer their unavoidable presence) so I'd definitely encourage you to dump them ASAP if you're inclined to do so. There's really never been a better time to start learning to play without them!



    (But I'm also notoriously and probably overly anti-Combat-Pets, so take my opinion with a healthy dose of skepticism I suppose... I'd say just about anything to get less of them running around in the game!) ;P
    Edited by GreenHere on June 4, 2021 1:37PM
  • FrancisCrawford
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    If @DarcyMardin and I are going to duo a dungeon that will be challenging for us, my first instinct is to bring a sorcerer with a Twilight Matriarch. That's the most reliable heal in the game. The Atronach is also a great ultimate for boss fights.

    But otherwise I've scaled way back on my pet use. None of my newer builds feature Volatile Familiar. I don't even consider Daedric Prey any more.
  • GreenHere
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    If @DarcyMardin and I are going to duo a dungeon that will be challenging for us, my first instinct is to bring a sorcerer with a Twilight Matriarch. That's the most reliable heal in the game. The Atronach is also a great ultimate for boss fights.

    But otherwise I've scaled way back on my pet use. None of my newer builds feature Volatile Familiar. I don't even consider Daedric Prey any more.

    @FrancisCrawford may I ask?:

    As someone who's familiar with utilizing the Twilight heal on the regular, how do you feel Companion healing compares? Do you have experience in using them in a similar fashion yet? (As in, do you think they'd make viable replacements?) Or have you been kitting them out to be more complimentary to your Sorc Pet builds?


    (I know this is a bit off-topic, but figured it might be relevant to the OP. Forgive me if this is unwanted chatter!)
  • Amottica
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    I have not been playing ESO as long as most of you, but I have not had issues with my pets being in the way. Now the new companion I have seems to always step right in front of me when I stop moving and is directly in the way of many convos, grappling points, and other interactives. I had wondered why they made the tracking for companions this way.
  • GreenHere
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    Amottica wrote: »
    I have not been playing ESO as long as most of you, but I have not had issues with my pets being in the way. Now the new companion I have seems to always step right in front of me when I stop moving and is directly in the way of many convos, grappling points, and other interactives. I had wondered why they made the tracking for companions this way.

    I've found that it also has a lot to do with your Camera settings. If you play on a more zoomed-out, wide FOV setting then your pets hanging back can put them right in your field of vision pretty often (which also blocks Interact prompts a lot), but if you're more tight and zoomed-in they kind of need to get all up in your business before it's a problem.

    It'd be nice if there were different ways to work around it, but for people like me Pets are hard to deal with largely because the camera settings I'm comfortable with put the Pets RIGHT IN MY FACE all the time, haha. Whereas I've had relatively few issues with Bastian blocking me from stuff so far. He occasionally will start a conversation with me when I'm intending to loot a corpse or whatever, but it comes nowhere close to the annoyance of Twilight wings flapping in my face constantly.

    As with most such things, though, Your Mileage May Vary. :P



    @Darkspecialist , do you have any "problems" with Pets vs Companions? If your thread here is motivated by annoyances such as this, it might be worth trying to fiddle with Camera settings a bit!
  • FrancisCrawford
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    GreenHere wrote: »
    If @DarcyMardin and I are going to duo a dungeon that will be challenging for us, my first instinct is to bring a sorcerer with a Twilight Matriarch. That's the most reliable heal in the game. The Atronach is also a great ultimate for boss fights.

    But otherwise I've scaled way back on my pet use. None of my newer builds feature Volatile Familiar. I don't even consider Daedric Prey any more.

    @FrancisCrawford may I ask?:

    As someone who's familiar with utilizing the Twilight heal on the regular, how do you feel Companion healing compares? Do you have experience in using them in a similar fashion yet? (As in, do you think they'd make viable replacements?) Or have you been kitting them out to be more complimentary to your Sorc Pet builds?


    (I know this is a bit off-topic, but figured it might be relevant to the OP. Forgive me if this is unwanted chatter!)

    My Companion isn't nearly advanced enough for me to have a serious chance at making that comparison. Also, it doesn't have to be an either/or. You want a baseline of healing/second, which can come in various ways, such as pure HoTs or heal-on-damage effects or even a damage shield that's steadily in the rotation. Then you want on-demand healing too. Characters skills will always be more reliable for that than companions, because companions have cooldowns.

    There are a lot of cases where I don't worry enough to insist on having the most reliable possible immediate heals. But in the cases where I do worry enough to want them, then the Twilight Matriarch is great.
  • Red_Feather
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    Pets and companions always get in the way of targeting objects and npcs and enemies.

    It gets worse with the new things added and no design changes to alleviate the issue. It's kind of surprising.
  • tenryuta
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    theyre passive dots with benefits, monkeys aoe is kinda effective, and harpy is either double duty heal/low dot, or normal with hp>50% amp, plus curse buff if you use the pet morph.

    i dont know what other people are doing to not be able to hit mobs while theyre active, but they are useful.. for us lazier folk
  • Starlight_Whisper
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    Bastain is what I wish clanfear was
    Edited by Starlight_Whisper on June 4, 2021 7:43PM
  • Starlight_Whisper
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    Scamp - dps
    Twilight- Healer
    Bastain - tank

    perfect dream team
    Edited by Starlight_Whisper on June 4, 2021 7:44PM
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