Icy_Nelyan wrote: »

Actually there Is imbued weapon magicka morph, It Is a bit underpowered in comparison to other spammables (waaaaaay underpowered), I Also understand Is somewhat hard top use because It relies on light Attack weaving and in pvp Is a Nightmare (I'm actually use It as spammables in pvp so I know all the problema about that skill) but still Is a spammables.

But I really would like to have at leaat One common to all classes skill line, like a weapon magicka based skill line with melee skills; i actually run a melee DK magicka with a greatsword or dual swords and I would like to have more usefull melee skills.

Yeah, I didn’t include Elemental Weapon because the animation is soo long, not really viable as, say, vamp’s Eviscerate or magnb’s Concealed Weapon.

i like arterial burst, but it doesn't work on magden very well unless you turtle, which is harder to do now. otherwise we have no directly applied snare to make it work, i think that's the biggest problem. if you don't have a direct snare on a mag build it's hard to make it work.

Xvorg wrote: »

each class has its own melee magicka spammable as far as I remember

On the other hand stamina has little options for stamina ranged spammable outside bow...[/quote]

Oh? Could you tell me the melee magicka spammable for the sorcerer class? And, yes. Ranged stamina spammables likely suffer much in the same respect.

Syrpynt wrote: »

Bosco916 wrote: »

Oh? Could you tell me the melee magicka spammable for the sorcerer class? And, yes. Ranged stamina spammables likely suffer much in the same respect.

I'd say it's the Overload Ultimate (heavy attack specifically). Sure it's not magicka, or stamina--but ultimate. But Magicka and ultimate are both depletable resources that need to be recharged. You can just use your Sith powers on ememies until your ult is gone from 500 Ult if you wanted! That's the "ultimate" spammable move (;

Ranged Spammables are Snipe (single target) Scatter Shot (multi), Silver shards (multi), and Psijic "Crushing Weapon" ability applied to a bow (single), and DW Shrouded daggers (single or multiple still effective).

Ranged Class Stamina Abilities:

Wardens have cliffracer.
Necromancers have venom skull.
Dragon Knights have Stone Giant (rock throwing)
Templars have Binding Javelin (would be super annoying though with that sound effect lol)
Sorcerers have Bound Armaments that can be used with a bow.
Nightblades have no ranged+"spammable" stamina ability. I don't think Relentless focus counts since it takes 5 LA's to trigger the morph.

Binding Javelin is more of a CC skill than a spammable. The range is too short (22m) and the damage not high enough to function as a spammable.

Vampire got one and some people were absolutely livid about it. While I agree with your idea to add more, people keep complaining about how weak and squishy mages are in melee range (Which as a magDK I laugh at) so I don't know how much support this would gain.

Bosco916 wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

each class has its own melee magicka spammable as far as I remember

On the other hand stamina has little options for stamina ranged spammable outside bow...

Oh? Could you tell me the melee magicka spammable for the sorcerer class? And, yes. Ranged stamina spammables likely suffer much in the same respect.[/quote]

My bad, sorc has no melee magicka spammable, but that's a design decision that I've been seeing since 2014 (or even before that)

Anyway, I think it's somehow balanced between magicka having more ranged attacks and stam having more melee attacks.

Xvorg wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

Vampire got one and some people were absolutely livid about it. While I agree with your idea to add more, people keep complaining about how weak and squishy mages are in melee range (Which as a magDK I laugh at) so I don't know how much support this would gain.

Actually I've seen AND used S/B, 2H and DW Magsorcs with elemental weapon. Though it is not a game changing skill, it can be used. With some luck you can proc frags while weaving ele weapon, to apply good ol' "frag to the nose"

Indeed, although the passives are not as in favor of using said weapons. I am curious how dual daggers with Elemental Weapon would go with the crit boosts.

Spurius_Lucilius wrote: »

Many Magicka classes don’t have the mobility to use melee spammable effectively. If there were more melee mag spammable, we need to have more magicka gap closer options.

True, with my magDK I use and abuse chain and mostly I wait for a good placed stun tovstart weaving ele weapon, if You have a way to slow down the enemy gap closers are not necessary but this means You have to rely on poisons for a good chance to slow down people. Ele weapon Is decent as spammable but in pvp Is a pain in melee because of the animation mostly, but if You manage to "PIN down" your enemy then You can melt him.

Gap closers are very useful but with lag, desync, few slows at your disposal, so many way to remove them and Speed skills, Also with a gap closers Isn't so Easy to strike 3/4 Times in a row with ele weapon... Without taking in account the damage of that skill... That's why gap closers are Indeed usefull but mostly You want ti wait a good hard cc long enough to score some real good damage, otherwise You want to use a totally different strategy like to Say: dot, dot, ranged spammable, Meteor or whatever ti stun and damage, get close and melee spammable (with possibily a delayed burst).