Tips for final stages of vet Vateshran Hollows final boss

Rescorla_ESO · June 2021

I've been banging my head trying to beat veteran Vateshran Hollows final boss for 2 weeks now. I have a magsorc and stamplar both on the final boss fight. I do the three portals in blue, green, red order. I can get to the third portal but I end up dying either in the portal or shortly after leaving for the final phase of killing the boss. I know the flameshapers need to be interrupted or their channeled attack will kill you. By the time you enter the third portal there is nonstop AOE on the ground from the boss, the chillrend and the minotaur so I am constantly moving. At that point it seems there is zero margin for error and I always seem to screw up during the chaos.

Any tips are appreciated.

Rugby_hook · June 2021

The aoes never bother me that much and it's the flameshapers that get me if I lose focus, but one thing I could think of would be if the aoes make it worse than the flameshapers do for you, you could try changing the order of portals to reduce the amount of time you didn't with the aoe. You could try saving the portal you can complete the fastest for the last one you do, so as to keep boss as close to execute as possible for when you have to deal with all three mechanics.

jaws343 · June 2021

Can't speak to stamplar but for mag sorc I have experience in there.

Double bar shield if you don't already. Needing the shield and needing to bar swap to use it is not useful.
Lightning staff and Maelstrom destro. Group the adds and heavy attack.
Pale order and Crit Surge. These two combined is massive amounts of healing.
Crushing Shock is a must for ranged interrupt.
You can run streak to bypass the tether mechanic, but I really only found that necessary to get the achievement, not really to complete the fight.
Destro ult is your friend.

I think your portal order is fine. The last portal you want to do is the flameshaper one. You want to have them as little as possible in the fight.

The way I usually do this fight is that I immediately aggro all of the colossus, drag them to the boss, lay down aoe's drop destro ult and then kite them in a tight circle around the boss with lightning heavy attacks. This burns all of the colossus down immediately at the start of the fight.

When I go into the portals, I do not use my ultimate for the first two portals. The mini bosses are easy there and it is more beneficial to save the ult for the main boss and adds. After leaving the portal, attack the boss and wait for the tether. Kill the tether add, and then aggro all of the collosus again. Drag to boss, and drop destro ult on them. Same thing, kite in a tight circle.

In the last portal, if I have a destro I drop it once I have grouped the miniboss and the flameshaper. But it can also be useful to hold off on using it as well. When you leave the portal, and the tether starts, if you have it drop the destro between the boss and a tether add, as well as aoes, and then focus on stopping the flameshapers. If done right the aoe's will burn the tether while you interrupt the flameshapers.

Once the first tether is done, it is just a matter of circling the boss and keeping everything group on top of each other as much as possible. If you keep moving and keep heavy attacks and AOEs on the boss you will burn everything down.

Xuhora · June 2021

first thing that comes to my mind is that the order of the three portals is different from mag to stam (if you want to maximize)
My last was 2 weeks after markarth release (got all achievements) so i dont remember exactly, but you should be able to google that fairly quickly.
IIRC for mag its green blue red and for stam its blue red green. that will make the final bossfight on both your characters easier, since you get way more usefull orbs.

there are two fundamentaly different ways for the last boss:
option 1: save your ultimates for the portalphase, so she wont regenerate as much health.
Option 2: save your ultimates for the non portalpahse, so you can nuke her before the line-ghost-guys come close.

either way you may want to have a disrupt (daggers, javelin for templar, crushing shock for sorc) to interrupt flameguy.

my take was allways: save ult for when you are back up and burst her down as soon as humanly possible while the ring of the pale order helps you survive due to high dmg.

Rescorla_ESO · June 2021

Xuhora wrote: »

first thing that comes to my mind is that the order of the three portals is different from mag to stam (if you want to maximize)
My last was 2 weeks after markarth release (got all achievements) so i dont remember exactly, but you should be able to google that fairly quickly.
IIRC for mag its green blue red and for stam its blue red green. that will make the final bossfight on both your characters easier, since you get way more usefull orbs.

To clarify, I am referring to the 3 portals you enter on the final boss fight when she gets down to 10% health.

Everest_Lionheart · June 2021

I always have trouble after 3rd portal as well. Comes down to RNG for me. Keep in mind the flame shaper is also on a timer so if you you get through that initial ring time it so that you kill the flame shaper a little bit before the next ring so she doesn’t get in the way or spawn outside the ring while you are trying to break out. To do this you may have to interrupt a few times and be careful not to finish it off or it will spawn with the same timing relative to the ring.

The AOE’s can be healed and shielded through. The more difficult issue is pushing the boss too hard and spawning a colossus in the ring phase because the cone attack from him plus the AOE is almost certain death. You can commit to full burn and try to race the final ring but you better tab target the boss and rain down holy hell or you may get wrecked by the ring. The key to that strategy is in the timing of the flame shaper death. This one you can kill during the ring phase or right after so you can commit to the boss. The final 20% colossus you can ignore just don’t get cleaved by it.

jaws343 · June 2021

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

I always have trouble after 3rd portal as well. Comes down to RNG for me. Keep in mind the flame shaper is also on a timer so if you you get through that initial ring time it so that you kill the flame shaper a little bit before the next ring so she doesn’t get in the way or spawn outside the ring while you are trying to break out. To do this you may have to interrupt a few times and be careful not to finish it off or it will spawn with the same timing relative to the ring.

The AOE’s can be healed and shielded through. The more difficult issue is pushing the boss too hard and spawning a colossus in the ring phase because the cone attack from him plus the AOE is almost certain death. You can commit to full burn and try to race the final ring but you better tab target the boss and rain down holy hell or you may get wrecked by the ring. The key to that strategy is in the timing of the flame shaper death. This one you can kill during the ring phase or right after so you can commit to the boss. The final 20% colossus you can ignore just don’t get cleaved by it.

This is why I personally burn all of the colossus immediately. I believe they only respawn on the edges if the health of the boss raises past certain thresholds. So if you can burn the portals quickly you won't have as many to deal with. But also, if you have a few on the outside edge, and a destro ult, it is far easier to just aggro them all and burn them at once, rather than wait for them to trigger one at a time and have to deal with them individually over the course of the fight. If you take them out right away, then the rest of the fight is clear until the next portal phase.

Shantu · June 2021

I've cleared vVH so many times farming for those damned daggers I could do it in my sleep. For a MagSorc, here are my tactics.

1. You must have constant heals and resistances running. Keep Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, and Hardened Ward up at all times.
2. You must constantly be doing damage. Depending on your build, with either Critical Surge or the Pale Order Ring, damage is what also heals you.The moment you stop doing damage you dramatically increase your odds of dying.
3. Use a lightning staff for heavy attack damage to proc the AOE damage from the Tri-Focus passive. Heavy attack weaving is also an excellent way to keep your defensive skills up while doing constant damage.
4. Stay out of ground AOE's. If caught, roll dodge quickly out of them.
5. Concentrate on the adds. The boss does minimal damage. If you can, try to line up your AOE's to damage both the boss and adds. Save the portal with the flame shapers for last so you spend minimal time dealing with them.
6. Save your ultimate for the portals. While in the portals the boss regenerates health. The longer you spend in there the more health he'll have when your return to the main ring. The less health he has, the less time you'll spend dealing with mechanics.
7. Use Steak to get through the tether. Makes that whole mechanic easy. Just make sure you don't leave any flame shapers inside before you streak out.

Just try to stay relaxed, keep the heals and damage going, and concentrate on your priority targeting (adds always first). You'll be fine.

Rexy18 · June 2021

Ring of the Pale Order lets you stand in all AoEs you like

Everest_Lionheart · June 2021

jaws343 wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

I always have trouble after 3rd portal as well. Comes down to RNG for me. Keep in mind the flame shaper is also on a timer so if you you get through that initial ring time it so that you kill the flame shaper a little bit before the next ring so she doesn’t get in the way or spawn outside the ring while you are trying to break out. To do this you may have to interrupt a few times and be careful not to finish it off or it will spawn with the same timing relative to the ring.

The AOE’s can be healed and shielded through. The more difficult issue is pushing the boss too hard and spawning a colossus in the ring phase because the cone attack from him plus the AOE is almost certain death. You can commit to full burn and try to race the final ring but you better tab target the boss and rain down holy hell or you may get wrecked by the ring. The key to that strategy is in the timing of the flame shaper death. This one you can kill during the ring phase or right after so you can commit to the boss. The final 20% colossus you can ignore just don’t get cleaved by it.

This is why I personally burn all of the colossus immediately. I believe they only respawn on the edges if the health of the boss raises past certain thresholds. So if you can burn the portals quickly you won't have as many to deal with. But also, if you have a few on the outside edge, and a destro ult, it is far easier to just aggro them all and burn them at once, rather than wait for them to trigger one at a time and have to deal with them individually over the course of the fight. If you take them out right away, then the rest of the fight is clear until the next portal phase.

I run vVH on stam because I like the challenge. So for me I can gather up the colossus 2 at a time and deal with them. I’m good about getting out of the portals now with about 43-48% health on the main boss. 43 is borderline because sometimes she does a mech when I come out and it gives me time to damage her but I can expect a colossus plus the ring at the same time when it happens. Sometimes it also spawns the adds and that makes for a hard time. Closer to 48 gives me the buffer I need to put dots on the boss, break the ring, aggro the second colossus and dps them both down before the next ring. After 3rd portal though I prefer to not aggro the second colossus myself and DPS race the boss during the second ring phase. This depends on the flame spinner though and how I’ve dealt with it beforehand.

Skazur · June 2021

Done this a few months ago with the most relaxing build I know for soloarenas: petsorc.

Key mechanics: Ring of the Pale Order and somewhat about 35k health/40k mag. Nonstop heavy attacks with an lightning staff. After every attack pop ward to keep you and the pets alive. Use streak to cheese the wall. Petsorcs arent that massive DPS'ers but its enough to outlast mobs/boss - no need to hectic. Thanks to shielding you'll stay alive even if something hits you. Sometimes the mobs stack up -> dest ulti.

The other slots beside the needed ones are basically personal preferences. I like to throw some dots in the mix to fasten things up (like flamecallers).

And save the portal you can clear the fastest for last. The other two are uninteresting. Yes, boss heals up. But its a pure mechanical fight.

Rescorla_ESO · June 2021

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

The more difficult issue is pushing the boss too hard and spawning a colossus in the ring phase because the cone attack from him plus the AOE is almost certain death.

This is my #1 cause of death on my stamplar. My DPS is good enough to easily kill the shade but if a colossus is active when ring phase starts my chances of dying increase significantly. I am burning down the boss as fast as possible so maybe I need to throttle down and take it slower. Are there specific percentages of the boss's health where she calls the ring and the colossus or is it RNG?

Everest_Lionheart · June 2021

Rescorla_ESO wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

The more difficult issue is pushing the boss too hard and spawning a colossus in the ring phase because the cone attack from him plus the AOE is almost certain death.

This is my #1 cause of death on my stamplar. My DPS is good enough to easily kill the shade but if a colossus is active when ring phase starts my chances of dying increase significantly. I am burning down the boss as fast as possible so maybe I need to throttle down and take it slower. Are there specific percentages of the boss's health where she calls the ring and the colossus or is it RNG?

Every 20% colossus. Also even if you activate one early she will still call one each 20% until they are all gone.

Rescorla_ESO · June 2021

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

Rescorla_ESO wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

The more difficult issue is pushing the boss too hard and spawning a colossus in the ring phase because the cone attack from him plus the AOE is almost certain death.

This is my #1 cause of death on my stamplar. My DPS is good enough to easily kill the shade but if a colossus is active when ring phase starts my chances of dying increase significantly. I am burning down the boss as fast as possible so maybe I need to throttle down and take it slower. Are there specific percentages of the boss's health where she calls the ring and the colossus or is it RNG?

Every 20% colossus. Also even if you activate one early she will still call one each 20% until they are all gone.

Thanks. Are the rings on a set timer or some other trigger? I get that impression the ring is on a set timer when she summons a colossus shortly followed by the ring appearing.

IneedaDollar · June 2021

Tbh. BURN
With damage you skip almost everything at last boss.
If you are hitting 80k+ on the dummy it should be easy to do.
You can also watch Ambitions run on yt to get an idea how to play it correctly.