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Why there is even a discussion about the number of queues? Let's rethink the interface now.

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divnyi
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People say that splitting BG queues is bad because playerbase will split between them, resulting in the higher waiting times.
OK, but why we expose number of queues at all?

What player wants is constraints to the game types they want or don't want to play.

Would you like to connect to soloQ games?
Would you like to connect to groupQ games?

Would you like to connect to deathmatch games?
Would you like to connect to domination games?
Would you like to connect to crazy king games?
Would you like to connect to relic games?
Would you like to connect to chaosball games?

Would you like to connect to 1vs1 games?
Would you like to connect to 2vs2 games?
Would you like to connect to 3vs3 games?
Would you like to connect to 4vs4vs4 games?

All of these can be answered "Yes/No", so it is checkboxes.

Behind the scenes player is added to every queue that fits description, and once queue is complete, all the players are removed from all other queues.

^ Algorithm is there.
Hire someone who knows how to code and implement it without breaking the game for 2 years, and all the BG PvP community will be happy.
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  • VaranisArano
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    Group Queue + Chaosball + 4v4v4 achievement hunters be like "Man, why is my queue taking an hour?"
    Edited by VaranisArano on June 2, 2021 9:40PM
  • MurderMostFoul
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    divnyi wrote: »
    People say that splitting BG queues is bad because playerbase will split between them, resulting in the higher waiting times.
    OK, but why we expose number of queues at all?

    What player wants is constraints to the game types they want or don't want to play.

    Would you like to connect to soloQ games?
    Would you like to connect to groupQ games?

    Would you like to connect to deathmatch games?
    Would you like to connect to domination games?
    Would you like to connect to crazy king games?
    Would you like to connect to relic games?
    Would you like to connect to chaosball games?

    Would you like to connect to 1vs1 games?
    Would you like to connect to 2vs2 games?
    Would you like to connect to 3vs3 games?
    Would you like to connect to 4vs4vs4 games?

    All of these can be answered "Yes/No", so it is checkboxes.

    Behind the scenes player is added to every queue that fits description, and once queue is complete, all the players are removed from all other queues.

    ^ Algorithm is there.
    Hire someone who knows how to code and implement it without breaking the game for 2 years, and all the BG PvP community will be happy.

    Whether or not you want to call them queues, the scheme you've proposed still permits an overwhelming number of mutually exclusive matchmaking preferences. That mutual exclusivity is what would ramp up matchmaking times. I would still be in support of additional matchmaking options that allow players to play Deathmatch if they so choose, but there is a point at which the number of options would begin to hinder the system's ability to create matches.
    “There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”
  • divnyi
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    MurderMostFoul wrote: »
    That mutual exclusivity is what would ramp up matchmaking times.

    No, it won't. You want any queue fast? Select every checkbox.
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  • MurderMostFoul
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    divnyi wrote: »
    MurderMostFoul wrote: »
    That mutual exclusivity is what would ramp up matchmaking times.

    No, it won't. You want any queue fast? Select every checkbox.

    But what about the other 11 players who you need to get matched with? If your system allows reasonable queue times only when people don't actually use its functionality, what's the point? Either the vast majority of people would have to ignore this functionality, or enough people would utilize it and create overly extended queue times resulting from the number of mutually exclusive conditions selected.
    Edited by MurderMostFoul on June 2, 2021 8:05PM
    “There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”
  • divnyi
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    MurderMostFoul wrote: »
    But what about the other 11 players who you need to get matched with?

    If you insist on one game mode, it means it has more players currently than any other mode. So ppl who select all ticks will pop your queue first.
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  • gariondavey
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    I think group queue dm and solo queue random is much simpler and is pretty much what everyone wants. And in just 2 queues.
    PC NA @gariondavey, BG, IC & Cyrodiil Focused Since October 2017 Stamplar (main), Magplar, Magsorc, Stamsorc, StamDK, MagDK, Stamblade, Magblade, Magden, Stamden
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