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RNG

regime211
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so I love how this game has "Random RNG" let me explain further I have started out on PC a few weeks back, and hit CP a week or two ago and now finally I can have some survivability in vet dungeons. So I did COA to get my skoria helmet. Which is the only monster helmet I currently own until today when I got a maw of infernal helmet, now as I used up 9 undaunted keys to get the shoulder for it, I find it funny it gave me EVERY other shoulder piece of a monster set that I did NOT have the helmet to! Is this really RNG? Or does some calculation go up based off of what you have in your inventory to decrease your odds? Lol I just find this simply hilarious as to how it's random RNG at this point. I should of tried to use 5 keys to unlock that specific shoulder piece however I did not have 5 keys to use. Just thought I would share this "RNG" LOL
  • Nestor
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    With RNG, there is no middle ground. You are either happy or pissed off.

    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • Stanx
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    It's totally random but I feel your pain.

    Once got the piece I needed on first try (Grothdarr divines medium). Gave me some false optimism about drop rates. Then it took me about 30 keys to get one Selene drop in a bad trait. This was when they used chests but imagine RNG works the same.
    Edited by Stanx on May 15, 2020 11:43PM
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Nestor wrote: »
    With RNG, there is no middle ground. You are either happy or pissed off.

    Last two undaunted store purchases were exactly the right shoulder type and weight.

    Still on 70+ Maelstrom runs without a Winterborn Ice Staff.
  • Lady_Linux
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    regime211 wrote: »
    so I love how this game has "Random RNG" let me explain further I have started out on PC a few weeks back, and hit CP a week or two ago and now finally I can have some survivability in vet dungeons. So I did COA to get my skoria helmet. Which is the only monster helmet I currently own until today when I got a maw of infernal helmet, now as I used up 9 undaunted keys to get the shoulder for it, I find it funny it gave me EVERY other shoulder piece of a monster set that I did NOT have the helmet to! Is this really RNG? Or does some calculation go up based off of what you have in your inventory to decrease your odds? Lol I just find this simply hilarious as to how it's random RNG at this point. I should of tried to use 5 keys to unlock that specific shoulder piece however I did not have 5 keys to use. Just thought I would share this "RNG" LOL


    You got 6 stars on the forums and have only been playing a couple of weeks?
    I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.

    BTW, I use arch too
  • regime211
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    regime211 wrote: »
    so I love how this game has "Random RNG" let me explain further I have started out on PC a few weeks back, and hit CP a week or two ago and now finally I can have some survivability in vet dungeons. So I did COA to get my skoria helmet. Which is the only monster helmet I currently own until today when I got a maw of infernal helmet, now as I used up 9 undaunted keys to get the shoulder for it, I find it funny it gave me EVERY other shoulder piece of a monster set that I did NOT have the helmet to! Is this really RNG? Or does some calculation go up based off of what you have in your inventory to decrease your odds? Lol I just find this simply hilarious as to how it's random RNG at this point. I should of tried to use 5 keys to unlock that specific shoulder piece however I did not have 5 keys to use. Just thought I would share this "RNG" LOL


    You got 6 stars on the forums and have only been playing a couple of weeks?

    Out of everything I wrote this is the only thing you took away from it? Lol
  • MattT1988
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    regime211 wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    regime211 wrote: »
    so I love how this game has "Random RNG" let me explain further I have started out on PC a few weeks back, and hit CP a week or two ago and now finally I can have some survivability in vet dungeons. So I did COA to get my skoria helmet. Which is the only monster helmet I currently own until today when I got a maw of infernal helmet, now as I used up 9 undaunted keys to get the shoulder for it, I find it funny it gave me EVERY other shoulder piece of a monster set that I did NOT have the helmet to! Is this really RNG? Or does some calculation go up based off of what you have in your inventory to decrease your odds? Lol I just find this simply hilarious as to how it's random RNG at this point. I should of tried to use 5 keys to unlock that specific shoulder piece however I did not have 5 keys to use. Just thought I would share this "RNG" LOL


    You got 6 stars on the forums and have only been playing a couple of weeks?

    Out of everything I wrote this is the only thing you took away from it? Lol

    It’s a fair point though.
  • Universe
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    There should be a better solution than RNG.
    I doubt it very much that RNG is the best solution for item drops.
    Though I guess RNG will always be around in ESO.
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    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • bmnoble
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    MattT1988 wrote: »
    regime211 wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    regime211 wrote: »
    so I love how this game has "Random RNG" let me explain further I have started out on PC a few weeks back, and hit CP a week or two ago and now finally I can have some survivability in vet dungeons. So I did COA to get my skoria helmet. Which is the only monster helmet I currently own until today when I got a maw of infernal helmet, now as I used up 9 undaunted keys to get the shoulder for it, I find it funny it gave me EVERY other shoulder piece of a monster set that I did NOT have the helmet to! Is this really RNG? Or does some calculation go up based off of what you have in your inventory to decrease your odds? Lol I just find this simply hilarious as to how it's random RNG at this point. I should of tried to use 5 keys to unlock that specific shoulder piece however I did not have 5 keys to use. Just thought I would share this "RNG" LOL


    You got 6 stars on the forums and have only been playing a couple of weeks?

    Out of everything I wrote this is the only thing you took away from it? Lol

    It’s a fair point though.

    They said started out on PC, implying they have been on console until now.
  • bearbelly
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »

    You got 6 stars on the forums and have only been playing a couple of weeks?
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    It’s a fair point though.

    Two high-star forum peeps who should know that he was a long-time console player before starting on PC.
  • gatekeeper13
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    No way RNG is random in ESO. Algorithm most of the time drops trash so that you keep on farming.

    e.g, Burning Spellweave Inferno staff is one of the most sought after staves in the game. And guess what? Drop rates are ridiculously low.
  • CassandraGemini
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    No way RNG is random in ESO. Algorithm most of the time drops trash so that you keep on farming.

    e.g, Burning Spellweave Inferno staff is one of the most sought after staves in the game. And guess what? Drop rates are ridiculously low.

    Yeah, lately I've begun to doubt that, too. It's not quite the same but remember that two times in the last few months/weeks the Golden had the exact monster helmets that were due for a nerf, such as Iceheart (I don't quite recall the other one, since it was something that I personally don't use, but I know that I saw people in the weekly "What does the Golden sell?" thread being ticked off about it).
    RNG, as the name says, should be completely random, but sometimes there seem to be too many "coincidences" that seem to imply otherwise. Maybe they're really nothing but coincidences, but... you never know.
    This poor little Bosmer stealth passive had passionate friends and a big loving family!

  • Glurin
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    You probably just neglected to make the proper offerings to the RNG gods. I don't know what they are, but in order to find that out you're going to need a pair of dice, a deck of cards, three roulette wheels and a camel born on a Tuesday.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."
  • bearbelly
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    Glurin wrote: »
    You probably just neglected to make the proper offerings to the RNG gods. I don't know what they are, but in order to find that out you're going to need a pair of dice, a deck of cards, three roulette wheels and a camel born on a Tuesday.

    Wednesday.
    Because Wednesday is hump day. You don't want a camel with no hump.
  • Lady_Linux
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »

    You got 6 stars on the forums and have only been playing a couple of weeks?
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    It’s a fair point though.

    Two high-star forum peeps who should know that he was a long-time console player before starting on PC.

    I consider it a good day when i can remember my own name. Cheers.
    I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.

    BTW, I use arch too
  • MattT1988
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    bmnoble wrote: »
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    regime211 wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    regime211 wrote: »
    so I love how this game has "Random RNG" let me explain further I have started out on PC a few weeks back, and hit CP a week or two ago and now finally I can have some survivability in vet dungeons. So I did COA to get my skoria helmet. Which is the only monster helmet I currently own until today when I got a maw of infernal helmet, now as I used up 9 undaunted keys to get the shoulder for it, I find it funny it gave me EVERY other shoulder piece of a monster set that I did NOT have the helmet to! Is this really RNG? Or does some calculation go up based off of what you have in your inventory to decrease your odds? Lol I just find this simply hilarious as to how it's random RNG at this point. I should of tried to use 5 keys to unlock that specific shoulder piece however I did not have 5 keys to use. Just thought I would share this "RNG" LOL


    You got 6 stars on the forums and have only been playing a couple of weeks?

    Out of everything I wrote this is the only thing you took away from it? Lol

    It’s a fair point though.

    They said started out on PC, implying they have been on console until now.

    Fair enough.
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Lady_Linux wrote: »

    You got 6 stars on the forums and have only been playing a couple of weeks?
    MattT1988 wrote: »
    It’s a fair point though.

    Two high-star forum peeps who should know that he was a long-time console player before starting on PC.

    I don’t know the guy.
  • MrGhosty
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    They just need to put specific set items in an undaunted vendor with a selection that changes weekly the same time as the Golden in PvP. Not a perfect solution, but it would alleviate the grind somewhat and keep dungeons relevant.
    "It is a time of strife and unrest. Armies of revenants and dark spirits manifest in every corner of Tamriel. Winters grow colder and crops fail. Mystics are plagued by nightmares and portents of doom."
  • regime211
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    It's just very questionable that they're saying it's all RNG based. Yet literally It gave me every other shoulder piece for a monster helmet i did not have. But for the ones I do have it decided to not even drop them.
  • newtinmpls
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    So I've been farming Arx Corinium on and off, and a few weeks ago I finally finished my stave collection.

    Now, now that I don't need them.

    Got a Medusa resto staff off a trash mob
    As I was leaving checked out that "last chest" and got a Medusa Ice staff

    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • kargen27
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    Once long long ago I got extremely lucky over the course of about an hour. Got a weapon I wanted with the trait I wanted found a rare recipe in an urn and something else. I came here and gloated in the forums and didn't get anything but trash after that for what I thought was an exceptionally long period of time.

    Now I keep my good luck to myself so as not to draw the attention of the deities that control the ebb and flow of RNG.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • Orion_89
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    regime211 wrote: »
    Is this really RNG? Or does some calculation go up based off of what you have in your inventory to decrease your odds?

    It's 100% random. One time I get exactly the shoulder I wanted at the first try, and another it took me to farm it even through pieces I already have.
  • Lephrel
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    Nestor wrote: »
    With RNG, there is no middle ground. You are either happy or pissed off.

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  • regime211
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    regime211 wrote: »
    so I love how this game has "Random RNG" let me explain further I have started out on PC a few weeks back, and hit CP a week or two ago and now finally I can have some survivability in vet dungeons. So I did COA to get my skoria helmet. Which is the only monster helmet I currently own until today when I got a maw of infernal helmet, now as I used up 9 undaunted keys to get the shoulder for it, I find it funny it gave me EVERY other shoulder piece of a monster set that I did NOT have the helmet to! Is this really RNG? Or does some calculation go up based off of what you have in your inventory to decrease your odds? Lol I just find this simply hilarious as to how it's random RNG at this point. I should of tried to use 5 keys to unlock that specific shoulder piece however I did not have 5 keys to use. Just thought I would share this "RNG" LOL


    You got 6 stars on the forums and have only been playing a couple of weeks?

    I'm a console transfer.
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