I like magicka Templar for this because of Puncturing Sweeps, but all classes can do it if you set them up with the appropriate AoE skills.

DontTread wrote: »

I want to create a class where I can aoe down large groups of mobs fast to grind CP. What class has the best aoe for CP grinding?

Do a search for Hack the Minotaur CP Grind build and gain enlightenment.

Any class can, mag prob better with destro skills. Cleave is good for tougher content though.

If I'm wanting to burn big piles of mobs down though, I always go to my magtemp. You can't go wrong with jabs.

Mythreindeer wrote: »

Do a search for Hack the Minotaur CP Grind build and gain enlightenment.

This! Look up his "Grind God Builds" category; they are super fun!

Either mDK (spam Deep Wheeze) or Sorc (cast Endless Fury once then spam Elemental Ring). Warden Shalks also do good job.

Templar? I always lv with dolmen in Alikr. Maybe slightly slower but totally relaxed. You can eat or make phonecalls while doing it this way... If i remember correct my pure lv time from 1-50 was 6h (with all buffs).

im having a hilarious setup on my stamplar. the build im running - Master weapon - Sword Singer - dead water - Meteor with fighter guild skill slotteded... its basically non stop Ult spam xD

MagBlade is by far the best option.

Combine the suggestions above. Path, Wall, Meteor backbar. Sap, Harvest and any 4 Assassination abilities frontbar.

With deadwaters guile and any damage oriented set on the body, you drop a meteor on every trashpull (6+ enemies).

Weighing one against the other is tricky.

With Shooting Star you need to stack only five enemies on the initial hit. You can even get away with four if you cast sap, chuck a potion and/or refresh the light attack ulti gen buff to run a bit longer, if the potion is still on cooldown.

With Lightning Rage, you need to stack eight to ten enemies, but you get more damage output. Meaning you can farm not just trash, but also the large double XP enemies for even more XP.

Come to think about it...
One could do everything of the above with a Stamina setup. The Ultimate morphes would be the same, of course.

You would run Dead Waters on the body, a good damage set with maces for maximising power and any two one pieces.
Penetration would be lower, but weapon damage stacks higher, increasing the burst potential or rather the base damage.
Plus, if one were to use a two handed backbar instead of the bow, you could use Stampede for higher mobility and precast Rally for easy access to Major Brutality, instead of relying on the NB class ability.

Hihi 😁 I think I know what i want to try next.

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

Come to think about it...
One could do everything of the above with a Stamina setup. The Ultimate morphes would be the same, of course.

You would run Dead Waters on the body, a good damage set with maces for maximising power and any two one pieces.
Penetration would be lower, but weapon damage stacks higher, increasing the burst potential or rather the base damage.
Plus, if one were to use a two handed backbar instead of the bow, you could use Stampede for higher mobility and precast Rally for easy access to Major Brutality, instead of relying on the NB class ability.

Hihi 😁 I think I know what i want to try next.

I just created this build without having read this post a couple nights ago on a Stam DK. With a Nord and decisive masters 2h front bar Corrosive is up on demand in Skyreach which means not having to build for penetration.

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Ahk1lleez wrote: »

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

Come to think about it...
One could do everything of the above with a Stamina setup. The Ultimate morphes would be the same, of course.

You would run Dead Waters on the body, a good damage set with maces for maximising power and any two one pieces.
Penetration would be lower, but weapon damage stacks higher, increasing the burst potential or rather the base damage.
Plus, if one were to use a two handed backbar instead of the bow, you could use Stampede for higher mobility and precast Rally for easy access to Major Brutality, instead of relying on the NB class ability.

Hihi 😁 I think I know what i want to try next.

I just created this build without having read this post a couple nights ago on a Stam DK. With a Nord and decisive masters 2h front bar Corrosive is up on demand in Skyreach which means not having to build for penetration.

I question whether that is really faster than other ultimate options. That is one of the biggest issues with a stam grind build, a lack of a good AOE ultimate. I am sure brawler + unlimated corrosive makes your darn near invinicble, but grinding is about speed not survival. I would rather die once in a while if it means killing 3 times as fast.

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

I made a seducer and Julianos training set for my magplar. I grind in Deshaan by silent mire. Rather than spend time running. Around to gather 3-4 mobs and nuke them all down I run mob to mob dropping 1 spear and 1 sweep and they all die. Most are 2-3 enemies only. Cast degen every 3rd mob for major sorcery IL front bar for major prophecy. It’s fast and effective.

Same issues with this method. I am sure that you are great on resources and damage is okay, but killing 2-3 overland enemies at a time is not going to rack up the XP.

Do either have a good grasp on XP/Hour? That is the real metric. There are BRP strats that are 90% single target that have a theoretical limit of about 9 million XP an hour during double XP. I have never quite hit that person for a full hour because you have to be pretty much perfect with spawns and resets, but north of 7 mil/hour is easy.

You're right, it isn't faster than mag builds or viable for that BRP method. Titanic cleave with full pen from corrosive does pretty well though. It's one of those breaking the monotony type of builds for when you're tired of playing mag toons.

Edit: This build can clear Skyreach in 3:30-4 minutes. Again, it's not faster than your typical mag build...but it is a suitable alternative.

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Ahk1lleez wrote: »

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

Come to think about it...
One could do everything of the above with a Stamina setup. The Ultimate morphes would be the same, of course.

You would run Dead Waters on the body, a good damage set with maces for maximising power and any two one pieces.
Penetration would be lower, but weapon damage stacks higher, increasing the burst potential or rather the base damage.
Plus, if one were to use a two handed backbar instead of the bow, you could use Stampede for higher mobility and precast Rally for easy access to Major Brutality, instead of relying on the NB class ability.

Hihi 😁 I think I know what i want to try next.

I just created this build without having read this post a couple nights ago on a Stam DK. With a Nord and decisive masters 2h front bar Corrosive is up on demand in Skyreach which means not having to build for penetration.

I question whether that is really faster than other ultimate options. That is one of the biggest issues with a stam grind build, a lack of a good AOE ultimate. I am sure brawler + unlimated corrosive makes your darn near invinicble, but grinding is about speed not survival. I would rather die once in a while if it means killing 3 times as fast.

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

I made a seducer and Julianos training set for my magplar. I grind in Deshaan by silent mire. Rather than spend time running. Around to gather 3-4 mobs and nuke them all down I run mob to mob dropping 1 spear and 1 sweep and they all die. Most are 2-3 enemies only. Cast degen every 3rd mob for major sorcery IL front bar for major prophecy. It’s fast and effective.

Same issues with this method. I am sure that you are great on resources and damage is okay, but killing 2-3 overland enemies at a time is not going to rack up the XP.

Do either have a good grasp on XP/Hour? That is the real metric. There are BRP strats that are 90% single target that have a theoretical limit of about 9 million XP an hour during double XP. I have never quite hit that person for a full hour because you have to be pretty much perfect with spawns and resets, but north of 7 mil/hour is easy.

To me it’s more than grinding pure experience. I choose the area specifically for several reasons. That area is full of heavy sacks, chests, psijic portals, rss nodes plus a doleman. It’s a one stop shop for many things. Whe you realize you have to grind all those things and your time is limited it’s an efficient and effective way to get everything you need an more.

I use the mats to upgrade equipment, sell trash items for gold, sell the MS jewely at traders from the doleman, sell any other MS gear there as well. If you run the loop a certain way you can go out and back and arrive right on time for doleman and repeat this several times over. After that clean out inventory and begin again.

This method has allowed me to remake several sets for all my toons rather than trading sets back and forth via my bank or coffers in my house so if I have to change a toon on the fly during a trial that’s all I have to do, log out and log in ready to go. 4 sets of gold MS, Medusa, Siroria, Zaan, domihaus, slimecraw, Zen’s on my DK, catalyst and MA for my Necro, 2 sets of acuity also. Stam toons both have gold Relequen, deadly, AY, VO, Briarheart, Selene, Domi and slimecraw as well.

The harder part is farming all the transmutes, thank goodness for the change a few patches ago. Which basically allows me to remake 1-2 pieces per day of whatever I want.