That would be great. Better for the players and community in a hundred ways.

But then how would they keep the hamsters on their wheels? And there are a lot of people who demand a hamster wheel. Getting our dopamine from competence/mastery and content we replay because it's fun and interesting isn't what ZOS is going for.

I'd stop playing ESO if it was class based, I like the variety in gear we can use. Yeah there is a meta but that is unavoidable regardless.

Class homogenization. It's bad.

Next time they add skills to the game, it would be better to add additional class skill lines than guild ones. I know its all about play what you want. But I can make a top tier build in pvp or pve that only has 4 class skills on it. 4 out of 12.

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Sanctum74 wrote: »

It used to be like that and pvp was great, but they decided to homogenize all the classes and push proc sets to sell dlc’s.

I need someone to explain this. I started in Summerset and the classes feel pretty distinct to me. It's just the reliance on weapon skills that make them feel the same.

It's a long sad story, but here's a little corner of it: nightblade used to have multiple class skills that provided us with major expedition under various conditions and for various lengths of time. (And before there was "major expedition" they just made us a little faster for awhile.) Warden wings for a short time provided them with major expedition for 20 seconds on a single flap.

But we got standardized. Nightblade now has a one skill that provides major expedition, for four seconds. Wardens' wings expedition was also nerfed to four seconds before they eventually got a special dispensation to have six whole seconds. Every ability that gives major expedition was brought in line with the rigid standard, and no class could have more than one, even in the case of nightblade where that mobility was a cornerstone of our class kit.

Every class must have a class-specific source of major mending. "Spammables" have N power budget, no exceptions. Crystal fragments has to lose its iconic stun, it's not in keeping with the standards for that type of ability. Sorry, no snare on ritual, wings can't reflect anymore, we're taking this away from your class because it violates the standard. Etc.

This is not even going into the extreme sameyness of the last two classes added to the game.

Class kits were deeper and more distinct before the Grand Sameification. The only thing that's improved is that stam specs have more useable class skills now, which is a good thing, although mag specs have not been compensated for their losses with another weapon option. Which is not.

Classes don;t sell DLC.

Anyone buys DLC for gear, when ZOS every couple months rework everything? Personally I don't even bother about new op mythics from Blackwood, because months later it will be nerfed to the ground.

Gear should be more about defining your playstyle and visual theme, less about meta. We have so many sets, but 90% of them are trash. I don't get it. If some overland sets can be good and popular (mother sorrow, briarheart) why don't have more? Why even bother with sets that are trash from begining?

And dont forgot you usually use weapon or guild abilities instead of class abilties

Gear gives a lot of options though. Thematically or mechanically. I like sets like Clever alchemist, Flanking something?, Eternal Hunt, etc..

The boring run off the mill "deal damage to deal X damage" can go to hell, i dont care.

New sets will always be more powerful, what would be the reason for getting the new DLC and farming the gear if you already have better sets? I personally like this more than useless new sets which means nobody runs the new content (remember Kynes Aegis?).

A good direction is that new sets are often situational instead of just giving a ton of stats to buff your overall dmg. If this trend keeps going we'll have BiS sets DPS sets for different type of fight or group composition.

For PVPers I can understand the frustration, getting killed because multiple sets proc at the same time is just lame.

This game (specially pvp) is not for players and skills. Its for grind-nolife-nerds I got my pvp gear for stamplar back in 2014 for Cyro and didnt change it for about 8 years and not going to start. Its still good for 1x1 in BG but anyway those "proc losers" will take you down coz ZOS let them do it. Just relax and dont give a hood about it here There are a lot of stuff to do in pve tho.