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where the heck are the lowbies on xbox cyrodil?
MrDenimChicken
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It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
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Dunning_Kruger✭✭✭✭MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
Anyone starting new; is going to PC. Because it has more of a future than console for ESO. This is a reality. I see/play with load of Xbox Na transfers.____________________________________
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Togal✭✭✭✭There used to be fights in cyro all day long, now you only get fights at peak time and its garbage. ESO pvp is dying and theres no surprise in that.4
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Indigogo✭✭✭✭✭Where is the appeal for anyone to start and invest in pvp with the constant gear/cp/race changes?
Can't see newbies blowing their money to set up a no proc build, just to need a whole new set up within weeks. And vice versa, a huge amount of people just stopped pvp rather than set up for no proc.
Add to that performance problems...
Casuals and newbies totally discouraged, leaving just the more hardcore types.12 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I see low levels everywhere in PvE on Console. What I'm guessing is happening, the Low Level new players unfortunately join the CP Campaigns first, waltz into the zergs and ball groups of kitted out vets, get utterly annihilated again and again, then leave and never come back.
The frequent input lag spikes are also frustrating and debilitating. The game isn't dying, the environment just isn't welcoming whatsoever.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭On ps4 I spent a couple dozen hours doing pve stuff in the Non Vet pvp campaign the last couple weeks. It was so depressingly dead. Just no one there. No CP is almost as dead.
Made what I was doing easy but it really does suck for legit new players. They don't have much choice but to hop into big boy pvp and they're at a massive disadvantage.7 -
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✭well how is a new player supposed to compete with someone several hundreds to thousands of CP above them?? also veteran players have it much easier to acquire and upgrade good gear and adapt to the constant "balance" changes.
i see no future for low level pvp honestly. that's why i only play battlegroundsPC EU4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Dunning_Kruger wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
Anyone starting new; is going to PC. Because it has more of a future than console for ESO. This is a reality. I see/play with load of Xbox Na transfers.
Why would PC ESO have more of a future than console ESO - this makes not much sense. Console versions of the game are incredibly populated, I am playing on Xbox EU and there are people everywhere. I don’t get this argument, just because people think PC is superior it doesn’t mean that PC is superior.
The not so popular campaigns on PC are empty as well, the most populated campaigns are just the standard ones - this was always the case and there’s not much of a difference between console and PC.Edited by Seraphayel on April 23, 2021 7:47AMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -6 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Dunning_Kruger wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
Anyone starting new; is going to PC. Because it has more of a future than console for ESO. This is a reality. I see/play with load of Xbox Na transfers.
Why would PC ESO have more of a future than console ESO - this makes not much sense. Console versions of the game are incredibly populated, I am playing on Xbox EU and there are people everywhere. I don’t get this argument, just because people think PC is superior it doesn’t mean that PC is superior.
The not so popular campaigns on PC are empty as well, the most populated campaigns are just the standard ones - this was always the case and there’s not much of a difference between console and PC.
You say people are everywhere, but do you mean pve?
I play Xbox EU too, and PvP is dead. Nobody plays any campaign apart from the main one. That rarely even two bars most nights now.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Dunning_Kruger wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
Anyone starting new; is going to PC. Because it has more of a future than console for ESO. This is a reality. I see/play with load of Xbox Na transfers.
Why would PC ESO have more of a future than console ESO - this makes not much sense. Console versions of the game are incredibly populated, I am playing on Xbox EU and there are people everywhere. I don’t get this argument, just because people think PC is superior it doesn’t mean that PC is superior.
The not so popular campaigns on PC are empty as well, the most populated campaigns are just the standard ones - this was always the case and there’s not much of a difference between console and PC.
You say people are everywhere, but do you mean pve?
I play Xbox EU too, and PvP is dead. Nobody plays any campaign apart from the main one. That rarely even two bars most nights now.
Which is mostly the case for every platform. It’s the same on PS4 and due to forum complains I’ve read in the last weeks it seems to be exactly the same on PC. There’s one full campaign and the others are empty or dead - this is nothing new and has been the case for the last years.Edited by Seraphayel on April 23, 2021 10:43AMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
drakthir✭✭✭Slow mount is the main reason i wont go Cyro, its a big map, do you reckon thats why it lags so much maybe?
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✭Unpopular opinion, but I believe the move from 24 to 12 person groups plays a part in this. Guild groups are full, and it feels like fewer and fewer players are willing to be "crowns" so where a group with 18 players had room for 6 randoms, now they simply don't. The result is that a new player (at least on PS4NA) has a slim chance of being invited to join a group.
Still, ZOS must be able to see the numbers - They have reports on population and participation, and I can only hope they are paying attention and will take action to reverse the trend.PS5NA6 -
CeeJonesy✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Dunning_Kruger wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
Anyone starting new; is going to PC. Because it has more of a future than console for ESO. This is a reality. I see/play with load of Xbox Na transfers.
Why would PC ESO have more of a future than console ESO - this makes not much sense. Console versions of the game are incredibly populated, I am playing on Xbox EU and there are people everywhere. I don’t get this argument, just because people think PC is superior it doesn’t mean that PC is superior.
The not so popular campaigns on PC are empty as well, the most populated campaigns are just the standard ones - this was always the case and there’s not much of a difference between console and PC.
You say people are everywhere, but do you mean pve?
I play Xbox EU too, and PvP is dead. Nobody plays any campaign apart from the main one. That rarely even two bars most nights now.
Which is mostly the case for every platform. It’s the same on PS4 and due to forum complains I’ve read in the last weeks it seems to be exactly the same on PC. There’s one full campaign and the others are empty or dead - this is nothing new and has been the case for the last years.
Moved from Xbox EU to PC EU not too long ago. Xbox looks like its on its last legs in comparison. I recently went back on Xbox to pass some mats to an old guildmate and both Mournhold and Rawlkha had like 8 people each in them at like 6:30pm GMT. That used to be prime time and they are the 2 busiest trading towns on that server unless something has changed in the last 3 months. I used to play nothing but PvP but I got bored of fighting the same 3 groups on each team every night. PC seems a lot more lively in my experience.PC EU | XBOX EU0 -
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✭Xbox NA is fine just go in grey host and try to run with a group, ask in the group who's running a guild, join guild, prosper.0 -
WoppaBoem✭✭✭✭✭Unpopular opinion, but I believe the move from 24 to 12 person groups plays a part in this. Guild groups are full, and it feels like fewer and fewer players are willing to be "crowns" so where a group with 18 players had room for 6 randoms, now they simply don't. The result is that a new player (at least on PS4NA) has a slim chance of being invited to join a group.
Still, ZOS must be able to see the numbers - They have reports on population and participation, and I can only hope they are paying attention and will take action to reverse the trend.
This is major factor, ZOS should take notice on this. I ran many groups way before the change from 24 to 12 and I always picked up some new players from zone or even walking around. Started talking helping them making some fun, let them buy meatbags to carry their weight and create interest.
Now you see the LFG's repeated in zone multiple times meaning they are not picked up. This can be very destructive in couple of months, there needs to be a new fresh batch of players coming in as there will always be players leaving.Xbox EU & NA - PVP Only2 -
WoppaBoem✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Dunning_Kruger wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
Anyone starting new; is going to PC. Because it has more of a future than console for ESO. This is a reality. I see/play with load of Xbox Na transfers.
Why would PC ESO have more of a future than console ESO - this makes not much sense. Console versions of the game are incredibly populated, I am playing on Xbox EU and there are people everywhere. I don’t get this argument, just because people think PC is superior it doesn’t mean that PC is superior.
The not so popular campaigns on PC are empty as well, the most populated campaigns are just the standard ones - this was always the case and there’s not much of a difference between console and PC.
You say people are everywhere, but do you mean pve?
I play Xbox EU too, and PvP is dead. Nobody plays any campaign apart from the main one. That rarely even two bars most nights now.
And which is good btw, 3 bars and the servers give up. I am happy with the 2 bars, enough to fight about while the game actually works. I dont envy those populated servers at all.Edited by WoppaBoem on April 23, 2021 1:36PMXbox EU & NA - PVP Only0 -
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✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Dunning_Kruger wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
Anyone starting new; is going to PC. Because it has more of a future than console for ESO. This is a reality. I see/play with load of Xbox Na transfers.
Why would PC ESO have more of a future than console ESO - this makes not much sense. Console versions of the game are incredibly populated, I am playing on Xbox EU and there are people everywhere. I don’t get this argument, just because people think PC is superior it doesn’t mean that PC is superior.
The not so popular campaigns on PC are empty as well, the most populated campaigns are just the standard ones - this was always the case and there’s not much of a difference between console and PC.
You say people are everywhere, but do you mean pve?
I play Xbox EU too, and PvP is dead. Nobody plays any campaign apart from the main one. That rarely even two bars most nights now.
And which is good btw, 3 bars and the servers give up. I am happy with the 2 bars, enough to fight about while the game actually works. I dont envy those populated servers at all.
I get that. And it's true.
But most times I lot on there's the same blue zerg, the same red zerg, the same yellow serg, then a handful of the same smaller groups on each alliance.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Dunning_Kruger wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
Anyone starting new; is going to PC. Because it has more of a future than console for ESO. This is a reality. I see/play with load of Xbox Na transfers.
Why would PC ESO have more of a future than console ESO - this makes not much sense. Console versions of the game are incredibly populated, I am playing on Xbox EU and there are people everywhere. I don’t get this argument, just because people think PC is superior it doesn’t mean that PC is superior.
The not so popular campaigns on PC are empty as well, the most populated campaigns are just the standard ones - this was always the case and there’s not much of a difference between console and PC.
You say people are everywhere, but do you mean pve?
I play Xbox EU too, and PvP is dead. Nobody plays any campaign apart from the main one. That rarely even two bars most nights now.
Which is mostly the case for every platform. It’s the same on PS4 and due to forum complains I’ve read in the last weeks it seems to be exactly the same on PC. There’s one full campaign and the others are empty or dead - this is nothing new and has been the case for the last years.
Moved from Xbox EU to PC EU not too long ago. Xbox looks like its on its last legs in comparison. I recently went back on Xbox to pass some mats to an old guildmate and both Mournhold and Rawlkha had like 8 people each in them at like 6:30pm GMT. That used to be prime time and they are the 2 busiest trading towns on that server unless something has changed in the last 3 months. I used to play nothing but PvP but I got bored of fighting the same 3 groups on each team every night. PC seems a lot more lively in my experience.
Daggerfall, Alinor, Wayrest, Vulkhel Watch and a lot of other hubs are always filled with people. Overland is always quite crowded unless you’re really in a zone that hasn’t to offer anything interesting. I really can’t complain about population on Xbox EU, it’s always busy, queues don’t take too long and the main campaign is crowded as well.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Damage proc sets are one thing, but with most of the support "proc" sets also disabled not many feel like playing.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Dunning_Kruger wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
Anyone starting new; is going to PC. Because it has more of a future than console for ESO. This is a reality. I see/play with load of Xbox Na transfers.
Why would PC ESO have more of a future than console ESO - this makes not much sense. Console versions of the game are incredibly populated, I am playing on Xbox EU and there are people everywhere. I don’t get this argument, just because people think PC is superior it doesn’t mean that PC is superior.
The not so popular campaigns on PC are empty as well, the most populated campaigns are just the standard ones - this was always the case and there’s not much of a difference between console and PC.
You say people are everywhere, but do you mean pve?
I play Xbox EU too, and PvP is dead. Nobody plays any campaign apart from the main one. That rarely even two bars most nights now.
Which is mostly the case for every platform. It’s the same on PS4 and due to forum complains I’ve read in the last weeks it seems to be exactly the same on PC. There’s one full campaign and the others are empty or dead - this is nothing new and has been the case for the last years.
Moved from Xbox EU to PC EU not too long ago. Xbox looks like its on its last legs in comparison. I recently went back on Xbox to pass some mats to an old guildmate and both Mournhold and Rawlkha had like 8 people each in them at like 6:30pm GMT. That used to be prime time and they are the 2 busiest trading towns on that server unless something has changed in the last 3 months. I used to play nothing but PvP but I got bored of fighting the same 3 groups on each team every night. PC seems a lot more lively in my experience.
Daggerfall, Alinor, Wayrest, Vulkhel Watch and a lot of other hubs are always filled with people. Overland is always quite crowded unless you’re really in a zone that hasn’t to offer anything interesting. I really can’t complain about population on Xbox EU, it’s always busy, queues don’t take too long and the main campaign is crowded as well.
The main campaign isn't crowded.
It never pop locks for everyone outside of MyM.
It barely ever even 3 bars anymore.
The mpa is usually dead. 20 minutes can easily go by without a single keep being sieged.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah that is especially true of the EU servers on PS4.
The NA servers are much more populated or were till the last couple of patches.0 -
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✭✭✭The unique kind of combat that made eso PvP great is gone imo.
After Wrobel left just too many changes and too many different directions. The game and the PvP I loved for over a half decade just became stale and lost it’s special touch.
Maybe if they added new PvP content to rekindle the spark it might help. Though I just think changing things for the servers situation has ruined the game. Balancing a game around a server is a lost cause.
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✭MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
I haven't set foot in Cyrodiil or IC in 3 years, maybe more. What little interest I had in PvP vanished when I saw/experienced very high level characters destroying lower level/inexperienced players, making it no fun for them. I mean, these guys would even buff up their characters so they could pretty much one-hit kill anything lower than them... It's almost as if they couldn't play worth a shite unless their character was overpowered. So... I don't bother with PvP any more, and have zero intention of going back in there - even though I now have max level characters and could likely do pretty well. I just have no interest in it now.2 -
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✭pvp requires a heavy amount of dedication and research. You either go elite mode, or you can't pvp. The only way for newbies to play pvp are some max range pokers behind zergs, but that's hard to come by and rare. For battlegrounds they would just feed the enemy teams because they can't do anything. A better MMR needs to be set in place but matches would barely start then. Are there really only like 30 people playing battlegrounds in a prime time? Why is solo queue always a few minutes waiting time for battlegrounds?-PC EU- / battlegrounds on my youtube1 -
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✭✭✭They banned zergs and proc sets and desyncs are at an all time high so they are playing other games.
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✭We don’t need PvP for transmute crystals anymore, I have no need for RoTW now
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✭✭✭I have characters on both PS4 NA and EU. It seems like they roll up the sidewalks in EU at 3-4 pm Central US time, if even that late.
Not many at all.
PS4 NA is better overnight, but is still fairly light overall in many ways.PC
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MrDenimChicken✭✭✭✭✭Xbox NA is fine just go in grey host and try to run with a group, ask in the group who's running a guild, join guild, prosper.
Grayhost is so insanely laggy though. Like it's not really playable. You have to spam your buttons twice for them to trigger, sometimes even that isn't enough. People teleport around (not through abilities mind you, through lagy). You see "roll dodge" when you attack people who are not dodging at all. Desync makes your resources go to 0% and then you die a few seconds later.
I mean it's honestly insane how laggy it is. Like I don't think it's an actually functioning product. If this game was released this year, reviewers would make the cyrodil lag a meme that would be on par with anthem loading screens.
So I usually go to blackreach so I can actually, you know, control my character.3 -
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✭MrDenimChicken wrote: »Xbox NA is fine just go in grey host and try to run with a group, ask in the group who's running a guild, join guild, prosper.
Grayhost is so insanely laggy though. Like it's not really playable. You have to spam your buttons twice for them to trigger, sometimes even that isn't enough. People teleport around (not through abilities mind you, through lagy). You see "roll dodge" when you attack people who are not dodging at all. Desync makes your resources go to 0% and then you die a few seconds later.
I mean it's honestly insane how laggy it is. Like I don't think it's an actually functioning product. If this game was released this year, reviewers would make the cyrodil lag a meme that would be on par with anthem loading screens.
So I usually go to blackreach so I can actually, you know, control my character.
I hear you... Hopefully new servers/new Series X version helps. I still go to GH despite the lag, I feel like the actual goal of a Cyro campaign is important there even if you can get some cleaner fights in the other campaigns.0 -
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✭Dunning_Kruger wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »It seems like the majority of players are between CP 1200-2000, and former emps and 5 star generals everywhere. I seldom see anyone under CP 900. Under 800 is nonexistent.
To me it seems like cyrodil is dying if theres no new blood and everyone is a player that's played every day for 2-4 years.
Anyone starting new; is going to PC. Because it has more of a future than console for ESO. This is a reality. I see/play with load of Xbox Na transfers.
Why would anyone new want to go to PC with all the try-hards who super min-max and use add-ons discouraging them from competitive play?0
