Dragonnord wrote: »

Wow! The people that invested REAL money to get Radiant Apex mounts will be REALLY p*s*ed since everyone can get everything now wihout spending a cent.

The odds of being hit by lightening in rl are probably better.

Seeing all the negative here makes me laugh. These are the same Ppl who complain about not being able to farm loot boxes now complaining that an Unknown rate will be too low lol.

jircris11 wrote: »

Seeing all the negative here makes me laugh. These are the same Ppl who complain about not being able to farm loot boxes now complaining that an Unknown rate will be too low lol.

To be fair, people are just tired of shady practises and feeling like they're being ripped off. Mindlessly negative is kinda lame, but I get why people are cautious, even though I'm really pumped about this.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO really happy about this honestly. I can finally get the only crown crate thing I've ever wanted without going against my moral code

LadyHeloise wrote: »

Although the number of 'currencies' is getting a bit much!

*Laughs in Guild Wars 2*

Seriously if you think ESO is bad you should see their list of currencies. (And if you did look at the link bear in mind that's just the ones the game classes as currencies, there's a separate list of "tokens" which are exchanged for various things, then there's crafting materials which are sometimes used as currencies...

I have to admit I don't understand why they don't just make endeavours award crown gems, since they'll do the same thing. That's what makes me think the prices might be quite different, that's the only reason I could see for introducing a new currency. (Although I would have thought they could achieve the same thing by adjusting how many gems you get - for example if they want it to be that once a month you can get a 100 gem item just make it so you earn about 3-4 gems a day.)

Mythreindeer wrote: »

Keeps players engaged and likely helps to skirt EU anti gambling regs.

Nice move, no downsides.

this here...the reason in a nutshell
spot on

Class change token?

Well the downside to this will be when crate prices increase and most people will end up having to buy them anyways because if the new CP grind is any indication of the direction that ZOS is moving the game then the grind for these free crates will be insane.

Danikat wrote: »

Daraklus wrote: »

I see this as a good thing, something that could give people a chance to get stuff without spending exorbitant amounts of money via gamblecrates in order to get things.

Now I would like to better understand people who have a problem with this, because I don't see the hard downside to this.

I don't see a downside to it either. The worst case scenario I can see is it's worthless because endeavours are too grindy/difficult/time consuming to be worth completing, most of the rewards aren't worth having and the crown crate items are so expensive in the new currency that it's unrealistic to try to get any before the crates change over.

But in that case players can simply ignore the system and carry on as they did before. You don't gain anything, but it's not taking anything away either. You might occasionally complete an endeavour without even trying because it happens to coincide with what you're doing anyway and then you get some unexpected free stuff, otherwise the game is the same as before.

Edit: I suppose if you're opposed to crown crates and don't think this will be a good alternative one downside is that having this system makes it less likely they'll remove the crates entirely or offer another alternative.

Not true, it says in the article that they're automatically active and collect automatically once they're completed - you can literally ignore them and still profit.

TequilaFire wrote: »

Note that you can't convert the junk items obtained this way to gems.
So that is one big downside.

If the idea is to provide a method outside of the crown store, then there is no downside. "But the grind" is hilarious, at least to me, but I've actually played games with very real grind, where a couple of hours of continuous grind gained you 1% of a level, and if you should die during that, you'll have a net loss of 3%, since you lose 4% xp on death. Since I'm not big on crates regardless, as in, I don't buy them with sub stipends, as a rule, this is a method for me to get something I would never get, which means it's a net positive.