I combined it with Vampire and it's a monster on the battlefield, but magDK is one of those classes that does very well with proc sets. Without them the class has some flaws in it's design and they'll rear their ugly heads once you face opponents with a dedicated purge ability. You lack effective delayed burst damage the other classes do so you end up relying on your damage over time abilities to burn your foes to the ground.

This works incredibly well against people with no way to outheal your DoTs, but the moment you fight a Warden, Templar, or Necromancer (or any other class using Cleanse from the Support line) with a purge ability slotted it feels like you won't be able to even hurt them. I remember asking for advice in zone chat for how to get around this issue and this one dude recommend me all these sets, and they were all sadly proc sets. He didn't realize this till I sent him the list of all sets allowed in no-proc Cyrodiil.

So is it good? Yes and no, depends on who you fight, what their class is, what abilities they use, and their skill level.

Berchelous wrote: »

Is vampire must for mobility?

Vampire has no mobility that makes you faster than anyone else. If you have the CP passive that boosts sprint speed you'll go so much faster than Elusive Mist while sprinting it's not even funny. What Mistform does do however is allow you to get around a chaotic battle field without getting snared or stunned, and can help you get behind your allies in case you take too much aggro. Now if you bite the bullet and go stage 4, sprint will cost 50% less which is amazing for a magDK. You just have to contend with 0% health regeneration, everything that isn't a vampire ability costing 12% more, and taking 20% more flame damage. Thanks to DK's spell resistance the fire issue isn't as big of a problem, especially if you're a Breton to. Add in the stage 3 damage resistance and you can actually stay in stage 4 quite comfortably if you know how to manage your magicka.

Berchelous wrote: »

Do i still need malacath band to be effective in cyrodiil?

Malacath's Band of Brutality is a proc set and doesn't work. The full list of sets that do work are as follows:

• Amber Plasm
• Armor of the Trainee
• Beekeeper’s Gear
• Crafty Alfiq
• Draugr Hulk
• Endurance
• Fortified Brass
• Grace of the Ancients
• Hunding’s Rage
• Impregnable Armor
• Law of Julianos
• Leviathan
• Mother’s Sorrow
• Plague Doctor
• Shacklebreaker
• Spinner’s Garments
• Spriggan’s Thorns
• Willpower
• Agility

INe_Saninus wrote: »

I can only speak on Battlegrounds. I haven't tried no proc Cyrodiil yet.

Absolute monster. One of my top performing toons, if not my top.
Battles it out with my Stamden for easiest matches with the highest scores.

Without procs though... (shrugs)

The class feels like it needs certain sets to perform.

I'm rocking no procs in bgs too, and magDK feels smooth af, charge up molten, fossilize or leap into whip, it's nice dmg for sure.
That being said I did try zaan +vate destro for a couple of games and yeah.. It's pretty disgusting.

A big problem of MagDK is the combination of being melee, low mobility, and DoT oriented (low burst).

No matter which class, without the help of CP, you rely on GEARS. As class skills of magdks aren't very good and costs are high, the class need to depend on gears more than some good classes like stamdens and stamsorcs.

To fight 2H stamina opponents as a melee magicka class, you need extra stamina to roll dodge, block, and run. You may also need recoveries as the costs are really high.

In terms of amor weight, don't run 5 light as light armor defuffs make you even more vulnerable to high burst stamina enemies, especially considering magdks are melee and usually directly fight 2H stam toons. You may mix something like 4H 3L, 3H 4L, or something else.

Like some others mentioned above, you need to equip quite a few of proc sets of allowed. I personally prefer no-proc Cyrodiil because other classes are even way stronger with procs.

Unlike sorcerers or night blades, magdks have no good abilities to flee from a fight, so some players prefer vampire madgks for the mist form, especially if they're dark elfs and your passive hleps to mitigate the extra flame damage being a vampire. But don't forget that your non-vampire skill costs will be higher... It's a personal choice. Some people use race against time.