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FinneganFroth
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The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT and it glitches out constantly. How does a 5+ year old dungeon still fail like this...
Final boss, lightning addons just randomly won't die. Seriously, it's really hard to pull new serious players into this game when age-old content continues to fail...
Final boss, lightning addons just randomly won't die. Seriously, it's really hard to pull new serious players into this game when age-old content continues to fail...
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Lyserus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭yeah nah
trying to introduce the game to a new player and first dungeon you get him to dlc vet dungeonEdited by Lyserus on April 13, 2021 3:24AM33 -
phaneub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.29 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
You only need 300 CP to queue for vDLC. You can walk into vWGT immediately after leaving character creation. But you need a preformed group to get as far as the end boss in that case.Edited by virtus753 on April 13, 2021 3:28AM0 -
FinneganFroth✭✭✭✭✭phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
He leveled himself to CP 110 without ever going to a dungeon. My life has been busy and I couldn't play much with him until now. We queued for a random vet and it was WGT. WGT is easy and so we decided to do HM. The final boss glitched because of stupid code. You people are focusing on the wrong thing; who cares that his first dungeon was vet HM WGT. The damn thing was broke, that's the real problem...9 -
oddbasket✭✭✭✭✭
✭I just drop dots on the mages and let them die and attack a different mage if another player is already attacking, guaranteed not to bug them out. It only bugs if they die too fast like 2 dps use direct attack on the same mage and it dies instantly.2 -
Sarannah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ran this dungeon dozens of times, and only had it glitch once(took 3 tries to get it done). I think it has something to do with necromancer skills. The game trying to create a corpse on death, while the minion is supposed to explode. Resulting in the glitch.3 -
Khrogo✭✭✭phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
You only need 300 CP to queue for vDLC. You can walk into vWGT immediately after leaving character creation. But you need a preformed group to get as far as the end boss in that case.
I always thought non-vet characters couldn’t enter a veteran instance even if they travelled in. Interesting.0 -
josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭Its a new glitch(relatively speaking) that has only been happening last patch or two...new glitches takes some time to get resolved, they rarely patch the game other than updates...you know this. Its not a game breaking glitch, minor inconvenience at best, far better than the lich glitch in say vFL where it would prevent you from completing the dungeon at all. Sure..if you are going for no death its aggravating, other than that, its one of the things on their list to be fixed next patch I am sure.2 -
Agenericname✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
You only need 300 CP to queue for vDLC. You can walk into vWGT immediately after leaving character creation. But you need a preformed group to get as far as the end boss in that case.
Correct about not needing to be 300 except for the queue, but you still need to be 50 to get into a vet. I've tried, even in premade groups you're locked out until 50.0 -
Septimus_Magna✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I just drop dots on the mages and let them die and attack a different mage if another player is already attacking, guaranteed not to bug them out. It only bugs if they die too fast like 2 dps use direct attack on the same mage and it dies instantly.
I can attest to the fact that doesnt solve the problem, last time I ran vWGT HM the lightning adds bugged out constantly, even if we killed them slow. We tried everything, only 1 person for each add, killing one add at a time etc. Even if one add phase worked the next would bug out, very annoying so we ended up just doing the non-HM which didnt have the issue.
They finally fix the last boss of ICP and now WGT is broken..PC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer0 -
FinneganFroth✭✭✭✭✭Its a new glitch(relatively speaking) that has only been happening last patch or two...new glitches takes some time to get resolved, they rarely patch the game other than updates...you know this. Its not a game breaking glitch, minor inconvenience at best, far better than the lich glitch in say vFL where it would prevent you from completing the dungeon at all. Sure..if you are going for no death its aggravating, other than that, its one of the things on their list to be fixed next patch I am sure.
Except it did prevent us from finishing the dungeon
We never got past that mechanic because it would glitch. 0 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Agenericname wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
You only need 300 CP to queue for vDLC. You can walk into vWGT immediately after leaving character creation. But you need a preformed group to get as far as the end boss in that case.
Correct about not needing to be 300 except for the queue, but you still need to be 50 to get into a vet. I've tried, even in premade groups you're locked out until 50.
Interesting. Wonder when that changed. I could have sworn I’ve walked into vet instances on non-vet toons.0 -
JanTanhide✭✭✭✭✭
✭phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
You only need 300 CP to queue for vDLC. You can walk into vWGT immediately after leaving character creation. But you need a preformed group to get as far as the end boss in that case.
Well, you have to be at least CP 10 to walk or port in.0 -
JanTanhide✭✭✭✭✭
✭phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
You only need 300 CP to queue for vDLC. You can walk into vWGT immediately after leaving character creation. But you need a preformed group to get as far as the end boss in that case.
I always thought non-vet characters couldn’t enter a veteran instance even if they travelled in. Interesting.
You are correct. Can't go in a Vet dungeon until CP 10 or higher.0 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JanTanhide wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
You only need 300 CP to queue for vDLC. You can walk into vWGT immediately after leaving character creation. But you need a preformed group to get as far as the end boss in that case.
Well, you have to be at least CP 10 to walk or port in.
See above.
But that would explain how OP’s friend got in if they did do it at CP 110. If they queued at 110 they should not have gotten into a vDLC — if they did, that’s another bug. (One that has been around before.)0 -
JanTanhide✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've seen this glitch as you described once or twice. I've also seen the boss sit in her shield with all support NPCs dead and couldn't finish it.
But yeah, why take your friend into Vet WGT for their first dungeon?0 -
JanTanhide✭✭✭✭✭
✭Agenericname wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
You only need 300 CP to queue for vDLC. You can walk into vWGT immediately after leaving character creation. But you need a preformed group to get as far as the end boss in that case.
Correct about not needing to be 300 except for the queue, but you still need to be 50 to get into a vet. I've tried, even in premade groups you're locked out until 50.
Interesting. Wonder when that changed. I could have sworn I’ve walked into vet instances on non-vet toons.
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Veinblood1965✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ran into that glitch last month, googled it and this worked. You have to assign one player to light attack each add slowly until each one dies, it's the opposite of a dps race. Not sure if it's intentional or not but if it is it's very odd. I was saying the same thing at the time, how does this continue?1 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JanTanhide wrote: »Agenericname wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
You only need 300 CP to queue for vDLC. You can walk into vWGT immediately after leaving character creation. But you need a preformed group to get as far as the end boss in that case.
Correct about not needing to be 300 except for the queue, but you still need to be 50 to get into a vet. I've tried, even in premade groups you're locked out until 50.
Interesting. Wonder when that changed. I could have sworn I’ve walked into vet instances on non-vet toons.
CP 10.
As you keep saying.
What I’m saying is I’ve been in a vet dungeon under level 50. It may have been while they were bugged.0 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That bug is caused by too much dps btw. It doesn't happen if you deal less damage.
Wayrest Sewers is way worse with the bugs though. Especially Wayrest Sewers 1 and you can encounter those without ESO+ already and fairly early on too.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
xv1_me✭✭✭It doesn’t matter what dungeon you introduce your friend too. They are all easy. As for the bugs, it’s a Bethesda game..not only is it a Bethesda’s game, but a ZOS game. Never expect even close to perfection.0
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Jaimeh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah there's glitches and bugs to be found throughout the content, but I'm sure they'll make the most of their subscription, which is nice for a new player having a craft bag, and not to worry about maxing inventory etc. But why vWGT as their first vet HM? Not so much anymore, but back in the day this dungeon made enemies out of PUGs
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✭✭Agenericname wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
You only need 300 CP to queue for vDLC. You can walk into vWGT immediately after leaving character creation. But you need a preformed group to get as far as the end boss in that case.
Correct about not needing to be 300 except for the queue, but you still need to be 50 to get into a vet. I've tried, even in premade groups you're locked out until 50.
Interesting. Wonder when that changed. I could have sworn I’ve walked into vet instances on non-vet toons.
I believe its intended to be a hard lock. I suspect your case is that of a bug or glitch, which doesn't surprise me. I havent tried in a while, a year or two I'd guess.FinneganFroth wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
He leveled himself to CP 110 without ever going to a dungeon. My life has been busy and I couldn't play much with him until now. We queued for a random vet and it was WGT. WGT is easy and so we decided to do HM. The final boss glitched because of stupid code. You people are focusing on the wrong thing; who cares that his first dungeon was vet HM WGT. The damn thing was broke, that's the real problem...
Because CP110 in vWGT are way less common than bugs. Happened to us last night on a random vet. At least the blue flames walls make it easy to reset.0 -
Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can't believe that is still an issue.
We've spoken about it so many times now.
There was also the issue back in the day on MAC....when the lightning fields appeared the game crashed. That went on for about a month or so until fix.
But yeah....disappointing I believe you.0 -
Iccotak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭FinneganFroth wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
He leveled himself to CP 110 without ever going to a dungeon. My life has been busy and I couldn't play much with him until now. We queued for a random vet and it was WGT. WGT is easy and so we decided to do HM. The final boss glitched because of stupid code. You people are focusing on the wrong thing; who cares that his first dungeon was vet HM WGT. The damn thing was broke, that's the real problem...
This is a major flaw, the ideal way to play (yes there is an ideal) is to aim to participate in everything.
It is a major mistake to not start playing the dungeons at earlier levels.
Participate in Dungeons & PvP (BG & War), The longer you go avoiding it the harder you’re going to make it for yourself.
Players avoid this content and yet are surprised when they’re bad at it.0 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭FinneganFroth wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
He leveled himself to CP 110 without ever going to a dungeon. My life has been busy and I couldn't play much with him until now. We queued for a random vet and it was WGT. WGT is easy and so we decided to do HM. The final boss glitched because of stupid code. You people are focusing on the wrong thing; who cares that his first dungeon was vet HM WGT. The damn thing was broke, that's the real problem...
This is a major flaw, the ideal way to play (yes there is an ideal) is to aim to participate in everything.
It is a major mistake to not start playing the dungeons at earlier levels.
Participate in Dungeons & PvP (BG & War), The longer you go avoiding it the harder you’re going to make it for yourself.
Players avoid this content and yet are surprised when they’re bad at it.
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the dungeon was bugged. I have encountered that bug myself and its extremely annoying. what my SO and I ended up doing was running into the edge of the platform and resetting the fight, but the thing is - we shouldn't have had to.
this is NOT about being bad or not, its about fight BUGGING OUT and becoming unfinishable. because of a BUG.
and its an old bug too, this is not something that just happened in a recent patch.
[Edited to remove Baiting]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 13, 2021 5:22PMdirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***0 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ran this dungeon dozens of times, and only had it glitch once(took 3 tries to get it done). I think it has something to do with necromancer skills. The game trying to create a corpse on death, while the minion is supposed to explode. Resulting in the glitch.
I had that glitch happen while 2 manning with sorc (SO) and DK (me). so even if necro pets might trigger it, its not the primary thing that does.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***0 -
Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo✭✭✭✭✭
✭FinneganFroth wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »FinneganFroth wrote: »The FIRST dungeon he ever ran as a player was vet HM WGT
Why? You had to get him up to at least 300cp, why would you make that his first dungeon instead of doing some normal ones while leveling? Just curious.
He leveled himself to CP 110 without ever going to a dungeon. My life has been busy and I couldn't play much with him until now. We queued for a random vet and it was WGT. WGT is easy and so we decided to do HM. The final boss glitched because of stupid code. You people are focusing on the wrong thing; who cares that his first dungeon was vet HM WGT. The damn thing was broke, that's the real problem...
This is a major flaw, the ideal way to play (yes there is an ideal) is to aim to participate in everything.
It is a major mistake to not start playing the dungeons at earlier levels.
Participate in Dungeons & PvP (BG & War), The longer you go avoiding it the harder you’re going to make it for yourself.
Players avoid this content and yet are surprised when they’re bad at it.
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the dungeon was bugged. I have encountered that bug myself and its extremely annoying. what my SO and I ended up doing was running into the edge of the platform and resetting the fight, but the thing is - we shouldn't have had to.
this is NOT about being bad or not, its about fight BUGGING OUT and becoming unfinishable. because of a BUG.
and its an old bug too, this is not something that just happened in a recent patch.
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WGT is not a hard dungeon and yes it is still bugged 5 years down the road, period.
[Edited to remove Baiting]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 13, 2021 5:24PM0 -
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Wolfpaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wayrest Sewers 2 first boss still can bug out and doesn't show up locking group from the rest of the dungeon.
Backing out of new CP menu can also blue screen crash, like the previous CP system, since Greymoor.Edited by Wolfpaw on April 13, 2021 6:40PM0