Mr_Gallows wrote: »

ebix_ wrote: »

the state of pvp this patch is worse than worlds health care and you have to do something about it !
right now pvp players are divided to four groups

1. using proc sets
2. not using proc sets and complaining about it
3. using proc sets and complaining about it
4. dont care at all

I usually adapt to every patch and mostly I tell myself I dont care but deep down my heart I still care. all I'm asking is before you open the "gates of oblivion" and flood tamriel with new proc sets , listen to your players .
pvp is no longer enjoyable because procs are playing for us ,we are just light attacking sometimes to proc things. skill used to be the deciding factor in a fight , now its mostly about sets . half of the time you have to purge the other half you have to kite zaan and vateshran , most players are +35k health and since procs are carrying damage you are able to be as tanky as possible .

proc sets are overtuned and imo 10-15% nerf is needed, but even if you balance every proc set there is still malacath . if you consider malacath in your tests then proc sets will become useless without it and if you dont procs will be overpowered with it . so if you want to balance proc sets you have to do something about malacath first . imo malacath should not affect proc sets .

there should be a cap on how much tanky someone can get so putting more procs becomes more punishing because you have to give up healing ,and imo easiest solution is to put cap on max health in pvp . I think 27-30k is more than enough in cp and this will also bring health based heals to a normal state.

there is so much to talk about but to keep this long story short ,having a cap is needed to have balance ,if there is no limit there is no end and if there is no end there is no middle and middle point is where you balance things around it .

jeeeez its getting philosophic ! bye !

Proc sets should just be removed completely from pvp. Both offensive and defensive proc sets make pvp suck.

But for balance proc sets should have a flat bonus that is not i fluenced by your stats, buffs or anything. It should be a bonus along the lines of getting 300 WD from hundings. Nothing more.