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[Necromancer] Intensive Mender heal does not proc overheal conditions

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amir412
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Steps to reproduce:
* Grab a mag necro
* Wear 5 piece of Spell Power Cure set and slot Intensive Mender skill morph
* Take some minor dmg
* Use Intensive Mender skill to overheal urself
* Verify Spell Power Cure procced - FAILED
* Repeat with Mag Sorcerer using Twilight Tormentor - OK

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Expected result-
I expect that Necro's pet will behave exactly as Sorc's pet, so it will be able to proc such conditions.
This clearly looks like a bug or a hole in the class design, and should be fixed asap considering this class is behind a pay wall.

In these vids you can tell if the set is procced or not by looking at the toon's hands and the weapon damage meter.

Necromancer showcase:
https://i.imgur.com/bC2KbKk.mp4

Sorc showcase:
https://i.imgur.com/bHtKous.mp4

can we at least get that you guys acknowledge that this issue exists? @ZOS_Chiroptera @ZOS_GinaBruno
Edited by amir412 on April 5, 2021 8:48AM
  • Gnatrak
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    In order for SPC to proc you have to already be at full health. The Necromancer's Mender only begins healing once you've taken damage — the moment you're back to full health it stops healing therefore it won't proc SPC because technically it's not overhealing.

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    Edited by Gnatrak on April 5, 2021 8:52AM
  • amir412
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    Zurica wrote: »
    In order for SPC to proc you have to already be at full health. The Necromancer's Mender only begins healing once you've taken damage — the moment you're back to full health it stops healing therefore it won't proc SPC because technically it's not overhealing.

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    @Zurica

    Believe me, I know how this game works and it doesn't what the set description says.
    It says when you OVERHEAL youself or an ally, do you know what it means? I'll explain.
    Let's say you have 10,000 HP.
    You get hit by 1k dmg, then Intensive Mender heals you for 5k. You still think it should not be procced?
    It doesn't make sense what you've just wrote, and you can test it urself by lowering ur hp and use any other heal.
    Edited by amir412 on April 5, 2021 9:01AM
  • BohnT2
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    Zurica wrote: »
    In order for SPC to proc you have to already be at full health. The Necromancer's Mender only begins healing once you've taken damage — the moment you're back to full health it stops healing therefore it won't proc SPC because technically it's not overhealing.

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    The ghost always fails to proc spell power cure no matter if you lost HP before or not.
    The first video showcases it for both situations, with full hp and after some damage taken.

  • olsborg
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    Does rapid regeneration procc SPC?

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  • amir412
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    BohnT2 wrote: »
    Zurica wrote: »
    In order for SPC to proc you have to already be at full health. The Necromancer's Mender only begins healing once you've taken damage — the moment you're back to full health it stops healing therefore it won't proc SPC because technically it's not overhealing.

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    The ghost always fails to proc spell power cure no matter if you lost HP before or not.
    The first video showcases it for both situations, with full hp and after some damage taken.

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    @Zurica There you go:
    https://i.imgur.com/DI6IiZK.mp4

    @olsborg
    It should, but you never know :)

    [Edited to remove Baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on April 5, 2021 11:27AM
  • Qbiken
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    The ghosts is considered to be a pet and last time I checked, pets can't proc players worn sets (or at least there is no consistency to it)
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    The ghosts is considered to be a pet and last time I checked, pets can't proc players worn sets (or at least there is no consistency to it)

    @Qbiken How would you explain that mag sorc's pet heal does proc worn sets then?
  • Gnatrak
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    amir412 wrote: »
    Believe me, I know how this game works and it doesn't what the set description says.
    It says when you OVERHEAL youself or an ally, do you know what it means? I'll explain.
    Let's say you have 10,000 HP.
    You get hit by 1k dmg, then Intensive Mender heals you for 5k. You still think it should not be procced?
    It doesn't make sense what you've just wrote, and you can test it urself by lowering ur hp and use any other heal.

    Of course it doesn't make sense, believe me, I've been trolling for a long time.

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    amir412 wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    The ghosts is considered to be a pet and last time I checked, pets can't proc players worn sets (or at least there is no consistency to it)

    @Qbiken How would you explain that mag sorc's pet heal does proc worn sets then?

    I have not tried healing sets, but sorc pets do not proc Ilambris or Siroria. The sorc pet heal might work because it is activated by a button press on your ability bar. It is not happening passively without the player needing to do anything.
  • amir412
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno Can we please get a clarification on this one? Is it a bug or intended?
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    bump
  • Daemonai
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    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    amir412 wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    The ghosts is considered to be a pet and last time I checked, pets can't proc players worn sets (or at least there is no consistency to it)

    @Qbiken How would you explain that mag sorc's pet heal does proc worn sets then?

    I have not tried healing sets, but sorc pets do not proc Ilambris or Siroria. The sorc pet heal might work because it is activated by a button press on your ability bar. It is not happening passively without the player needing to do anything.

    This is the answer.
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