redspecter23 wrote: »

Either you're joking or you don't understand how the balance in pve differs from that of pvp.

Taking proc sets away from players and their opponents in pvp is balanced, though whether one likes that or not is up for debate.

Removing proc sets from players in pve and leaving the dungeons, mobs and bosses the same is game breaking for that environment.

I do understand balance in PvE. My point is: Balancing Class skills in PvP WILL have an impact on PvE enviroments too.
Right now there is a clear hirarchy in PvE which classes are top tier and which are not. Unless those class skills can be tested without proc sets in their PvE enviroment, the expected changes from PvP might have very different effect on PvE. Because the fights here are a very different ballgame.
Again, it is just a proposition open to discussion, not a demand.

"provocative" threads like this already led us to the current situation in pvp. Remember how many players were surprised when they discovered that malacath, vate inferno staff, zaan, crimson are not the only proc sets? How surprised they were about the fact that almost all sets were disabled? Please, be careful what are you wishing for here on the forum:)

Disabling procs in PVE would be a bye bye message for many players. I can't stand the fact that Cyrodiil on live server serves as beta test playground 7 years after game release. I can't justify same thing happening to the pve. We have PTS server for such things and if there are not enough players on PTS for any test, well ZoS, be creative. Everything will be better than making experiments on the live server. Why can't we have rewards on the live server for participation in the PTS tests if they are so important - for example 1 day of extra eso plus day for each day/few days spent on PTS during test event?

just don't put procs on

Why would anyone want to play a game where everyone has the same skills, same stats, same armor, with no diversity at all?

Vet dungeons and trials are all about people using their sets and skills to benefit the group. If you remove that, what is the point of group play? Might as well be a bunch of randos killing a world boss.

If you want to test your theory, go run VCR with 11 people with mismatched gear. Have fun.

El_Borracho wrote: »

If you want to test your theory, go run VCR with 11 people with mismatched gear. Have fun.

LOL VCR can get messy with proc sets, with people wearing mismatched gear probably VSO would be enough to make them think twice, however I honestly don't think they will ever do something like this, I'm liking how much you could coordinate gear with team, with the possibility of everyone wearing a different set to help each other! 80% of time in progress trials is gear farming, devs want you to stay glued to the game, and without gear farming and optimisation we would have little to do!

remove proc set hmmmmm no, but add an option to hide it yeah fo sho because when you play tank in trial and nearly 8 dd use maw set they absolutely pollutes your framerate and fiel of vision.

RedMuse wrote: »

OP, you really just want to watch the world, or at least the forum, burn, don't you?

tbh: No, not really..

I am genuinly concerned about the impact the expected changes for PvP might have on the larger PvE section since they MUST start balancing the skills to remove the high class imbalance.
So far the discussion is quite civil and constructive. And I would never force the change, therefore the poll, to get a realistic feedback.
ZOS would never open this box of Pandora, so do I. Maybe they even habe a way to check their changes in PvE enviroment but just did not tell us. (Which I hope they do)

Thank you all for your feedback and the missing inflammatory postings so far.