"The Batman" Stamina Nightblade PvP Build Clockwork City

I3akerOfcakes · December 2017

Strong Balance of all stats. Damage, Stamina, Health, Magicka, Stamina & Magicka Recovery, and Crit. Utility through Shield Breaker, Poisons, and High Magicka sustain.

Build

https://youtu.be/3S2c55LGsPM

Gameplay

https://youtu.be/1N6VHXqkwdo

lazerlaz · December 2017

I wouldn't put this build on if it was the only build in the game lol. Weak.

Kode · December 2017

That wasn't very nice. It might help him if you were constructive about his build if you think you can help.

Unfortunately I am not able to see the videos on this computer.

Lexxypwns · December 2017

christopher.duvalub17_ESO wrote: »

That wasn't very nice. It might help him if you were constructive about his build if you think you can help.

Unfortunately I am not able to see the videos on this computer.

Low damage, low sustain, No masters bow, no asylum 2h, no undaunted. Poisonous serpent outperforms shield breaker as a back bar set on builds that aren’t just potatoeing light attacks in an Xv1

Sarjako · December 2017

To be honest I tried it. I had a set crafted and ground out the gear for Shield Breaker ( is that this one? ) and it was lackluster. It works great on shielded targets but lacks umph when that shield comes down.

Izaki · December 2017

Yeah... Frankly, a simple Bone Pirate, Agility, Bloodspawn, Asylum/Master's would outperform this build in survivability, sustain and damage.

The bow trait should be Infused with a weapon damage enchant, it is better than Nirnhoned for both damage and healing, since 90% of the time you will weave light attacks while buffing up and healing on the bow bar. The front bar should be Nirnhoned with the Double Ravage Health poison.

And you should really try to fit in Relentless Focus in there, the damage increase is huge.

I3akerOfcakes · December 2017

I slaughter people with it

Izaki · December 2017

I3akerOfcakes wrote: »

I slaughter people with it

Its possible to slaughter people with a sub optimal build :P

SmellyUnlimited · December 2017

Just not enough stamina/sustain.

That build would work for just a clear 1v1 fight that you might come across randomly in Cyrodil. But anything 1x you’re going to be hurting.

I’m guessing this is more a duel build? You don’t have much to make it a prolonged fight, but then again nightblades don’t really want to anyway. Is your playstyle more hard ganks and escape, or bruiser?. If the former, you’d do much better with Archers Mind.

While dawnbreaker is certainly strong, it’s not as useful as other ults in your arsenal. Personally, I believe you’re better off, damage-wise, using either Ballista or Shooting Star (yes, even as a stam user).

If you’re using reverse slash, an Asylum 2hander will do wonders. You get back a disgusting amount of ultimate.

Note: also second the Relentless Focus suggestion. 10% regen and 8% damage is an incredible amount of value for one slot. Also, if you’re not using an Asylum, you’re better off with killers blade over reverse slash. The lifesteal alone is amazing. Executioner is reserved for mostly DK’s or Stamplar’s that don’t have a class execute.

Lexxypwns · December 2017

Izaki wrote: »

Yeah... Frankly, a simple Bone Pirate, Agility, Bloodspawn, Asylum/Master's would outperform this build in survivability, sustain and damage.

The bow trait should be Infused with a weapon damage enchant, it is better than Nirnhoned for both damage and healing, since 90% of the time you will weave light attacks while buffing up and healing on the bow bar. The front bar should be Nirnhoned with the Double Ravage Health poison.

And you should really try to fit in Relentless Focus in there, the damage increase is huge.

Shackle works for the 5pc as well. I also like troll king more than Bloodspawn on stamblade since cloak allows you to really capitalize on the big health regen.

Master’s bow with infused weapon damage glyphs is really amazing though, adds more burst than fully proc’ed fury. It adds more damage than Hundings by a mile and if you’re not potatoeing light attacks it’s more added damage than shieldbreaker.

Unfadingsilence · December 2017

Love the builds baker puts out I always try and add my little twist with them as well. sometimes adding a new set or switching a few things around plus playing on Xbox na and seeing his builds work for him great in 1v1 fights and even better 1vX. Great job and keep up the good work

Trashs1 · December 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Izaki wrote: »

Yeah... Frankly, a simple Bone Pirate, Agility, Bloodspawn, Asylum/Master's would outperform this build in survivability, sustain and damage.

The bow trait should be Infused with a weapon damage enchant, it is better than Nirnhoned for both damage and healing, since 90% of the time you will weave light attacks while buffing up and healing on the bow bar. The front bar should be Nirnhoned with the Double Ravage Health poison.

And you should really try to fit in Relentless Focus in there, the damage increase is huge.

Shackle works for the 5pc as well. I also like troll king more than Bloodspawn on stamblade since cloak allows you to really capitalize on the big health regen.

Master’s bow with infused weapon damage glyphs is really amazing though, adds more burst than fully proc’ed fury. It adds more damage than Hundings by a mile and if you’re not potatoeing light attacks it’s more added damage than shieldbreaker.

the problem with masters bow is simply i dont have a grp to do the vdsa...

im running hundings/senche/2 veli atm... works average

I3akerOfcakes · December 2017

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

Just not enough stamina/sustain.

That build would work for just a clear 1v1 fight that you might come across randomly in Cyrodil. But anything 1x you’re going to be hurting.

I’m guessing this is more a duel build? You don’t have much to make it a prolonged fight, but then again nightblades don’t really want to anyway. Is your playstyle more hard ganks and escape, or bruiser?. If the former, you’d do much better with Archers Mind.

While dawnbreaker is certainly strong, it’s not as useful as other ults in your arsenal. Personally, I believe you’re better off, damage-wise, using either Ballista or Shooting Star (yes, even as a stam user).

If you’re using reverse slash, an Asylum 2hander will do wonders. You get back a disgusting amount of ultimate.

Note: also second the Relentless Focus suggestion. 10% regen and 8% damage is an incredible amount of value for one slot. Also, if you’re not using an Asylum, you’re better off with killers blade over reverse slash. The lifesteal alone is amazing. Executioner is reserved for mostly DK’s or Stamplar’s that don’t have a class execute.

Did you watch the gameplay?

I3akerOfcakes · December 2017

Izaki wrote: »

I3akerOfcakes wrote: »

I slaughter people with it

Its possible to slaughter people with a sub optimal build :P

As long as you are not a sub optimal player :P

I3akerOfcakes · December 2017

I've mained Stamina Nightblade for a couple years at this point and I have 125K + Alliance kills and I mostly run solo, with one other person, or a small group.

I understand that many people here do not understand the functionality of this build or the mentality behind it.

Everyone always just thinks about Stats, Stats, Stats, and they also think about them in the wrong way. Yes if you used the typical Bone Pirate, Agility, Master, Asylum, Monster you can achieve a lot of certain stats, and even better the stats you achieve are the ones every typical nightblade wants which is Weapon Damage, Max Stamina, Stamina Recovery.

Magicka Sustain is something stamblades overlook because they are so focused on pumping up the 3 basic stats they want. Bone Pirate setups because they use Dubious drinks have lots of Max stamina and stamina recovery however it has little magicka sustain. Magicka sustain = Stamina sustain, cloak and fear help your stamina sustain by buying you time to regain your stamina through recovery and siphoning attacks. Magicka sustain also greatly helps 1vX because you can constantly cause chaos with fear and disappear anytime, instead of the typical stamblade that just dodges a lot. Not only can I dodge a lot but I can Fear nonstop and nearly perma cloak if I need to.

All I want to get across is, try not to have tunnel vision when creating your builds. The best builds for open world 1vX are the builds that have a strong BALANCE of stats. The best builds for small group are the ones that have lots of UTILITY. And also the basic Bone Pirate setup is boring and overused. Be creative it makes the game more interesting

Takes-No-Prisoner · December 2017

I3akerOfcakes wrote: »

I've mained Stamina Nightblade for a couple years at this point and I have 125K + Alliance kills and I mostly run solo, with one other person, or a small group.

I understand that many people here do not understand the functionality of this build or the mentality behind it.

You should explain it in the original post, in my opinion. I cannot watch the vids at the moment, but putting your thoughts down on the original post would give us a clear perspective as to what you're doing.

Xvorg · December 2017

I3akerOfcakes wrote: »

I slaughter people with it

I slaughter people on a mageblade using 5 pieces of Way of Fire and 5 pieces Way of the Martial Knowledge (plus kena) with a 2H sword. And it doesn't mean I'm good or that my set up is good.

Defilted · December 2017

You seem to me to be a very good PVP player in general. At this point it is the time you have put in and the skill that you have acquired. I would think that any build you would have a positive video to share.

SmellyUnlimited · December 2017

I3akerOfcakes wrote: »

I've mained Stamina Nightblade for a couple years at this point and I have 125K + Alliance kills and I mostly run solo, with one other person, or a small group.]

You have 125,000+ Alliance kills?!

Juhasow · December 2017

I3akerOfcakes wrote: »

I slaughter people with it

Mostly because of experience and fact stamnb is currently one of the best builds for open world PvP not because of sets. Stam Nb basicly can play with over 20 set combinations and be effective as long he have incap fear and cloak on bars.

Thogard · December 2017

I almost never say this about nightblades, but I like this build and I like the play style you use with it. But yeah you’re probably getting rekt by miat’s

Trashs1 · December 2017

Thogard wrote: »

I almost never say this about nightblades, but I like this build and I like the play style you use with it. But yeah you’re probably getting rekt by miat’s

u are funny... what besides the gap closer gets spoiled by miats??

bow la and posion arrow not...

first the thing of ult dmg scaling, now the function of miats... no offence here but plz inforum ur self before u post half baked answers and sell them as widsom

thx

Thogard · December 2017

Trashs1 wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

I almost never say this about nightblades, but I like this build and I like the play style you use with it. But yeah you’re probably getting rekt by miat’s

u are funny... what besides the gap closer gets spoiled by miats??

bow la and posion arrow not...

first the thing of ult dmg scaling, now the function of miats... no offence here but plz inforum ur self before u post half baked answers and sell them as widsom

thx

Oh you know what I actually posted that in the wrong thread - I meant that about dduke’s bow/bow build that uses snipe.

My post was dumb and not intended for this build. I actually don’t like this build. Disregard previous post and pretend I wasn’t here.

I do like its choice of music though.

Izaki · December 2017

SmellyUnlimited wrote: »

Just not enough stamina/sustain.

2.4k unbuffed stamina recovery is more than enough (its about 2.7k when buffed with a pot). I play with 2.1k unbuffed and I sustain just fine, then again I have 1.2k magicka recovery as well, so I don't need much stam recovery at all, I could probably drop it even further.

I3akerOfcakes wrote: »

I've mained Stamina Nightblade for a couple years at this point and I have 125K + Alliance kills and I mostly run solo, with one other person, or a small group.

I understand that many people here do not understand the functionality of this build or the mentality behind it.

Everyone always just thinks about Stats, Stats, Stats, and they also think about them in the wrong way. Yes if you used the typical Bone Pirate, Agility, Master, Asylum, Monster you can achieve a lot of certain stats, and even better the stats you achieve are the ones every typical nightblade wants which is Weapon Damage, Max Stamina, Stamina Recovery.

Magicka Sustain is something stamblades overlook because they are so focused on pumping up the 3 basic stats they want. Bone Pirate setups because they use Dubious drinks have lots of Max stamina and stamina recovery however it has little magicka sustain. Magicka sustain = Stamina sustain, cloak and fear help your stamina sustain by buying you time to regain your stamina through recovery and siphoning attacks. Magicka sustain also greatly helps 1vX because you can constantly cause chaos with fear and disappear anytime, instead of the typical stamblade that just dodges a lot. Not only can I dodge a lot but I can Fear nonstop and nearly perma cloak if I need to.

All I want to get across is, try not to have tunnel vision when creating your builds. The best builds for open world 1vX are the builds that have a strong BALANCE of stats. The best builds for small group are the ones that have lots of UTILITY. And also the basic Bone Pirate setup is boring and overused. Be creative it makes the game more interesting

Most people know this ^^ At least I hope they do.

Most of the time when people use Dubious with Bone Pirate, the use Siphoning Attacks and not Leeching Strikes which takes care of your magicka sustain 1000%. I personally do full tri-glyphs and use a Mag/Stam Rec drink.

Or you could use Shacklebreaker which gives you just enough Max Magicka and Recovery (I have like 15K magicka with that setup).

I mean, the main thing your build is missing is the Master's Bow. Aside from that its fine. The Asylum weapon is by no means a must have, especially on a Stamblade with a very cheap ultimate. The damage Executionner does isn't THAT impressive and I'd rather have Relentless Focus on the front bar instead. But I prefer to have both so I just drop the gap closer.

Trashs1 · December 2017

Thogard wrote: »

Trashs1 wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

I almost never say this about nightblades, but I like this build and I like the play style you use with it. But yeah you’re probably getting rekt by miat’s

u are funny... what besides the gap closer gets spoiled by miats??

bow la and posion arrow not...

first the thing of ult dmg scaling, now the function of miats... no offence here but plz inforum ur self before u post half baked answers and sell them as widsom

thx

Oh you know what I actually posted that in the wrong thread - I meant that about dduke’s bow/bow build that uses snipe.

My post was dumb and not intended for this build. I actually don’t like this build. Disregard previous post and pretend I wasn’t here.

I do like its choice of music though.

sorry again, im normaly not that of a agressive ***

just had a bad start in my working day and saw this xD

Skinzz · December 2017

He's just a ganker. Runs when his opponent fights back. That's why his build is the way it is.

deepseamk20b14_ESO · December 2017

Pretty low damage but he is a decent player so it doesn’t really matter lol.

His sustain is more than fine though. Personally I’ve found I don’t need much Magicka Regen as I don’t need to spam cloak so I always have a cloak or fear up when needed. But to each their own.

Good video though.

SupremeRissole · December 2017

@I3akerOfcakes watching you're vids and getting smashed by you in IC made me build this stamblade. I'm still pretty weak on it but the sustain is really good. So much fun to play, I ran into you in Vivec not long ago and we didnt stand a chance against you guys, even after trying for about an hour hahaha.
I think I might move more towards your venomblade build and swap morag for hundings seeing as I dont work in well oiled teams yet. But cheers for getting me into pvp after being a strictly pve only person

I3akerOfcakes · March 2021

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